Beam Forming Wifi Router

Faster, expanded coverage throughout your home and for all your
devices
o High-performance antennas – Nine internal antennas provide
reliable WiFi coverage over a large area; antennas are optimized for
the best WiFi performance.
o AFC support – Onboard GPS provides capability to Geo-locate the
device to provide more power and range++
o Beamforming – Concentrates wireless signal strength towards
clients to expand WiFi range.
o High power amplifiers – Improves transmission power to improve
whole-home coverage.

Well, that settles that …

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beamforming…likely an exaggeration. It likely has several antennas pointing different directions, can detect a client device and concentrate the power to the antenna aimed closest to that vector. Beamforming (true beamforming) requires multiple antenna elements typically in a single plane and the phase of the signal and power level to each is computer controlled to push a strong pulse of energy in a specific direction. Highly doubtful that little thing can do such. Not a fan of wireless routers (do have one) but maybe this is a good thing…it doesn’t fling 'trons in every direction even when no client is in the radiated space.

I concur with your initial assessment, but the delivery kit for the new equipment includes a wireless amplifier and multiple passive octagonal antennas. The apparent logic is to create a multi-directional matrix blanketing the entire home. My multimeter readings indicate the 5G router signal attenuates more rapidly than the inverse square law would predict. However, the passive antennas significantly amplify the signal even through structural materials and flooring, creating areas of elevated radiation if multiple units are powered from the same 110V circuit. Importantly, these units seem to be using the home’s wiring to transmit a weaker signal via the 110V outlets and passive antennas. Since installing the router and experimenting with antenna configurations, I’ve observed an unexpected phenomenon akin to Maxwell’s demon appearing in the building’s walls. Radiation that should be measurable at defined distances from the router, are not present, nor is the sensible thermal heat I’m accustomed to finding. And, worse, it is appearing in varying quantities on other floors other floors of the home without the measurable changes in the free spaces between the source and the passive elements.

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For context, I’m a biophysicist and physician by training, I washed out of medicine three years after completing my residency. As a side note, I operate a small consulting LLC specializing in the assessment of home radiation levels in relation to various devices.

My services involve measuring radiation levels on clients’ properties, identifying areas of concern, and providing recommendations on custom grounding systems and preventative nutritional strategies. It is not my career, per se, but a hobby that turned into an actual strategy that intersects with a necessary war on this kind of tech.

This particular iteration seems to have some sort of feature providing for an internal storage and translation of energy within the materials of the structure. Of course, this would mean we should find additional heat in the structural materials. I’ve not experienced anything quite like this previously. Also, the updated tech bundle was not ordered, it was a “free update” given by our telecom provider due to our use rate. Free indeed, as in, free from making any sense.

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AirPort Extreme claims “Six-element beam forming array” within one device, is that true or false beam forming?

https://support.apple.com/en-us/112419

Wireless

  • IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n/ac
  • Six-element beamforming antenna array
  • Simultaneous dual-band 2.4GHz and 5GHz
  • Radio output power: 32.5 dBm maximum (varies by country)
  • Channels 1-11, 36-116, 132-140, and 149-165 approved for use in the United States and Canada
  • Channels 1-13, 36-64, and 100-140 approved for use in Europe and Japan
  • Channels 1-13, 36-64, and 149-165 approved for use in Australia, Hong Kong, and New Zealand

They aren’t manufacturing those any more this is from about ten years ago.

I have a bad feeling about this.

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Here is a meter that measures frequencies in A.C. wall electrical systems but not necessarily all radiation you need an antenna meter for that:

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My compliments for the level of effort you’ve put into your analysis. Most would never bother to collect data this way. It’s well known that data signals can be sent across the house wiring. There were once in-home radio systems that would do this, Radio Shack sold them.

Have you perchance painted your walls with paint that contains metal particles to act as an RF shield (commercially available paints)? If so, perhaps this is affecting the signal, forming some sort of ground plane / reflector for signal. If you have a router like described it would be interesting to get signal levels at different places around the router to see if it is truly sending signal stronger one direction than another. Then move the client device to see if that signal changes.

I expect all routers are somewhat directional…this one if as it’s described should be more than typically directional.

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I do know of such systems designed to piggy-back in the home wiring, I just didn’t think these, in particular the 5G with extremely short pulses and limited carrier range, would penetrate 1/2 sheet rock, primer paint and wall paper, and then various wood and wire insulation, especially without any heat. 5G is famous for it’s short range abilities and absurdist levels of power.

No, the home is essentially brand new and we’ve experienced enormous issues with the upstairs, second floor above ground, with router in first floor below ground, trapping humidity which is cause for wondering if the moisture in the materials is acting like a wave guide. This cause enough to build a small model of the wall just as it would be in the structure, one in which the internal material can be readily accessed and subject to measurement.

Yes, I have experimented with directionality and the repeaters in the new equipment seem to be fairly consistent with spherical pulses I have gotten elsewhere, unless I start plugging in the passive antennae in the 110V outlets. At which point, you start creating standing zones of higher radiation between source and target.

We’re likely being too technical on this forum. The take-away for most people is what you’d expect: better WI FI coverage means you’re living in a denser WI FI soup.

That said, sounds to me like the Router itself is sending signal to the ‘repeater’ (remote) antennas through house wiring to get clean accurate signal, then the others just chirp the signal they received over the wire in the 5g frequencies within that separate space. Pretty clever. But also not really beamforming.

And yes, 5g is a higher frequency so dissipates faster in the air (hence the dense grid of antennas / cell towers needed). The advantage over the lower frequency is more data can be sent (to support data rate for all the high def signals people are demanding).

I’m not an RF engineer, but worked with/around it for the last part of my career.

Is 5g really worse for you than lower frequency signals? There are probably others on the forum who have researched that more than I have.

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Both are harmful within distinct anatomical structures but the result is largely similar. Radiation initiates a cascade of depletionary reactions leading to the evacuation of tissue stores of anti-oxidants and B vitamins, quite similar to ethanol consumption. The result is replication of undifferentiated tissue, or tumors, and ossified anatomy, cirrhosis. This is strictly speaking the chemical effects, there are others that are even more severe in implication.

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Depends on what 5g you are talking about, 5ghz with mesh system seems like higher radiation than 2.4 ghz and needs at least two antenna points to work for mesh system. 5ghz has limited range but data can go faster.

“5g” fifth generation cell network includes low-band radio waves and mid-range + high range frequencies.

Local internet provider in my area uses wifi routers by this company called “air-ties”:

For these to work correctly they are supposed to be far apart and have some obstacles like metal furnace boxes between them.

When only main unit is powered up the 2.4 ghz light is green but 5ghz light is flashing red, unsettling. 5 Ghz light turns green when there is at least one other “wifi spot” device powered up and connected to radio-network. Plan to return these they seem no good (are just leased not sold by company, and they control settings from their office).

Don’t need wi fi, wired connections are better.

Press release:

PARIS – May 14, 2024 – Airties, a global leader of managed Wi-Fi solutions for broadband service providers, today announced it is deploying Airties’ suite of Smart Wi-Fi software to T-Mobile 5G Home Internet customers across the United States, including for T-Mobile’s new Home Internet Plus plan, to help further optimize the broadband experience. Today’s announcement builds upon Airties’ growing market leadership in optimizing home Wi-Fi performance with fixed 5G wireless access networks around the world.

We are very honored that T-Mobile selected Airties to help them provide an exceptional managed home Wi-Fi experience to their customers, and we are excited to support their vision now and into the future.

Metin Taskin, CEO of Airties

“Fixed wireless continues to reshape the home broadband market, and we’re proud to be at the forefront of enabling service providers to enhance performance across their 5G and home Wi-Fi networks,” said Metin Taskin, CEO of Airties. “We are very honored that T-Mobile selected Airties to help them provide an exceptional managed home Wi-Fi experience to their customers, and we are excited to support their vision now and into the future.”

Airties is currently working with leading service providers around the globe on 5G fixed wireless deployments, in addition to their vast deployments with wired access technologies (fiber, cable, etc.). Airties also recently announced an advanced technical collaboration with Qualcomm for fixed wireless access to simplify OEM product development and enhance quality of experience. Airties’ unique hybrid cloud-edge software architecture leverages both the embedded intelligence in customer premises equipment (Wi-Fi 7, Wi-Fi 6E, Wi-Fi 6, etc.) and the cloud to maximize responsiveness and performance. Airties Edge, smart Wi-Fi software for gateways/routers/extenders, intelligently directs consumers’ devices (laptops, tablets, phones, game consoles, IoT, smart home devices, etc.) to the best available Wi-Fi access point and frequency band based on real-time network conditions. The software, based on industry standard Wi-Fi EasyMeshTM, also turns existing home gateways into an intelligent Wi-Fi mesh access point, improving the quality and stability of connectivity within the home. Airties Cloud helps monitor and orchestrate Wi-Fi across homes, optimizes broadband gateways and mesh extenders to ensure a better quality of experience, delivers insights on connected devices, and provides APIs to power operator’s customer facing support apps.

Airties has been recognized with many prestigious industry awards for its innovative work serving broadband operators, including: “Best Home Wi-Fi Solution Award” from Broadband World Forum; “Best Wi-Fi Service Provider Solution” and “Best Home Wi-Fi Product” awards from Wi-Fi NOW; “Best Wi-Fi Innovation” and “Best-In Home Wi-Fi Network” awards from Wireless Broadband Alliance; “Best Broadband Customer Experience” from Cable & Satellite International; and many others.

Additional information about Airties can be found at: www.airties.com.

T-Mobile Selects Airties for Home Wi-Fi Deployments Across USA

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