Originally published at: ABOUT THOSE 6,000 YEAR OLD COLUMBIAN SKELETONS...
One of my friends, D.S.G., spotted this story, and I suspect that if you’re like me, you need an occasional bog or story that has nothing to do with the meltdown of our civilization at the hands of our “leadership”. This story does, however, have a civilizational, and historiographical, implication. Indeed, the latter, as I…
The idea of intentionally venturing out onto the vast open sea in some sort of small canoe/raft etc, especially not knowing where you are going/if there is anything to go to seems beyond frightening. Blown off course during a storm, thousands of miles across the sea maybe fishing a bit to stay alive. How many times did that happen and they not survive? Why would a breeding population (women typically stayed at home) be out on the ocean like that?
MAYBE if there were ancient legends of a land far to the east?
Not disagreeing with the thesis, just speculating about the frightening journey.
The most famous version of this story comes from Spanish chroniclers. They reported that in the late 14th or early 15th century—before Columbus’s voyage—a canoe with “unknown” people, who looked different from Africans or Europeans, washed ashore on one of the Canary Islands (some versions specify Lanzarote or Fuerteventura).
The descriptions of these people often include details that, to modern readers, sound very much like indigenous Americans:
- They had a reddish or copper-toned skin.
- They spoke an unknown language.
- They had simple technology, like a wooden canoe or a primitive raft.
According to the story, they were captured and eventually assimilated into the local population. Some accounts say the last of them were still alive when the French explorer Jean de Béthencourt conquered the islands in the early 1400s.The story is recorded in several chronicles, which gives it some weight. It wasn’t just a single, vague rumor.
Witkowski’s hypothesis is sustained by the historical documents, the indians had excellent navigation skills. Also very diverse, even in the Caribbean the people in the islands looked different from one another and didn’t speak the same language.
Constant rewrites of history! Makes all the books of Alan Wilson & Baram Blackett so interesting. Today, do we have history & science? In this current black night the dark ages would blind us, to much blinding light we couldn’t absorb today!
Does it even matter, humanity has devolved so much the adagio of today is “might is right” and too many support it.
Yet another indicator that Darwin and the descent from primates is simply untrue and that are there parallel versions of humanity in play.
Or that other side of the coin, that all peoples are direct descendants of Noah and his sons , grandsons and so on and forth…
What about seafaring from Africa?
Thor Heyerdahl in his raft Kon Tiki proved that was possible decades ago.
I remember the television marketing given to the voyage of the Kon Tiki though the voyage was in 1947. His assertions about white man supremacy doesn’t sit well with thought leaders…
How is it white supremacy to prove that brown people were amazing navigators and explorers?
Anyone can concoct a theory or myth…getting believers is the trick of the trade. 
Yup… I was about to say that I must have missed that from Kon-Tiki when I had to read it in junior high school ( a term which dates me to that time before they started calling it “middle school.”) And “thought leaders”? whence this cacophony of diction? What’s wrong with the old terms intelligensia, intellectuals, scholars? I will never figure out why Americans are in a constant rush to change the terms for EVERYTHING… oh… wait… yea…I forgot… its obsession with Gnosticism and its endless linguistic agendas… signal your assent by using their (ever-changing) diction…
If the Vikings (and who knows who else) could get to North America, why couldn’t people from Asia or Africa get to South America? The stubborn clinging of quackademia to old pet theories, despite any possible contrary evidence, is mind-numbing . . . I struggled to understand that tendency for the longest time. Then it hit me: If history is proved not to be a continuous upward trajectory of technological and intellectual development, then the dogma of “progress,” and the entire edifice built upon it, is called into question. Can’t have that . . . Ergo, people 6,000 years ago couldn’t possibly have been capable of doing what people 1,000 years ago could do.
A “thought leader” does not necessarily fit into any of those categories. It has more to do with business acumen and change management. Wrong use in regard to the critical remarks for Kon-Tiki voyage.
Thought leaders are skilled at stepping away from current ways of thinking and doing things the traditional way, and coming up with new solutions to issues that arise.
I agree with your general premise but you must admit that hopping from Scandinavia to Iceland to Greenland to Labrador and points south is a bit easier than traversing the huge Pacific, even with stops along the way on the various small islands that dot it.
@knej6776 Yes, of course. Vikings wasn’t the best example I could have picked… Thor Heyerdahl would’ve been a better example, but he’s been mentioned already. There’s also the possibility (I think) of sailing up the East Asian coast, then down the North and South American coasts.
I’m betting, that not only did they navigate to the Americas, they probably could do the return trip as well. Nominal currents work like this
and the nominal wind patterns like this
. So betting they worked this out, or maybe had previous knowledge about the same.
The more I have studied evidence from the Andes, the more I have come to realise that anything that does not fit the Behring Strait hypothesis is not just overlooked it is being actively suppressed, and for a long time. This quotation is below from a paper entitled, The Punin Calvarium (Skull). It was written a century ago, by Sullivan and Hellman and can be downloaded from the archives of The American Museun of Natural History, The skull in question was found in Punin, Ecuador, which borders Colombia and northern Peru. It was discovered amongst the fossilised remains of late Ice Age megafauna, mainly American native horses, which became extinct more than 10,000 years ago. The authors state:
We believe that if the calvarium were presented to physical anthropologists, with no data or hints as to its origin, a majority of them would say that it was Australoid, or at least that the chances of duplicating it were infinitely greater in Australasia and Melanesia than in any other part of the world.
The authors then go onto note the similarity between this skull to the finds at Lagoa Santa in Brazil. There was another skull found at Lagoa Santa, which exhibited a similar morphology to that found at Punin. More recently, Brazilian anthropologist called Walter Neves dubbed this human skull Luzia - implying, of course, that it was the Lucy of the Americas. In his early professional life, Neves became the quackademics’ champion of a very early human occupation of South America from across the Pacific. He even spoke publicly about the how the skull morphologies of indigenous Patagonians resembled those of Australo-Melanesians. More recently, he’s changed his tune and Luiza’s skull was destroyed a few years ago when the museum where it was kept was burnt to the ground.
Geneticists do know that certain Amazonian tribes such as the Surui, Karitiana and the Xavante are related genetically to Austro-Melanesians. Most, however, do not want to upset the quackademic apple cart on which the consensus archaeologists are sitting, so they maintain that the ancestors of these peoples first entered the Americas via Behring, after having migrated during an Ice Age from all the way from South East Asia to the Arctic Circle. The hypothesis owes more to the overbearing nature of a character called Aleš Hrdlička (1869-1943) than it does to Wiliam of Occam’s proverbial shaving accoutrement.
For those who do not know, Hrdlička was a leading light in the Smithsonian Institute and Chair of the US Eugenics Society (need I say any more?). One Adolf Hitler was said to have admired his ideas. Apart from being a bully, he was also dogmatic and held that no humans ever had occupied the Americas before 4,000 years ago when the first crossed via Behring. Overwhelming evidence eventually forced Hrdlička to accept earlier and earlier dates, which was why quackademic archaeologists ended up promulgating the nonsense called Clovis First.
I would love to continue, especially about the ‘H’ blocks of Puma Punku, their magnetic anomalies and how they were probably a plasma physics technology. However, that would need an even longer explanation as to why some have been so keen to keep all of this covered up, and how the quackademics and politicians have done their bidding.
In the sixteenth century, the Spanish chronicler Pedro Sarmiento de Gamboa learned of the existence of a place we now call Australia from indigenous raft navigators in Callao, which is the port of Lima, Peru, even today.
Heyerdahl also crossed the Atlantic in his Ra Expedition, with a reed vessel. His first attempt was unsuccessful and it was only after he had enlisted the help of native boat builders from Lake Titikaka in the Andes that he was successful. You can see smaller versions of those boats even today, which are made from tortora reeds, if you are fortunate enough to visit Lake Titikaka.
Many thanks for posting this information!