Lord have mercy, Lord have mercy, Lord have mercy. Again and again in peace let us pray to the Lord …
Precisely…liturgical prayers are the prayers OF THE CHURCH, not an individual setting himself up as the appointed Prayer Meister of the Day, ad-libbing all over the place (and usually aimlessly and poorly, and without any reverence). In short, liturgical prayer IS the Spirit-guided prayer of the Church.
I was thinking more of prescribed prayers for certain Feast Days etc. Certainly NOT the Lord’s prayer.
Those, too, are Spirit-led prayers of His Body.
What about the Rosary?
Is not the repetition of liturgical prayers, without any second thought, any intention, also unacceptable? It gets very drab and seems to mean little after a while.
@undine Great question!
Indeed, sometimes the best answer is NO. Even well meaning prayers can be amiss.
There are many rosaries across cultures which can lead to vanities of repetitions and errors in mind and heart. For me, your question rests on the doctrine of Holy Mary and the mindful and full hearted prayer that emerges from the illumined will. This will seeks the unitive wedding of the Holy Spirit love, within the body and soul of Holy Mary, to the Sacred Heart of Our Lord. It is a love story, where empty hearted love is not possible, nor empty minded words. When you love this way, there is no vanity. When you do not, there is only vanity. More later, Undine. Always a pleasure.
There is nothing one can say to you/whatever you are, because the question remains for you to wrestle. This is the fellowship of the mystery. God conceals and reveals to whom He wills. And excluding a brother from us is not acceptable.
I agree, thank you.
I believe humble and faithful prayer is aimed at God - the Highest. But, it doesn’t guarantee a preferred outcome.
There may be reasons for “unanswered” prayers – growth, the need for more awareness etc.
Being mostly ignorant re: Biblical dogma, I do know that His laws are finite. The evil ones probably “pray” to someone or something, and may want to think they’re doing good, but are they starting from a good place? Motivation…
Just my 2 cents worth…
I read it. Good answer. I don’t believe in being too careful if true results are needed. Might be just a matter of personality.
I feel the same way, and thank you so much for the great answer!
I feel so many people are having a relation to God like God was a vending machine or something.
I wish I could read the bible in its original biblical arameic and hebrew language.
There’s always double meanings and other things getting lost in translation, so i would assume it to be a powerful experience.
Have a nice day you
Two words: Strong’s Concordance
This is so true Undine, and a truth that is found repeatedly in most religions as well.
So, I prayed for peace, I prayed for all the common people like you and me, I prayed for civilians caught up in this horrific nightmare, then I came upon this:
And the Lord reminded me: Take a trip down memory lane and use your discernment
Perfect timing. I just found this very unique man who finally explains prayer to me in a way I can understand. I hope you will find peace in such an unusual place.
The Man With No Legal Identity - Off the Grid in Appalachia
Realising that God in His wisdom said NO because the outcome would have been bad, or because He had something better. Always thankful for His wisdom and love…
i like a lot of the Amish way of thinking,but it seems there is a lot of intrigue and drama in their communities too.
Which I guess is inevitable when you set up rules to shield the community from the surrounding world.
The basic ideas are all well and swell, but add islamic style limitations on ways of living and there you have it, Bavaria Woodstock.
Germanic hippies could only live like that I guess, too much freedom would ruin the fun.
But i like Titus, the tree swinging mennonite. Half Ted Kazcynski half Tarzan.