Ahhh, thanks for clarifying the dermatologist issue. My bad.
I imagine your family has a great skincare routine with dermatologist tested products only. And nothing tested on animals other than your family cat.
I think you’re ready for youtube. Sans moles and double chins. I like nice tight skin on my influencers.
… see C.S. Peirce’s writings on Tychism - the idea that the Cosmos is evolving. .
and that absolute chance (indeterminism) is / are real objective operatives in the Cosmos.
In response to JPF - AI and The Dead internet I made five comments:
The question (of AI) is Natural v Unnatural it is not Natural v Artificial.
Spoiler Alert: the “Internet” was never “alive” and There is NO COMMUNICATION taking place via the “Internet”.
The “Internet” is “dead” because it is a system that is incapable of Semeiosis. No Semeiosis, No Life.
The “Internet”, like Modern Art and Modern Music, is full of nothing but DEAD SIGNS.
Look at how the “Internet” treats meaning-making for a HUGE CLUE to what is going on
Two of the five comments I wish to focus on here are:
The “Internet” is “dead” because it is a system that is incapable of Semeiosis. No Semeiosis, No Life.
The “Internet”, like Modern Art and Modern Music, is full of nothing but DEAD SIGNS.
AI was never and can not be “alive” In that it now contains and will only ever contain “dead signs”. Since the “internet” only contains “dead signs” it is incapable of Semeiosis. No Semeiosis, no Life.
What if it is the case that for Semeiosis to occur it requires that “Chance” be a real operative in the Cosmos? That it is this “Chance” (indeteterminateness) that provides what we as human beings call “Creativity”. Wasn’t Seldon’s goal (or at least one of them) to, for all practical purposes, eliminate Chance? In essence wasn’t Seldon attempting to realize a truly “Determinate Cosmos”? Wouldn’t this be a Cosmos with no opportunity for “Creation” and therefore no opportunity for Life?
There is a link below for Peirce’s article “The Doctrine of Necessity Examined”. I think it quite a nice piece with which to wade into a number of the the questions being addressed in this and other AI threads … One of those questions might be whether or not there could be, for lack of a better word, a “science” of “predicting” the irregularities of Chance.
Peirce wrote a series that appeared in The Monist in the early 1890s below are the titles in that series. .
“The Architecture of Theories”
“The Doctrine of Necessity Examined”
THE DOCTRINE OF NECESSITY EXAMINED : Peirce, Charles S. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
“The Law of Mind”
“Man’s Glassy Essence”
“Evolutionary Love”
I made an audio collage called Scifi Authors on Robots and A.I.
It does have Harlan Ellison doing voice acting for I Have No Mouth and Must Scream
https://www.podbean.com/ea/pb-jkayt-187178d
Ok, Excellent!!
This is my mantra and have been attempting to explain to posters that opinions, asertions and postulates are not evidence of thinking or appropriate way to discourse.
Especially, on a forum who the elder leader demonstrates inductive and deductive thinking, aka he shows his process, every week.
90% or more of what you read on the “internet” are postulates. Made by people who have not thought out the issue themselves but are totally reliant on authority
A full response to everything you posted is not possible until I review it.
While his assessment of men who postulate a presupposition and can’t defend it and won’t even try as evidence by most opinions I read, it dismisses that “Laws” All forms, Physical laws “Physics” natural law (again physics but not easily measureable by modern science) are part of creation.
Nothing can exist outside creation. All processes. Chemical, Physics, Biology, Your thinking, new inventions. Its what Emerson acknowledged and many others, The Final Kingdom. Creation is finished. He rested on the 7th day. He didn’t leave unfinished business.
It’s what all those books by Neville and the Secret People postulate, that all creation is finished and thus men do not create but rather bring themselves into resonance with what already is. That includes Asimov or any science fiction writer who saw the future before it existed in the current time line.
You’re purporting that creation isn’t complete. The finished kingdom purports that all is done but man has yet to become aware of all that is. And that’s all of us. New inventions are simply idea’s that pre-exist until man brings them into form.
For anybody to be able to articulate the future, like all those books I posted, demonstrates that a creation already exists that we’re not living or experiencing in the now. For if it didn’t exist, there is NO WAY those men would have been able to write the books. They would have not received the thoughts thru the imagination to be able to articulate what doesn’t exist. Therefore their work is in accordance with a higher law even if most man can’t articulate or defend their opinions/postulates. Which is the majority. Sad to say.
AI cannot draw from creation. It can only synthesize the information it is fed. In some area’s, it is a useful tool, but a poor master.
And if it is true and your semiosis theory is true, then we’re not at war with a sentient agent. We are only at war with the same forces we’ve always been at war with except who have an additional tool to fool the public.
Nonsense, like fake music, fake art, people putting up video’s of Trump dancing with Xi and Maduro for a laugh exists because there is a market for it. IN a free market, turn off that shat. Don’t put your attention on it and monetize that economy. Old principle.
People who write posts and scrape the internet for their content with perfect spelling of sanskrit terms. What are ya gonna do? Take an aspirin. You hope most see it and call it out.
AI not a threat as much as evil people using the tool to dupe an untrained public.
Also, the entire dialogue in Babylon Banksters regarding Dewey and Cycles pre-assumes the idea of a finished kingdom. Not even the banksters can alter destiny of the cycle. That’s why we have excellent documentation of how the past worked out and how the cycle told us before it’s arrival of the possible arrival of what you would forecast by using that cycle.
People would argue these facts ONLY if they hadn’t themselves inspected the evidence of the past.
…finished kingdom…or closed system of finance propped by closed system of physics as JPF is often mentioning in his books and talks.
I have two copies of Babylon Banksters. The legal kindle and the legal hardcopy which I purchased. Given Dr. Farrells dislike of electronic books and my desire for all copyright to be respected, I can quote the relevant passages, footnoting chapter, not page. As my hard copy is in a box.
Y’all smart enough to know where to the buy book.
But I’ll summarize in my own words as I do this everyday of my life during the trading week.
The priestcraft, the elite, the hedge funds, the high speed algo’s, AI bots programmed to trade against the normies can NOT alter the cycle. That is NOT a believe. That is a fact of the tape.
That means the market or the economy reached it’s goal what could have and was predicted years before.
Both quotes from Chapter 2, “Hoovers Hidden Legacy and Gifts” Section B…“The Inevitability and Predictability of Cycles”
There is another implication to Dewey’s and Dakin’s analysis, and indeed, to the work of the Foundation for the Study of Cycles as a whole. It is an implication already encountered, but it is best to restate it here: if cycles — particularly economic cycles — are of regular and quantifiable periodicity, then this implies that they are inevitable, and because inevitable, predictable. This in turn would seem to limit the scope of human action and its ability to influence such cycles merely to affecting trends, rather than the cycles themselves.
whatever the trends the respective governmental policies in each nation might have induced, the overall cycle itself was destined to turn precisely when it did, regardless of governmental policy or political action. Financial policy could amplify or damp the overall trend within a cycle, but could never arrest or reverse the cycle itself. And the reason is again clear: the cycle itself was evidence of a deep physics being played out on the stage of aggregate human activity.
How is it possible to exert yield curve “control” in the environment that we’re living through but was outlined to perfection in 1984?
1985-2030 rate projection in red.
It arrived at the appointed time despite the thousands of articles on posts on manipulation. And the man does paint the tape and uses the news to suck unsuspecting traders in and out and to carry out their accumulation or distribution.
This idea alone that the market reaches it’s destination at a pre-destined time and the records that we have that show this, one chart above, is above the average man’s keel.
Because it is natural law and our political structure and culture has collective amnesia and your a nut job with idiosyncratic thinking to mention it. Hell, you might be a libertarian and think strange thoughts. For the rest it is a passing thought, or maybe an annoyance, that doesn’t cut through the noise of the latest news story of the day.
Every man who has written a treastise on Power from Machiavelli to Robert Green and one that is out of print “Power” by (forgot the author who worked in the FDR administration) will tell you that Power is temporary and illusion to the power holder.
Zeus only controls the men on the chessboard for a time. He cannot control the outcome. John STeinbeck taught us that too. Mouse and Men.
Given we have so much data to validate this theory, it is no longer theory. It is reality. That means any system of thought, philosophy, logic which can’t account for it’s presence is lacking in it’s understanding of how reality works.
The market, the economy, and the politics of the nation are on a time clock which is invisible to the masses of people. Their lack of interest in how that clock works doesn’t stop it from ticking and effecting the outcome when all the tumblers tick into place.
Dr. Farrell calls it deep physics. This is the natural law that our founders studied but has been lost. Jefferson referred to it when he invoked the 19 year cycle of the Constitution. The metonic cycle.
Cycles incorporate the duality of good and evil. Closed system refers to manipulation. Not the cycle.
It’s a rather simple concept but is not intuitive or natural to most. They give man and authority too much credit.
To date, there is no evidence that anyone has succeeded in collapsing the wave function of these cycles although Dr. Farrell published an article in physics.org many years ago stating they were trying.
Some of you have been around forever. Ring a bell?
BTW, you learn very quickly if you’re a trader if your philosophy has merit. Because if it’s off, the algo’s will rape you and take everything you own. No better form of self honesty and testing of your theories. Than real life.
