If true, this is the biggest political scandal in history

#21

No, just a certified, professional annalist, reporter, listener, watcher, and investigator of ‘stuff’ for 35+ years working [sort of indirectly for those who own almost everything]. Over 8,000 highly detailed reports, tens of thousands of interviews, observer of many things, and to date all of my reports have been error-free and acceptable.

Prather was an US Army Major, DEA agent, and is a unique induvial. Lots of folks do not care for his style, but that could be said about virtually anyone. Prather played a key role in stopping the flow of drugs into the US, and the illegal gun trade from the US into Mexico. Also worked in Panama, and a few South American countries. The nefarious Obama Justice Dept wanted to bring him into court on false charges, but he was able to deflect them, and never had to appear in a court of law.

Prather is unique, and a lot of folks do not care for his style, which is not a negative, or a bad thing because no one is universally loved. I do not actually care to join his ‘team’ either, but he does offer some unique viewpoints, as do a few other folks we follow here on this site.

An old owl sat in an oak,
The more he heard,
the less he spoke.
Now wasn’t that a wise ole bird?

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#22

I respected Prather enough to join his original group. He is someone that I totally respect and, as you suggest, I have more of a problem with the people with whom he trusted regionally to carry his vision here in TX. Like many who have risen in military rank, it is difficult to get his attention when things are not going to plan. I am afraid, like many who have moved out of this sphere, he called “hit the deck” a few too many times and I am still not clear if that was an error in judgment or part of the plan.

Jeffrey was an orphan from Cincinnati. I am from one of the next towns up. I have his books and tuned in to his ceremonies. Don’t need more information about him- know it all very well- I simply repeat, once a Fed, always a Fed.

And, yes, I get the owl message. There is no way that I advocate my change in status for others. It is something that each individual must study, become competent enough to make the personal decision to support the United States as a woman or man and not a legal fiction.

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#23

Yes, we have similar thoughts on the points you raised. My experience has led me to know, or at least suspect how things could easily go astray with the various regional leaders. As for a person’s legal status that is also a tenuous position since there also appears to be a problem with having an identity where there could be large, discernable gaps in the timeframe of that person’s history.

#24

“The original Constitution only applies to private men and women, not corporate fiction. We have all been fooled thinking that citizens have rights. Citizens are legal fiction.”

So, it seems to me that no one is now an actual private man or woman, i.e., a Citizen. So, in any legal court of law there will be no ‘citizens’ present, meaning the judge, bailiffs, jury, lawyers, advocate, accuser, journalists, or bystanders are not now citizens. Because as you wrote, “Citizens are legal fiction.”

#25

Private Law

http://www.hudok.info/files/8715/4829/6303/Private_Law_114-31_Dec_3_2016.pdf

This case provides a precedent for individuals declared through documentation as “natural persons”. The law is dependent on established definitions, see Black’s Law, for example. Each American State National operates in both the private and the public and have chosen to declare their separation between the public and private. This allows them to independently act in the private. Without legal declaration, Americans operate in the public only. The definition of citizen is public and by choice (you become one when you serve in office or any government , usually municipality). 14th Amendment. Precedent.

Prior to March 9, 1933 all Americans could act in the private under the Constitution of the United States FOR America. (United States OF America = corporate Constitution ) UNITED STATES, corporation vs united States of America.

It is ALL in the language and how it is presented. Look up every word used in the legal (Admiralty) system and you will be shocked.

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#26

Maybe this will help. Air Land Sea

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#27

… Well Justa what else can one say to that but WOW! … a suggestion for alternative currency? Heeee! :slight_smile: Seems that I recall quite a number of folks in history puttin’ their mug (pun intended?) on a coin or two.

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#28

While I have attained the State National status through a lengthy process of filing paperwork with everyone from the Executive branch to the representative to the Vatican in that 10square mile foreign land, I feel more like an investigative reporter on the subject at this point. So far there emerges two completely different approaches to the same end with a few highly suspect offshoots (I hope they know how to deal with Admiralty courts). Each group feels that the other group is doing something either wrong or incomplete and, worst, they keep their cards close to the chest as to the “problem”. Pretty much do it our way or the highway. These groups have existed for about 50 years but the success for reaching what is ultimately a sovereignty is about 10%. The number of people able to live in the private is considerably higher.

I originally heard about the movement on Crrow777radio.com and have also heard people discuss the principles on Higher Side Chats. YouTube is replete with versions, like the explanation by Bobby Lawrence given here. No doubt about the fact that this rabbit hole is VERY deep.

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#29

@justawhoaman ustawhoaman
This is an amazing find. Fascinating and completely hidden from view. Stunning revelation! Thank you.

#31

The Public/Private dilemma is, IMO, at the head of concern of The Texas Nationalist Movement. The prospect of having to give up virtually all federal assistance in every area of life is daunting; esp. after having paid into programs, etc. This might or might not be the case but is the assumption by many people.

I don’t know details; I’m a reader of general and major legislation. As stated above, it is a very deep rabbit hole and everyone is coming up with different answers. My very broad take is that the 2016 legislation changed some processes, then, there’s 2018 ratification of USMCA which likely changed processes again, although not directly stated in The Agreement. I obviously disagree with the last part of what Lawrence said.

Craig, of YT ForbiddTV, has been Private for a couple decades and he’s said it can be nightmarish if you’re not 100% committed to it and have a very thick skin. As goofy as Craig seems, he’s really very intelligent and also smart; a rare combination and one that few people like. No SS, no income taxes, no DL. He’s made lots of visits to jail for Driving w/o DL. Lots of appearances before local magistrates, who don’t understand Private (which he explains to them) and so forth. If you think what you’ve got to deal with now is tough, Private is tougher and there is no halfway in, halfway out. Keep in mind, this was before 2016.

The Private route might be best suited to those uncoupled, no children, no real property and self-employed. I’m not saying those with families can’t do it; I think it takes true balls in a family situation. The single, unattached entrepreneurial-minded wouldn’t hold the lives of others in their hands.

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#32

Dred Scott v. Sandford (1857)

The words “people of the United States” and “citizens” are synonymous terms, and mean the same thing. They both describe the political body who, according to our republican institutions, form the sovereignty, and who hold the power and conduct the Government through their representatives. They are what we familiarly call the “sovereign people,” and every citizen is one of this people and a constituent member of this sovereignty. The question before us is, whether the class of persons described in the plea in abatement compose a portion of this people, and are constituent members of this sovereignty?

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#34

And around and around we go…deception and perception go hand in hand.

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#35

You would need to seek alternative methods of achieving the status. I recognized that I paid into the public ME and am entitled to what I PAID IN- I am not entitled to BENEFITS for which I did not contribute. I am the agent for the ME so I am still entitled, as beneficiary, me (creditor), to what that public debtor (ME) contracted with the system unknowingly (fraudulently) at the timing of the signature on the birth certificate. Usually at least 7 days after the cord was cut and the occult ceremony was performed.

IT IS ABOUT THE CONTRACT. You want to separate yourself from the contract that your mother signed on the birth certificate from the private person who declares herself free from the fraud perpetrated at the time of the signing, from the moment of legitimacy (age 18) to now.

GOT too study the law.

If Craig had decided to be an AGENT for the fiction that owned the vehicle, he would have a DL for the fiction and thee cop would have walked away. It is called using the law. This movement is like a moving glacier and you have to stay on top of what works when you are dealing as private in the public. What worked X years ago doesn’t work now- the system is constantly trying to defeat NATURAL LAW.

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#36

Any recommendations for a book or books explaining how to do this in detail?

#37

That is a good question, @bluefalken. I will see what I can do to direct you to alternatives. Most of us started with Anna VonReitz.

As I noted earlier, I had heard testimony on Crrow777radio.com and then came across a YT character named Christopher Hauser. He had come on Crrow, too, but they later got a little skittish. Then after 2 years of achieving the necessary paperwork with K L from Crrow, save a few final steps, I came across David Straight and Bobby Lawrence. TOTALLY different approach. When I asked if I could work with them to combine what I had done, or at least compare/contrast, CRICKETS.

Despite that, I would probably suggest you join that group. They are willing to help new people and are being very successful networking state to state. They are bringing people to “the prize”.

Here is the deal. Once you elect to go private, you need to study very hard to understand what that means. We have been brainwashed into the chattel, PUBLIC, name and have never been asked to study civics. You have to understand the jurisdictions, understand the language and not be fooled by the system (the corporation) that conned your mother into signing. You have to be committed to the REPUBLIC, the pre-1933 (SS#) system when gold was the financial system, not worthless paper.

Most of all, you have to believe in yourself and believe in God’s natural law and reject the rest (even if you have to fight in their arena, their coliseum full of lions in black robes).

I forgot to add that if you want to really understand an alternative process that seems to work, you can check out SPC University. Hey, he will teach you how to stay out of jail AND get you a viable route to “the prize”. Helps if you enjoy the thrill of being able to think your way through these things. Probably the most dangerous route, but “Yusuf El” is the most generous in terms of information.

NO MATTER WHAT ROUTE, THERE IS NO FAST TRACK. Period.

#38

BTW, it was Lincoln, the first member of the British Accreditation Registry, BAR, to become President (boy, there is a story about election interference) that changed the united States to the corporate UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Some hero.

#39

That might be true of those under the Mormon’s influence. AKA - the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or one of the inhabitants of the Vatican, or one of their other holdings. If we were to type “Once a fed always a fed” into a good search engine it returns no results.
If anything, it appears Prather ‘divorced’ himself from the Feds when Barack Obama’s Justice system attempted to indict Prather for running guns across the border into Mexico. A false charge that Prather beat-back after spending about $70,000 defending himself.

Another defense would be the laughable assertion to say Dr Farell uses a process called Revelation of the Method in his writings. An analytical and methodological approach to explain his views and research of history, especially when religion and politics are the subject under study.

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#40

@justawhoaman For years I’ve been trying to get my birth certificate bond number so I could learn the value of my birth bond. I even went to the NY State office to get a copy of my original birth certificate but I didn’t see any special number listed there. How in the world do I get that darn number? and do you have a website that instructs where to go to learn the value of our birth bond? Thanks

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#41

Your birth certificate does have a number on it, usually starting with the year of your birth. Then you have a Social Security card with a SSN as well as a red number shown on the back. The number about which you are asking which identifies your bond is called a CUSIP. That number used to be easy to find but now is best found through a Series 7 broker. These numbers were created by the American Banking Association starting in 1964 and are the numbers used to access the funds to cancel debt. The USofA is bankrupt and these bonds are what funds the whole fraudulent mess.

@manhattan -I have been at this long enough now that I think I could write a treatise on all the people who think they have a clue. What amazes me is that they act like they have access to their minor estates and then charge a fortune for a conference or help in accomplishing steps in the process to freedom. The latest group that I have found that might help you is on Telegram: JarettRealtyInvestors. They have a .com website which you might find useful.