Andrei Martyanov On How Long It Will Take Europe To Recover? How Russia Was Able To Keep The Values?

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Europe is as dead as a dodo, it’s most of the population that hasn’t caught up with it yet. Seems propaganda is promoting “how wonderful providing only services is going to be”. I think every economist promoting this on behalf of ???, should be hanged for treason.

So, if it can’t restore the blown up relations with it’s neighbor Russia, which the EU has done so thorough , depopulation will occur thru hunger, emigration ect. More likely the EU will fall apart together with the demise of the euro and chaos will ensue. With no resources and energy whatsoever, ingenuity and know how counts for nothing.

The only thing I hope for is that when the braindrain occurs, it will be anywhere but the USA, that can only prolong the surviability of the neocons in scooping up all knowledge in a European paperclip 2! That should be avoided at all costs.

My suspicion is that the traditionally-minded of the brain population that can afford to do so will emigrate to Russia.

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Sorry guys, Alex and Alexander, nice chat, but zero any statistics or graphs. I take Peter Zeihan any day (even thou I am worried for his mental health, five boosters and counting :scream:) with his rationale and hard-core data.

Being kind of proud and comparing current Kremlin regime with Stalin says everything one need to know about this conversation. ( it refers to original post by @peter.s.james

So far dr. Farrell there have been 4M outflow of people from Russia. Mostly young and educated. This does not bode well for the future of that country.
Nearly 4M Russians Left Russia in Early 2022 – FSB - The Moscow Times

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Yikes… it certainly does not… but one wonders where they’re going. If to here, they might want to rethink that

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And starting to do so, alreвdy.

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Peter is easy to follow if you are fed military “statistics” (I have military family who think he is spot on) but I have outside information that makes me VERY skeptical. Not saying he is wrong, just not jumping on the cart.

2 friends who used to work Sakhalin Island say it is TRUE that youngsters are leaving as fast as they can; not running, unless they have a decent outlook. I don’t know the numbers. My friend from Poland says lots moving through those borders.

Russia canNOT lose this “war”. They just cannot and I think everyone knows it. If Russia loses, they are done as a people.

And that’s the prevailing propaganda that Russians are being fed for centuries. If they are not empire, they die. Who says so? They have been taken for the ride since Ivan the Terrible, first by Muscovy Company minions’ courtesy of John Dee and Richard Chancellor, later only replaced by Prussian money and their princess Catherine and were almost finished by NYC banksters during Bolshevik revolution. I hope and I pray that they finally realize and grow up to the concept of freedom individual and collective which is a God given right to all man in the world.

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Their demographics say this is true. If they lose enough men in the population and cannot keep the birth rate at least where it is at present, it’s over. Most are writing them off now. I am not writing them off yet.

Actually this appears to be a more or less wide spread phenomenon, not just Russia.

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Wonder how many of those folks who are leaving Russia were followers of ‘P-u-s-s-y Riot’, or other groups similar to them?

Ha! I wonder the same…

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There is one immutable fact, which is men and women will always ‘come’ together.

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That doesn’t hold the promise of procreation anymore and if you don’t have sufficient numbers to begin with, the society never recovers. Ask Egypt, Greece, Rome, etc.

I do believe that if Russia goes down, they will do so fighting.

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Poland, for one. My friends there say they’re being overrun.
And out of the cities for young Russian men. Some chose Belarus and why, I don’t know. Right into the war.

No QVBB, The Russians will be done. It doesn’t matter what they’re ‘fed’. This time, for real.