An ApoloGiza to JPF

the reality is that nowadays Youth will accept to listen to classics only if they are under punishment!, count me in this category too when as Kid would be sentenced to my room without tv and just radio on which in 80’s titoslavia [1] classics were main dish on the menu!, maybe thats why such buried resignation about in my hearth!?, definitely no, simply as very young was straight aware about the neopagan niche, and surrounded by Traditional Music and Orthodox Christianity simply couldnt resonate with it fulheartedly, but I find very amazing whatever classical crossover with modern musical genres, and that would be also appealing for students in secondary education where balanced approach like this would be ace [2] while so would learn something more regards music as creative Art learning process, it should be introduced in the primary education curriculum where vast amount of subjects could be learned through collaborative musical styles, in the process also by learning various instruments, instead having just some basic experience of instruments and musicizing, usually from the music class with toy xylophones and harmonicas and/or mandolins … I went even on part’time musical section, but coz too poor to get mandolin, I went with my souvenir balalaika, finally we needed to drag our instruments with us, instead the school to have free for all, and normally I’ve drop out quickly, yep public school You guess correctly!

the same could be said regards the traditional music as ethno mixed approach, while the e’c’m as harmonics esperanto could be also incorporated in such ethno glitches which sound pretty good [3] wanted or not I dont see other way Kids to get at least somehow educated about eg. rhapsodies or other classical genres, coz indeed the current trends are bit empty or at best shallow regards history of music if not else [4] but even then (if many get buzzed) still the variations will be issue [5][5][6][6] even more when someone will need to chase opera knowhow [7][7] and how earlier quacking was typical for the swOns [7] yeah go catch the sympathy around the 7th minute in the past footnote!, or maybe good learning variable would be repackaging of old pieces [8][8] and like that greater interest for e’c’m!?

also music for film could be good motivation, but who to reinvent the curriculum accordingly!?, as I am parroting for that ideally would be every school or district to have constant eForum debate if the law allows decentralized tweaking of the methodologies of tutoring and experimenting for greater acceptance of the material … some interesting holiday movies along that could get You thinking would be mexican [[u]9] and avalon [10] finally a.i. would act like jukebox show in future and remixing whatever classics someone would click on wiki [11] the question is would like that anyone get experienced through gains without pains!?

at last local epic tails could be motivation too [12] but also superstitious one [13] normally historic loops also [14] finally education should be long lasting experience so composers should think in various versions of same piece so would leave greater impact, if not else in traditional style for kids in etho crossover for middleagers and classical version for elder, or vice versa!, like that awaking continual emphasis on some important messages or quotes that could uplift the spirit of the listener pointing to the life cycle and the need for focus towards next level higher realms where one cant enter if dont calm down own fears so would escape the gravity of this world with easy flow … and probably if this becomes schooling trend anyhow, surely many will mix political vibe too, what also could prove useful but ideally as sampling in arias [15] but think musical or opera blockbusters like the 2019 adaptation of the chinese legend about the white dragon would be most remembered [[u]16][16]-[16][16] nice vfx atmosphere lack only more vivid plant colors [17] but the tale for my taste is bit slimy, waiting to see when modern western neopagan mythology will show itself in similar manner [18-333]

Usually when posting on a forum, that is, an area made for discussion, you post something to provoke questioning, thought and conversation. You don’t plop ramblings one after the other.
It is disrespectful , and the only reason I am replying to you is to ask you why you feel you couldn’t blog on your own computer instead of in a public forum?

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Respect!, I’ve said to myself this would be my last row of posts, for me this next week should be silent, due to OC Nativity Feast, yet marphy rulz on west :slight_smile: and me as guest there, it woudlnt be polite not to respond …

its called forum blogging!, in essence exploring some topic, while waiting others to catch in and share some own thoughts, what can happen after year or so … the very point of this e-tool is exactly that, maybe someone will refute some logic, others will surely analyze, etc., unless what matters is piling thread after thread for every separate post, doable but if there are dedicated subforums eg. solely about esotericism in western classical music, if we tend clarity and viewability to be case!, some etool inbetween soc.nets and eforums is discord platform, maybe there I’ll navigate more loosely with my points, but opening blog would be debacle for me simply coz I am not expert on the topics I am tackling, but need exactly someone to challenge my reasoning, thus I am rolling as I roll … now probably I am annoying how stroll alone, but until I dont brake particular forum rule, and I am not sentenced or suspended and/or banned by the administrator or the moderators, dont see why I should move elsewhere …

btw, sorry for my moralizing, but You could open some ontopic thread instead to hijack this one!, if want to respond its better to quote this post and we can continue chitchatting there … HNY my coforummer :smiley:

… Lord Save The Children In Gaza … and Have Mercy For All That Suffer There …
[1] https://vimeo.com/ondemand/zipper [1]

so would not become depre thread, for the gregorian new years eve, I’ll greet JPF with question, did he ever make showcase of his bookshelves alike [1] in the vidchats!?, what about the cellar shelves with lp’s, maybe he could pull some harp pieces :smiley: coz we will learn till we fly away …

in context of EricD post in OnPhysics thread [1] its good to share his reasoning about classical music here too …

~ https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Eric+P+Dollard+Music

when listening to EricD explication of organs as something explosive …

and the physical feeling of being in the churches when these things are running in full power is beyond description, typically when all the planets are lined up scares the organists, the whole church sounds like it’s going to come apart, they’re all going to start to lose control, the whole thing gets wrapped up into the cosmic events, and just goes wild, and it leaves the audience in complete shock, thousands of people just like stunned in shock [1]

… future’shock’docu comes to mind but in medieval packaging [2] what would be interesting for comparison, coz think as instrument is infiltrated in the cathedrals, its the notion, Is that Christian Vibe?, i.e. to be loud mids the Church Ceremony!?, hm, but here he was talking about secular music altho in sacral building, so maybe not comparable as quote!, yet as instrument per’se sponsored and placed by consent of cardinals, we can say at least they’ve made mistake like that, why, simply coz one biblical proverb “But the Lord is in the voice of a gentle breeze (3 Kg. 19:12)” [3] or “closely to the experience of the Prophet Elias in a “still, small voice”, or “a sound of a gentle breeze” in 3 Kingdoms 19:12” [4] or i.e. our Almighty Lord is not torment for the ears but Calmness for the Hearth, compare that with the acapella chanting in the Orthodox Christianity, aside all phantasmagoric plays of composers that want yeah to open on small door maybe passage to other reality, but where, in their minds for granted, ecstasy of christian aporia to reach salvation through arts&sciences even on the church ceremonies, when and where, yeah we dont need to wonder what can go wrong if phantasies hijack the nous while praying!?

now not that I have anything against organs, but as church vibe is not understandable for me!, luckily infiltrated only in western part of the Christendom [5] and most probably due the particular neopagan infiltration among the prevalent church elite, actually the more influential mediveal roman bankster families were delegating own pawns as popes that were shaped by secular than monastic upbringing at least with all the poisoning mids vatican only that could be explanation [6] and finally probably bacon borrow the term “new organ” as allusion for mechanistic heaven’on’earth [7] maybe the next level would be androgen one [7] i.e. its not problem the harmony, beauty is given as call towards eternity, but in dimension plain sky world (whoever how who wants) that is not lasting but at best cyclic, here to expect to be established heaven’on’earth that is ridiculous!, the idea behind all neopagan momentum of the western medieval and modern thought!, altho this dont means beauty as harmonious life in this world cant be chased, but that to be forced standard eventually leads to coldness of the hearth!, and whats left are only passions due to habit, when some of some emotions will be awakened by memory, yep upuntil the hearth is stormed by some delusion when its not enough anymore harmonious music as food for the soul but distorted electrified and weird one, stravinski comes to mind, so it would had have been ideal if organum stayed sacral vibe maybe but with its secularisation ended up in low’tech’electrification [8] as if indeed someone wanted to be forever young in this world [9] yeah to listen organs in hypnotic mode [10][10]

can the secular become spiritual, surely, the intention in given message can do that, for what even remembrance is enough, so we would move our Free Will [1] towards better future of Love Peace and Salvation, so stop living in fears or project uncertainty [2] but accept that we need to be Faithful and lean our hope to Our Almighty Lord Jesus Christ thus do Pray For Deliverance as personal so as collective one, as Christian we should find Mercy somehow so would receive Mercy From Above coz not all migrants are scum [3] be humble give a hand for understanding even with pagans and neopagans, after all not all of them are blind followers of their traditions, nor per’se they are evil if strayed from the True Path!, but we have per’se problem with elites that bow to powers&principalities which cant be anyhow decimated and casted out than through invoking extra Grace upon this world, so do give a Prayer For Peace from weak to weak if not every day, at least for All those Children that are suffering, coz whatever evil causality strikes us is exactly due to our forgetfulness for those in need those we’ve forgot and left to suffer!, Happiness Calmness and Belongingness indeed come through Grace so if dont know or cant Pray sing sing sing Give Peace a Chance [4][4] dont allow Children to suffer!

Merry Christmas To All Orthodox Christians … Health Peace and Salvation To Grant Our Almighty Lord Jesus Christ To All That Seeks Him and You Will Harness True Love if attend on Liturgies living Consecrated Prayerful Life (otherwise if You dont have will even to try to chant then the harnessing and granting goes bit slower while surely You dont have extra free time to regularly go on Liturgical Ceremonies…

interestingly its rare to be found Nativity Suits by russian composers or I am wrong!?, there is in context of Resurrection an Cherubim Hymn [1][2] only Korsakov made some but pagan effort coz the next suite “is a satirical-realistic depiction of Ukrainian village life combined with fantastic and mythological elements … Rimsky-Korsakov himself wrote the libretto based on Gogol’s story of the same name. As an avowed pantheist, the composer saw nature as an image of the divine - and thus as something absolutely worth preserving.” [3][3] so another now festive acclamation that by default in romantism (in my belief earlier too) that e’c’m (european’clasical’music) was heavily infestated by the enlightenment hype of the era, as if indeed there was cultural subversive agitprop for conditioning of the masses on some sublime elite level through composers i.e. maybe “someone” was hijacking them through cultural funding!?, imagine tomorrow someone to hijack Your Kids through Charter Education [4] thats why all need to be on open air, at least some Breeze can blow away all wrong smells if not the pagan or neopagan fog, say what …