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Yes, good interview. Saw it a few hours after publication.
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watched/listen to it, good one, worth it.
I love Hancock a lot, got his book Fingerprints of the Gods for a birthday. That where his micro āCosmic Warā started against the established narrative of history/science. Talks about it. Great guy!
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Great Start!
Eventually fades toā¦
Missionary positions.
Albeit, with some surprizingly interesting subject matters, and keen insghts.
[Hard for me to stomach the narrator.]
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ā¦just fast forward>>>
Graham Hancocksā Hypothesis
~12,800 years ago (~10,800 BC) ā the onset. In Magicians of the Gods (2015) and America Before (2019), he adopts the Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis: fragments of a disintegrating comet striking the North American ice sheet, triggering the abrupt deep-freeze, megafaunal extinctions, and the destruction of his proposed lost civilization. This is his main cataclysm date in the recent books.
Platosā writingsā¦
~11,600 years ago (~9600 BC) ā the finale. The abrupt end of the Younger Dryas, with dramatic warming and Meltwater Pulse 1B flooding coastlines worldwide. Hancock makes a point of the fact that this lands precisely on Platoās 9,000-years-before-Solon date ā he treats that correspondence as evidence Plato was transmitting a genuine memory of real flooding rather than inventing a fable. He also leans on Gƶbekli Tepeās ~9600 BC horizon as the āsurvivors transmitting knowledgeā moment.
Will you hate me if long time if I debunk Hancocksā dating? It would be my second debunk in a week?
Plato wasnāt reckoning time with the Julian or Gregorian calendar. He was counting lunar years. Not solar years. That brings the destruction to 1200 bc. The fall of the Bronze Age. YUGE difference in time.
The Priestcraft was a live and well and as evil as they are today. But thatās for another day. The same depopulation agenda of the Priestcraft today was alive and well back in Atlantis. When you could no longer work or serve society, contribute to production, they put people to sleep.
DaveNY, How do you know such a thing? Besides people being hypnotized in past life regression and having these memories (I just offended again), it is in other literature.
Ok, so you have advanced weapons, advanced technology, advance energy producing technology, but if youāre evil are you truly more advanced?
Frank Joseph was author of Ancient Amer
And his theory of how it all went down? There is better. Heās not the only expert on the subject. Just the one people seem to gravitate too. Not sure why? Good marketing?
Frank Joseph was the author of Ancient America. Used to be a popular newsletter and he has published many books. if you decide to look into him and his writings and you discover that he belonged to the Nazi party and therefore dismiss his work. That wouldnāt be a smart thing to do. He actually has facts in his books. Archeological, good research etcā¦ Forget the man, itās the message. Like my rant about picking good presidents. Sure that went down well.
Christopher Columbus wasnāt the first to discover America. He was the last. Lies, lies and more lies. Which is vastly different than the liberals who want to cancel Columbus. I donāt. He was a clever man. Why do I care what people celebrate? I do care that true history has been scrubbed and it takes a bit of work to get to the bottom of it all.
The pyramid network will come alive when somebody finds the capstone and puts it back on Giza. I donāt want to be around when that happens. Either do you.
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They all werenāt using sacred plants, and shrooms to get enlightened. They had other technologies before they drank the sacred Soma. Too many people going to Peru to get their Ayhuasca on and puking rather than learning the real ancient ways. Lies, lies and more lies.
I think I need a small shot of Scotchie.
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Interesting thread, please continue? If youāve read all of the books above, would it be possible to provide a synopsis of each, or even where the authors may have converged with similar theories? Finally, what ran true for you? E.g. what facts and findings did Frank Joseph present?
Wondering could the āSeven Years in Tibetā Film be just another Hollywood gloss story for the gullible masses?
Who and what is the purpose of the āpyramid networkā exactly? Why in particular is putting on the capstone so important?
I think the sacred plants may have had a lot to do with itā¦ How knowledge just seemed to āappearā when we are expected to believe we just evolved from a bunch of Neanderthals.
Cannabis and frankincense discovered in the āHoly of Holiesā altar at Tel Arad.
Interestingly Iāve also been told that Ayahuasca and Cannabis donāt mix/donāt get on.
When visiting the British Museum I had the question was this guy just swinging around a bunch of radishes, orā¦?
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I read all those books and thus I was able to share passages that were relevant to point out some of Hancockās errors in thinking. I also included the passage of the long list of researchers that came to the same conclusions.
It would be poor form to quote and recommend books I didnāt read or vet myself. They came highly recommended to me and I offer them as recommendations as alternative reading to Hancock.
They contain rigorous research and offer resources from documented history, Egypt, Roman, Greek researchers in this field and dialectical discourse supporting conclusions.
There is no dirth of literature the last 500 years on this subject which begs the question has Hancock ever kept up with the research or would it threaten his best selling book status if he was to update his theories?
As far as the purpose of the Pyramid grid and Giza and the famous captsone, (also discussed in the literature), there is a famous writer, some of you might have heard of, whose forum is named after one of his Magnus Opusās that goes into great deal of detail on the subject and does a wonderful job presenting evidence of his theories.
I am not trying to be rude or dismissive which often is a sign of an individual who might not be as versed in a subject they feign expertise. I know what I know, I know what I donāt know. Itās the things you donāt know that you donāt know that is the problem for most people.
Itās just youāre asking me give a summary of very dense books filled with alot of information whose conclusions are agreed upon by other researchers in the field. Most with alot less visibility than Hancock that people donāt seek out. And Hancock has managed to almost totally avoid the Bronze Age Collapse Christopher Dunnās work is excellent.
We have ancient texts on the capstone Herodotus, Siculus, Pliny the Elder, Agatharchides of Cnidus. Modern writers besides Christopher Dunn and Joseph Farrel include Rober Schooch and Tony Bushby.
In addition, the bibliography in both of the books are huge.
This is not a subject where superficial takes, spending an hour watching a video is going to get you to the truth. For me itās been a lifetime pursuit and thatās why I can spot the egregious errors in calculations off the top.
Iām happy to have a dialectic discussion on any of these subjects because superficial doesnāt work for me. But Iām not willing to spend an hour summarizing books that are available to the entire community where nobody elses addresses and people click thru on their way to the next post. Modern society. Ugh. Dialectic engagement has all but died.
The Capstones would be absolutely necessary for activation. On the general purpose, nothing wrong with any of Josephās writings. Great stuff!! Itās harnessing the powers of nature for purposes of evil. I also suspect that they also served as some kind of teleportation area for people to travel to other planets.
Thatās a postulate. A statement that I am not willing to defend. I could make a good case for it without referencing any other authority other than my own experience.
I encourage anyone deeply and authentically interested in this subject to check out some of the other authors Iāve posted.
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I found this book courtesy of a bibliography from one of the books you posted. It too has references a mile long for additional research. Thanks.
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I can google bibliographies I wanted your summary, your take, but OKā¦
Ask AI for a summary of any title.
I wrote my take. Abeit a brief summary. There was absolutely no redeeming qualities or information to give you insight?
I gave you the briefing of why Hancockās timing is thousands of years off with a two page screen shot of the explanation about the confusion of calendars. And it timed the end of the Bronze Age structures. That piece of information alone messes with peopleās minds because they have taken in all misinterpretations of Platoās writings and canāt unwire it. I once knew this guy from NASA that climbed down rabbit holes but couldnāt get his around the timing because the timing feels like yesterday.
I gave my high level summary that the Giza and the entire grid was as Joseph writes in a book. I donāt think Iām being dismissive by not giving a full summary of the book or similar texts.
the missing top piece that once crowned the Great Pyramid of Giza and, even earlier, a pyramid in Atlantis that could unleash the same destructive evils/forces that caused Atlantis to sink/destroy itself in the distant past.
The books go into the Crespi Treasures in Ecuador, nuclear weapons, the falling out of a planet in orbit, the layout of the land, flying machines, A Hindu Aryan race (white people) and a Hindu dark race slaughtering each other, and a complete take over wise leadership by a dark group of people. Then we have giants from different planets. Then we could spend hours talking about all the mythologies in religious scriptures, and indigenous versions of the narrative. The origin of the Four Directions in Native American and why there are still White Guys in Siberia beating drums like the Natives did. We could talk about why Mexicans look Chinese, Who Quetzecoatl was and how he is not a fictional person but a real life person that lead people off the island to Central America. Crystals that purportedly were the main source of energy. How all citizens of Atlantis had raised their siddhis powers and it was common for the average person to read auraās.
Then we can talk about the Paul Bunyon and all the mining in the Upper Peninsual of Michigan wasnāt done by the native americanās who barely had shovels and mined all the high grade copper that was more precious than gold of today. And how it was used for weapons. We could talk about Homer and his writings and how it is the Atlantean plot.
Come on man. Youāre asking a little too much. If you want to be more specific, Iād be happy to answer. But this is a huge topic. And after I spend two hours writing it all out, Trump is gonna take a dunk on the White House lawn and sprinkle fairy dust over Iran in a nano second, everyoneās attention will be moved to current events.
I already probably put out more information on the subject than is in all the archives by community members? Maybe. I simply was bringing your attention to a narrative that really has no, ZERO, validity based on all the written and scientific knowledge we have. One guys take.
My version is a synergy of untold number books from archeologists, to spiritual texts.
I was going to ask you why you think that drinking of a magical soma was related to Pyramids? Alot of that probably has to do with the cult of Dionysius and the attempt for people to get some kind of enlightenment from plants which I can understand takes people into non-ordinary states but I can assure you that Any of the great saints in any of the traditions. Christian, Buddhist, Hindu, the Ancient Mystery schools around the time of Jesus, didnāt use those methods.
Now society is grappling again with bringing back LSD as a medicinal to help people with trauma. I donāt have a problem with it other than psychology already has the technology to ensure that no person on earth should suffer from any kind of Post Traumatic Disorder and yet, I donāt see anybody talking about that?
Itās what the community wants. The group consciousness. If people were interested in this topic like they were other current events, we could have 100 pages. But it aināt gonna happen. Iāll participate but I aināt gonna write in a vacuum.
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I personally rejected the world according to Graham many years ago. Just listening to his explanation of Giza as a monument had me hitting the pause (enough) button.
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ā¦or Papaver somniferumā¦?
ā¦a genetically modified version(in āthose timesā) ā¦of the family of plants known as Papaveraceaeā¦otherwise some the most beautiful and harmless garden flowersā¦
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I was pretty surpassed in 1976 when I was in the Chateau Region of the Loire Valley and saw fields of those plants. Botany is one of my majors.
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I didnāt realise heās been unwell. Hope he comes through OK.
The interview packed a lot in. Iāve always found Mr Hancock easy on the ears and mind. He doesnāt try to stretch out an interview into 3 hours, and then you have look back and wonder what you actually learnt.
Heās survived this long, AND an insider āOutsiderā who got to ruffle some important feathers. Some kudos there. When he got kicked out of Egypt by Minister of Antiquities Zahi Hawass that would have hurt. I always wondered were the pyramids built by Slaves via our contemporary limited 3D definition of the word.
[00:50:05] Were Ancient Secrets Passed Down Through Time?
He speaks of the priest craft: āThe followers of Horusā.
GH: āā¦They served as advisers to kings. They were called sages. Thereās a reference to them. Many cultures refer to them as the seven sages. They provided advice to kings in the historical period. And Iām wondering whether weāre looking at some kind of long lived organisation here which is carrying down information looking for the right time to switch the engine of civilisationā¦ā
I donāt think it is extreme. Also, Tolkien in his story showed us in his World the important position of the advisor āWormtongueā.
[1:22:45] Interviewer: āā¦about a year working in a quite a big psychedelics company just to I got really fascinated. Iād left my company. I didnāt have anything to do with my time. So I started this podcast and I also uh on YouTube and I also started working at a psychedelics business cuz I found the studies on mental health and psychedelics really interesting. So I have quite a deep understanding I guess higher than average of IIbogaine and Ayahuasca, DMT and my partner um is very very spiritual and has done all these things as well. So one of the fascinating things is how similar peopleās experiences are on something like DMT. the funnily enough your description of these creatures saying youāre you belong to us now is almost verbatimā¦ā
Whoa Huh? Nah. Maybe in certain experiments?
[1:26:428] GH {Aged wisdom}: āā¦until weāve grown up as a species, which we havenāt done yet. We need to know ourselves. Psychedelics are [A] one way to do that. Not used irresponsibly, but used responsibly in a structured, careful, thoughtful way. They can be very helpful in knowing ourselvesā¦ā
[1:31:01] GH āā¦And uh the deceased is led into the hall by the goddess Maat. Sheās recognised by a feather that she wears in her headdress. Sheās the goddess of truth, justice, and cosmic harmonyā¦ā
Who and what is the lineage of Maat?
Again, hope he comes through the operation and has more to say as what is made/created to come.
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I have literally stacks of books on my coffee table I truly want to get in and read. I must say I often have an uncanny ability when I need an answer to flick to the TOC or Index, or even page and find an explanation or answer as to what I was musing over.
We are not AI so we canāt gobble up whole scripts/books etc. and then immediately concoct an answer, but I think some of us can, over time merge ideas, theories etc. that help us maybe click in place āsomeā of the pieces of the cosmic puzzle. Pieces that may resonate with us personally. Not with othersā¦ thatās OK too.
āā¦harnessing the powers of nature for purposes of evil. I also suspect that they also served as some kind of teleportation area for people to travel to other planetsā¦ā Yeahā¦ does seem to fit the plot eh!
āā¦drinking of a magical soma was related to Pyramids? Alot of that probably has to do with the cult of Dionysius and the attempt for people to get some kind of enlightenment from plantsā¦ā
From what Iāve read Natural Entheogens have been used well before the Cult of Dionysius. Maybe having a lot to do with the traveller and how the entheogen is used?
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Away with the Fairies. Put screaming kids to bed?
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Exactly. Right on target.
Mothers used to put their children to sleep with a small dose of opium placed under their tongue.
In some regions of the world.Includingā¦wellā¦
Now that itās a science,or at least knowledge, or know-howā¦
- First one needs to know the effects of the substance on the human body
- One needs to know exactly where on which part of the body to implement it to have an effect
- The exact amount to implement so that there are no side effects, illness or death
4.Mothersā¦They had to somehow manage to get their screaming children to sleepā¦so they could continue with their extremely physically demanding, other daily duties at home, in the fields, agriculture, livestockā¦etcā¦
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ME TOO!
My Coffee Table is stacked Sky-High with booksā¦
and more on their way.
Not to mention magazines.
I find this computer is eating away at my reading time.
Just finishing, From Lopoc With Love by Haris Orkinā¦
As I just promised it to someone[had it for months on the table].
Time-management, thay call it.
AND, I flunked it!
Still working on getting this computer time in sync.
At least I donāt have a Smart Phone.
Iām afraid that would beā¦
A final cognitive-coffin-nailā¦
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