Alexander Fraser Tytler, Lord Woodhouselee

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This was sent to me by a friend. I am not familiar with the quotation nor the supposed author. Thoughts?

“This text was popularized as part of a longer piece commenting on the 2000 U.S. presidential election, which began circulating on the Internet during or shortly after the election’s controversial conclusion.”

" A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.
The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to complacency; From complacency to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage."

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#2

I guess we should have stopped at Liberty.

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#3

Nothing has changed and the template is old as human history.

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#4

Why is it presented as a cycle that will occur? If we know we can do things differently, we being Mankind. Time for liberty!

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#5

Make sure you start at the beginning.

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Here is link to the book, Pandora’s Box by Alex Christopher, referenced in the video. Could not find one for sale anywhere except Amazon.
https://www.avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Alex%20Christopher%20-%20Pandora's%20Box%20-%20The%20Ultimate%20Unseen%20Hand%20Behind%20the%20New%20World%20Order.pdf

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Sometimes the survival instinct interrupts complacency. The green lefty term - ‘sustainable’ is a good concept in principle. It is hard to disrupt entrenched exploitation systems where a strong group is benefitting. I think that large organizations become ungovernable for a variety of reasons. Arranging the right size of government and the governed can address the above described cycle. This could be related to JPF’s references to anti-federalism.

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#8

Here’s a guy not too popular with the population reduction crowd. He and knowledge of his article on the nonsense of sustainable resource management was found while reading Herman Kahn’s 1976 book, The next 200 years. Kahn was pro growth and had no issues with increased world population. He consulted with the globalists but obviously his ideas were not adopted. He did warn that mismanagement, incompetence, bad luck and knowledge incapacity (highly educated folks unable to identify a problem and or provide a solution) would thwart his plan. Looks like the globalists took THAT advice to implement their plans.

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#9

I think that the goal of preventing a reduction in human well being is worthy. It seems that the disputes arise from how this goal is achieved.

I would like to see fish farming become more sustainable without reducing fish consumption in a growing population.

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I believe civilizations and empires – large structures – generally go through cycles of rise and fall, though I’m not sure the 200-year part is accurate. However, there may be counterexamples, especially among smaller countries that have not tried to expand geographically.

Along the lines of what @aurajenn said about the right size of government: Switzerland may be a counterexample to the rise-fall cycle. If so, it may be worth studying: Is it just geography and banksters that have kept the place going for so long? Or is there something about it being a small country that’s a confederacy with frequent local referendums?

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#12

So grateful for the video, so much information. Thanks for sharing.gratefully appreciated

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