Charlie Kirk, Man of Steel

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Man of steel’’ Charlie Kirk likely prevented others from getting dangerously hurt when he was shot because the bullet miraculously failed to exit his body thanks to his strong bones, his camp said.

The surgeon who tried to save the mortally wounded Turning Point USA founder described it as an “absolute miracle” that the bullet, which hit the conservative icon’s neck, did not pass through him and strike any of the dozens of people standing behind him at his final speaking event at Utah Valley University on Sept. 10, according to a Turning Point spokesman.

“I’m usually not interested in delving into most of this kind of online chatter, and I apologize this is somewhat graphic, but in this case, the fact that there wasn’t an exit wound is probably another miracle, and I want people to know,” wrote the rep, Andrew Kolvet, on X on Saturday, after sick conspiracists looked to exploit reports of a lack of an exit wound

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So they had at least one shooter and someone standing near him to hold the Kryptonite…

At least we’re moving in the right direction now…no more of these fantasy stories.

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… It is interesting that there has still (as far as I’ve noticed) not been any ballistic information as of yet.

That there was no exit wound would seem to possibly say things about caliber, distance from target, weapon, type of bullet …

Maybe those kinds of questions are why we have not been given any information yet.

Hmmmm. With JFK the “magic” was that the bullet went through way more, and in more ways, than it should have. With CK the “magic” was that it did not.

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Reverse social engineering at its finest. Superman in reference to a Nazi way of life?

Anything to keep folks from talking about those darn Epstein files with the Mossad connection that prove how all those in our high highfalutin leadership class were compromised leading to their downfall, loss of credibility to ‘lead’ and their power to make stuff happen, plus it could mean the downfall of our country. The globalization will be hastened…It a matter of National Security, the masses just will never understand.:speak_no_evil:

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Lower than cartoon level information about the ‘man of steel’. If there indeed were a 30 caliber bullet ‘just under the skin’ it was inserted there by someone on the way to the hospital. Which would ABSOLUTELY confirm a conspiracy as you would have to have a fired bullet (which shows spiral engraving from the rifle bore) in your pocket to be able to do so.

You’ve all likely seen much of the analysis done by former special forces etc podcasters. The 30-06 cartridge would shoot through an elk side through side shattering any heavy rib bone it might encounter along the way. Full jacket bullet vs soft/hollow point does make a difference for deep penetrations, but in soft tissue as thin as a human neck there’s not enough resistance to cause mushrooming of the projectile. It would blast through with a clean little three tenths of an inch diameter (.30 same as 3 caliber) hole and be somewhat larger in the exit hole which absolutely would have happened.

Saw an interview of a student that was begun before the shot was fired, the shot happened during the interview. The student was standing on the upper terrace of the building supposedly the shot came from. The sound seemed to emit from the area of the stage (as has been said by others). Heads turned in the direction of the stage (natural instinct when a loud sound is heard) and heads did NOT turn above them toward the roof of the bldg where shot was supposed to fire from.

Most likely a small caliber pistol was fired from Kirk’s right side, bullet entered in the hairline behind/near the ear and exited where we saw it on his left neck.

NSA identified 12 IS cellphones in the audience during the event and forwarded this info to FBI.

Robinson likely never fired a shot. The sounds just are not consistent with the story being given.

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… remember what G.R. Ford said (paraphrased) about his altering of the autopsy drawing … “I falsified the autopsy report because I felt the nation needed closure.” Fantasy stories evidently give us “closure”. What ever that is …

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https://x.com/valvenisent/status/1967372799645012036?s=61

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… and who was holding those IS phones? … and this must have been known PRIOR to the shooting. Hmmmmm. IF TRUE

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For a point of reference to the uninitiated…In the popular film “Saving Private Ryan” Edward Burns plays Sergent Reiben. He’s the one that gives Tom Hanks character so much grief about the mission. The weapon that he carries is the B.A.R. (Browning Automatic Rifle) which fires a .30-06 round. It’s a heavy gun. I’ve fired one. Can’t imagine lugging it around for weeks (dont forget about the ammo, you’ll need to carry that too, lots of it). I still have the civilian version of the BAR, or did till a few weeks ago when it was stolen by Somali pirates (has a better ring to it that just "boating accident :slight_smile: )…

Anyway, back in the day…my grandfather was deer hunting on his property and attempted a shot at one from his front porch (.30-06). It was standing on the treeline and really too far a shot for iron sights…let’s just say several football fields. The deer was standing sideways and though he’d aimed for the chest, the bullet went low. It completely removed one of his knees and most of the one behind it…Poor fella’… The bullet that hit Kirk could not have been a .30-06 in my humble opinion.

If we’re going to get any closure it won’t be given to us…the people will have to take it.

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Years ago a friend bought a US Army training booklet for the Springfield 30-06 rifle at a tag sale. I remember him reading something like this this from it “The enemy is nowhere safe from you with the US Springfield rifle. You can shoot through a 2’ oak tree and kill him behind it” Perhaps a bit of hyperbole, but illustrative of the power level of the cartridge. The Springfield rifle was derived from the Mauser BTW.

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Hiding behind a vehicle won’t save you for certain. Might deflect the bullet slightly if you’re lucky. I’ve seen rounds tear through THICK metal plating at 70 yards just playing around…

Whatever they’re saying is not what happened.

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I was going to make it a separate post , but since you mentioned ballistic. Here we go, there is an interesting take on it over the X.

Acoustic analysis confirms shooter was near ground-level, ~70-90ft away — not a rooftop.
Crack–bang intervals across all recordings: 0.08–0.14s = 70–90 ft distance
(speed of sound @ 82°F = 1141 ft/s)
Closest audio clip shows total crack/bang overlap, impact clear = <100 ft

https://x.com/2Smartski/status/1968415728802976128?t=CwmEe-JD-L4uzf05kB3C8A&s=19

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Ha! I just stopped in to post this very video linked from PCR but I see you’ve beat me to it!

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I’ve been following John Cullen’s work on the case, he has done great work on the Butler shooting.

No sure about his comments on being approached by the government for an interview, but he details drones flying around and acoustic analysis of the shots. #UhOh

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I was hoping someone was going to do this accoustic analysis. So now someone needs to find a hide that distance off to Kirk’s right at a modest downward angle. Where he was sitting under the awning it couldn’t have been too high.

A pro sniper would not have waited until the day of the event to plan all this out. Must have had prior knowledge where the podium/awning would be set up and chair location to verify line of sight to Kirk’s neck/body.

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… the other piece of information that has not been released is the angle of “entry”. But I’m sure that is in the “report”.

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Cullen and Crowdsource kinda ramble, but some interesting work. Several odd factoids. Sound impulse triangulation to same location as the spotted drone, and electronics seemingly jammed at that exact moment. Here’s some wild speculation: the pop heard people though was a gunshot may have been a small explosion used to create an EMP pulse to disrupt livestreaming / cell phone recording. Under this theory, the actual shooter would be using a suppressed subsonic rifle/pistol shooting from cover on Kirk’s right side.

Could be totally off, but something to think about.

5 drones flying around and a US army surveillance aircraft operating strangely in the area day of place a whole new level of complexity to this thing.

No wonder Kash is pushing the low tech patsy story…so much they may/may not know about and don’t wish to admit they can’t control.

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… they are just pushing any “story” they can get out. This one has already gotten away from them. Each “fact” they produce only further unravels the story. They have no story. The sooner we all get used to the idea that we will never know the story the better off we will all be.

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One of the major employers in the area is Hill Air Force Base just not too far away. Who knows what tinkers they in storage….

And this little jewel. I’ve been here for drag racing events back in the day.

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