It was worth the two hours and it was more like a radio show; wasn’t locked down in front of the screen.
https://rumble.com/v7990kg-jfanon-sapioplex-patrick-ramboaf-367-2pm-edt.html?e9s=src_v1_cmd%2Csrc_v1_upp_a
Especially SAPIOPLEX, he always has some interesting and curious info.