An Unnatural Order: The Roots of Our Destruction of Nature(Fully Revised and Updated) March 23, 2021 by Jim Mason

Sunnyboy,
Belated Thanks
Was just catching up on some old posts;
when I came across this book you recommended. Just ordered it!
Reminded me of an old non-fiction book: Against the Grain.
Now out of print, and search engine - persona non grata.
Went totally against the accepted globalist history of agriculture.

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Thanks for your little poem, and book recommendation as well - you mean James C. Scott’s book?

I’d love to know what you think of Mason’s book (if you read it), which is based on “conventionally taught” history.

While Mason is sincere in his advocacy for animals, I do have “mixed feelings” about some of his ideas (and I imagine that you will as well). On the one hand, I appreciate his ideas on how animals were historically “de-souled” in order for them to be commodified and exploited (given that this seems to be against natural instincts of many humans). On the other hand, he does have a few ideas that have been shaped by globalists (who have infiltrated animal advocacy and other social justice movements) which irritate me.

Like many other animal advocates, Mason now seems to be promoting the climate change and pandemic narratives to support his ideas – and to me, it’s like mixing apples with monkey wrenches. These ideas simply don’t belong lumped together, although I have wondered whether globalist organizations may have engineered the pushing of these things together, knowing full well the divisions and fighting distractions that will create so that no one will ever really talk about the original issue: what was the de-souling of animals really about historically? What was that about? And is that related to how we humans are currently being farmed and “managed”?

One of Mason’s ideas that does not resonate with me is his idea that the feminist movement (which he thinks is an important supportive movement for animal advocacy) champions “women’s rights” – and that there is something somehow wrong for a woman to attend to family life. What would be so very “unnatural” for a woman to want to keep a clean home and prepare home-cooked meals for her family? The feminists have pushed their anti-maternal ideas so far that some women who listen to their ideas have become less bound to the maternal instinct to nurture and care for their families! Instead of health-promoting foods, they offer junk food to their kids, as well as junk media that does a number on kids’ minds. (Such ideas from feminist movement keep cropping up in animal advocacy discussions, perhaps by design, and I find them distracting.)

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I do like those that goes against the grain.
And this looks like one of those.
Can’t wait to get into it; as I really don’t find too many - that pan out.

I also find authors that are very savvy in some areas; then fall - hook, line, and sinker - for the CO2 hoax; the fossil fuel hoax, and others.
Rarely, do you find a Dr. Joseph P. Farrell, that hits them all out of the park.
One author that really surprised me was Michael Crichton. I read his first book, The Andromeda Strain, and it floored me. He continued to switch gears; always hitting it out of the park. Long story short; he went on the Charlie Rose Show, speaking out against climate change, and other propaganda sacred cows. Took a lot of heat, but stood firm on what the real science is.
I have one of those rare women too; who keep a clean home; prepares home cooked meals for all, and is a devout Christian.

So yes, the book will probably get here the first week in May.
I’ll post here on what I discover.

Thanks again for the tip.
I’m a reader, and against the grain books - are hard to come by.

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Going “against the grain” is something that has been happening since 2009, but, for some reason, we Normies are not supposed to know about it! Our Twin Solar System has been sliding through causing all kinds of weird weather & odd occurrences!! Remember the herd of reindeer that was electrocuted or all the “rain dumps” of months of rain in a few hours?! Its 8 planets have been filling our skies as they pass by, but we thought it WAS our sky!!! :rofl: When we have the upward lightning that is our repelling the other planet so we do not collide!! :astonished: Check out the SAMUEL HOFMAN interview on Radio Wasteland or go to Montana Skywatcher for some photos of said planets!! :wink:

Us, too, we like authors/thinking that go against the grain.

We are so far against the grain, that we can barely have conversations with anyone without touching hot points: In Canada, you can’t talk about “Trump” unless you’re bashing the man. You can’t talk about chemtrails or climate, you can’t talk about injections, you can’t talk about animals, and you can’t talk about any of the woke crap – without “the grain” parrotting “conspiracy theorist” or “dissident” at you. Conversations with “the grain” are shallow and superficial at best, given all the topics you can’t talk about.

Like yourself, we love reading “against the grain” authors to get some other thinking besides what “the grain” likes to parrot about. I have enjoyed reading what people think about the animal question, but do have to wade through some woke stuff as well, as I think that the Universities somehow got their talons into the question, and you see that reflected in many books. It is interesting to analyse, though, in terms of how a movement gets taken down, and most people have no idea what can happen to their minds at universities (unless they’ve been well prepared for that earlier in life).

I’ll be interested in what you think of some of Mason’s ideas, and also if you bump up against some that you find irritating. I don’t think he went far enough, though, in exploring what is behind the animal question – for that, my guess is that he’s got to go much deeper, into other realms.

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My wife has a hard time with my contrary thinking.
Consequently, I’ve had to “lay back” when we get together with family.
When 9/11 happened; I was telling all - “inside job”.
Long story short; over the years I’ve toned it down,
when I’m in her “public” presence.
She tried very hard to understand “real” economy, but couldn’t grasp it.
So I just let it go; so we could enjoy the many other aspects of life together.
I watch her shows, like Wheel of Fortune, Antiques Roadshow", etc.,
and we make “our own games” - like guessing the prices of the antiques.
It’s very hard for me to bite my tongue; as I can easily see the social engineering taking place,
in all these shows[especially, the game shows].
All that to say; that many people can’t wrap their heads around the evil that; unfortunately exist,
to a greater degree - than most people realize.
Although, I found an “uptick” in awareness - over the years. Sadly, I think its because

  • there’s been a commensurate[if not greater] uptick in evil.

If you haven’t checked out author: F. William Engdahl - do so.
In sync with against the grain, is his: Myths, Lies, and Oil Wars - July 1 2011.
A great place to start; as all his books go against the grain.
But Myths, takes on a Big One: fossil fuel.

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Thanks for the book tip, and also your comments about Crichton’s book as well. We read a few of Crichton’s books in past years, and at the time thought it was all fiction (before a friend awakened us to the covid business, after which we started reading Dr. Farrell’s books – and now, talk about disillusioned or what).

From what you’ve shared about your good wife, two things come to mind:

  1. You are very fortunate in that your wife seems to have a solid focus on home, and that is very grounding. (As long as you can stand firm about not getting shots.)
  2. You are also fortunate that you found the Giza Forum, to share ideas/thoughts that you have difficulty in communicating with your wife, as it sounds like your intellectual journeys are somewhat different. I like how you watch a few shows with her, even though you process the content very differently. We know some people who have a journey with their spouses in which intellectual interests are different (beyong the “Mars”-“Venus” thing), and who have found ways to make it work. It is great that you have done this as well.

At any rate, we on the forum do appreciate your “against the grain” thoughts.

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