I think my teacher at Steiner (Waldorf) school 1976-1978.. was one of them

I know, I know, it seemed to be actual at the time (1998 and before) of the book around here (czech rep.) What is interesting, I have heard that strange eyes movement may mean that the person have been remotely taken in control or somebody messing with them.
I have always found very strange the eyes movement of our former president in the music video (named “president is gay”): at time 0:52

kek.

i don’t mind the “what if different races are truly different” style thinking. it’s a bit TOO verboten in a “don’t tread where nazi’s did” kinda way. neaderthals. cro magon. haplogroups. evolution itself. the kinda obvious monkeying with our DNA/up"jumping"

there are test tube babies and people who claim to be clones manufactured for use. there is debate on if they ARE ensouled (mostly cause to claim not is to allow “nonhuman” treatment and abuse - farming for parts etc).

all sorts of interesting avenues.

Thanks for sharing that, David. It sounds like you will remember this teacher on the basis of her heavy smacks for the rest of your life. (Perhaps more than whatever it was she taught you.)

This “thing” with schooling (which ignites poignant memories in anyone who has ever had a harsh teacher) is being used as a death card to try and take down Canada’s governance system, and replace it with the globalist one (i.e., “you’ll own nothing” ideology). If successful, it could be attempted in other countries.

The Indian Residential Schools are being used as the carefully-crafted launching pad to remove property rights from Canadians. Kids attending those schools undoubtedly had harsh teachers, like the one you describe in your own school. (A harsh Scottish teacher in my school beat me when I was 5 years old, for taking a drink at a water fountain without permission). And so, I don’t think that people attending Indian Residential Schools were the only people subjected to these harsh methods. All of us have suffered, in one way or another, from aspects of our schooling system (designed to turn us all into systems servants).

The proposed Canadian policies are grounded on an idea that because children were “murdered” (that idea being conjured by words like “genocide”, in which its original meaning is being changed by the Woke Political Community) at residential schools across Canada, as part of the colonization process, therefore “colonizers” don’t own Canada’s land, and so Canada’s land should now be ceded to people with Aboriginal ancestry.

Jim McMurtry (teacher) was fired when he told his students that teachers did not actually murder kids at residential schools (which was the impetus for the policies being rolled out in Canada right now, to remove property rights from Canadians). He said that the kids who died while in residence did so of diseases like tuberculosis, which was also killing kids in other communities as well. He didn’t believe the “murder” story, and has been speaking up about it. And quietly, the wording of the narrative has been changing (from “murder” to “died” and “missing”, but still insinuating “murder”), and it is an interesting story to follow, as it is so incredibly bizarre.

Dr. McMurtry is one of the brave souls speaking out about the “murder” card that has been used to play this story in Canada, and, in one interview, he and his host analyse the speech of one politician who has been quietly editing the narrative, in order to promote “hate speech” laws in which, if someone asks for proof of a claim that is being used to drive Canadian policy, the person should be jailed for “hate speech”.

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I never said not to act on inhuman behavior, absolutely we have to! With your own behavior you can condem yourself, but even if I wanted to, I can’t send another to hell or whatever your belief version is nor would I want to frankly.
Wrongthink, whatever that is, is used as being designated subhuman today and lawfare used to punish them. Classification of being an subhuman is far more used on people that don’t deserve it than to the mass murderous goverments strewn all over the world.

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Oh it wasn’t traumatic at all- she was just a “tight arse”, as goes the saying… She’s probably not a good example, but many other teachers I remember were… it’s just a feeling you get with some people- like they’ve gt a set program and can’t improvise…and you can hear their gears grinding as they try to formulate a “human” response… :laughing:

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… NO territory for the French.

… I would be interested in your argument as to how D Carlos Brown Jr., (just one example there are many others) the murderer of Arena Zerutska, or the others on the train who walked off of the train as she was bleeding out and doing nothing to help her or to apprehend Brown are not to be classed as subhuman.

I think that’s a fair way of thinking about the dangers of classifying “groups” on the basis of some common physical trait, and then applying some behaviour against them on that basis.

Where it gets more nuanced, is in terms of *behaviours or methodologies or technologies" that people learn (or are indoctrinated) to practice, that can be classified as subhuman.

Yes, indeed – I’ve also felt that way with some health professionals, or, most especially, politicians…

So, despite this teacher (who figures prominently in the title of your post), would you trade your experience at the Waldorf school?

(I used to have some notion that people who went to Waldorf schools were luckier than those of us who did not… Nowadays, I’m no longer completely sure what I think about the schooling system in general – on the one hand, we’re trained not to question anything; on the other, I’m thankful to read and write and do basic math, etc., and so, I can’t say I’m thankless even about the public schools I attended… even despite some of those gear-grinding teachers…)

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It was affordable and appropriate at the time- my father was teaching at the art college near by… By the mid to late seventies the schools were still relatively close to what Steiner intended, but of course with each successive generation it gets diluted- I’d say it was a pleasant and gentle start in “education”, where things came easily because they weren’t rushed or forced … a respite before being thrown into the inevitable “Sausage factory”- I didn’t stay in the school for too long, but for those that did it often confined them to a bit of a sheltered clique, somewhat unprepared for the culture shock of the workaday world… which is both a good, and a bad thing…

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Shocked? Really? I’m not.

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I think we are talking crossswired. People that behave inhuman exist. As a nurse I have seen first hand how people I thought were human behaved not so. During C period, if insted was asked to put the (socalled) infected in a gas oven and gass them, that would have happened!

I even know the price of speaking & acting out against it! Reported it to people in positions I thought I could trust, learned the hard way that is not so. When groups go awry, it is like a zombie movie, you get ripped apart if you are not willing to become like them!

Absolutely, everyone that still can should fight against it. I am not of the “other cheek kind”! None the less, I believe humans are taught to rip each other apart for about anything and see each other as inhuman and taught to ignore real inhumaness that happens directly under their noses like letting people bleed out in the streets and walking by!

I consider it my duty to defend humaness anyway I can, even thru war. What happens after their death and their soul gets weight, that I don’t consider my task.

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As someone once noted, should an individual actively seek power and/or to become a politician, then that alone should disqualify their candidacy. Think that was from a ancient Greek noteworthy, don’t recall now. Seeking power for its own sake, if highly egoic and most if not all who do will likely be very un-self-aware. If that’s a correct diction.

This ego quickly becomes self feeding and self preservation becomes first order business. Self preservation , when successful is self reinforcing and rapidly develops towards narcissism even where it did not initially exist in a pronounced way.

The next stage is, it would seem to me, that lying becomes “virtuous” and “existential” as conscience erodes under the weight of a self serving ego within in a power/narcissistic matrix/complex. This phenomenon can be empirically observed in many social domains, societal structures ( school, work, organisations) as well as in politics.

Beyond this point, lies sociopathy and weaponisation of the political system(s), as these move from being representational to manipulatory, controlling, dictatorial and tyrannical. This is often accompanied by accumulation of wealth, to be identified and access to flocking with the societal and transnational elites. It serves to provide insulation from return to the “herd” which the remainder of humanity becomes objectified and devalued, societally and transnationally. Think ingroup ang outgroups as during the scamdemic, financial corruption/collapse and wars for example.

It matters little, which ideology, cause or sloganeering is involved. Those operating from any aspect of the political system will always default to self preservation within a power/narcissistic matrix/complex. This is probably the best argument for term limits and numbers of terms.

That is the nature of the beast, but you were blessed in the USA to have had your founding fathers anticipate this beast within the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These instruments grew out of service to others strong values and at least from some form of self transcendence. Where the spirit of self transcendence is absent the soul/spirit or psyche of that individual, atrophies or actually dies. They literally become the “walking dead”, whom we, for our own wellbeing and value as humanity, with all the potential self transcendence that entails, must look to preserve, protect and nurture lest we end up in the same place via a different self serving route.

Nuff said , time for another coffee!! :laughing:

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Hayek said the same thing, and that the worst always get on top. Plato’s noble lie certainly comes into play, which is why the mainstream narrative always venerates Plato (one of the worst villains in history, in my opinion). And yes, our Constitution was drawn up to try to prevent this, but unfortunately, it hasn’t. As Butler Shaffer said, “The Constitution is the document that prevents the government from doing all the terrible things it does.” :slight_smile:

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Then there’s the “Philosophy is Plato with footnotes”. Ug.

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Bureaucracies love and develop secrecy and indeed secret societies to function free of accountability and scrutiny. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaJm_r4NzqU Perfect for psychopathy and sociopathy to thrive.

I think the corporate form is the structure providing elites, secret societies, politicians the freedom to take action without accountability. Bacon and Coke duked this out in Elizabethan courts and Coke’s vision of the corporate fiction won out over Bacon’s “real entity” vision of the guild. Coke and Plato are my two least favorite people from history.

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… I’m curious. What puts Plato on your least favorite list?

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I imagine Joseph could tell you what’s wrong with Plato…

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I wrote about his major faults regarding justice and music in The Next Octave, but I made a shorter video on him here, as well:

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