GRAMMAR, SYNTAX, AND THE LANGUAGE OF (SOME) BIRDS

[Scarmoge]

… “… can it be understood and expressed like a physics model though it’s immaterial?” - Bill’s question above.

Yes, it can, C.S. Peirce’s attempt at what you ask is to be found in his Logic of Relations. One idea that is crucial … A complete Ontology has two kinds or types of objects (very roughly speaking). There are Existent Reals (material objects with physical qualities) and Non-Existent Reals (objects that can have any and or all of the qualities of ERs with one exception - material existence).

… see Pdf gratis https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326712100_To_Take_the_Writer’s_Meaning_An_Unpublished_Manuscript_on_Peirce_and_Modern_Semiotic_by_Walker_Percy

[Bill10558]

In essence Plato’s forms are a factor in understanding life and can be accounted for in an algebraic formula. Ignoring or disclaiming their existence skews inquiries regarding reality.

[Scarmoge]

… possibly even more than “a factor”. The claim is roughly that Relations are primary and Material Existence is secondary. Without the Reality of Relations being logically prior there would be no means for Material Existence to occur. A question that Peirce asked was to consider if all of the inquiry concerning the Existence of God might be misdirected. What if God is not an ER but an NER? The question then becomes one concerning The Reality of God not The Existence of God. Inquiry into objects that are NERs might require a very different method of inquiry from that used for inquiry into ERs. … on this see A History and Philosophy of the Social Sciences by Peter T. Manicas.

… on The Reality of God see Peirce A Neglected Argument for the Reality of God - Wikisource, the free online library

[Scarmoge]

… everything that Exists is Real, but not everything that is Real Exists.

[Bill10558]

I think the dream analogy will stick with me forever as an example.

[Scarmoge]

… that I had a dream is true as to the contents of the dream …

[Divergent]

@Robert_Barricklow

An advanced form would deal with the higher dimension’s aspect.

Would it?

@Robert_Barricklow

Perhaps, even engineering plasmas in thought processes.
Or, controlling, such processes.

…in the beginning was the word…?
…or thought?
Or are they both one and the same?
Is there a thought without words, without speech, and vice versa?

[Divergent]

@Robert_Barricklow

facr; could “they” engineer OUT certain thoughts?
Making you incapble of thinking in certain ways… ?
Counter to their objectives?

Yes “they” can,and “they do”…but…

Enough of this terminology…enough is enough…
At least for me personally.
Who are “they”? Why do we even use this word?
And the term dimensions…enough.
What are dimensions?
Are they measures, calculated measures, numbers…?
Or is it more correct to use the ancient names…for these things, such as…heavens, or worlds…

[Divergent]

,…аnd there is Omega directive…

- YouTube

[Robert_Barricklow]

Unknown.
Could be, the higher dimension, have higher forms of parasites.
The good, The Bad, and The Ugly.

Be careful where you dare to go.
Less there be monsters.

Language is a tool.

Theoretically, one can disgard the tool.
Or, is that; Disguard the tool.
[which, in turn; has many interpretations.
As does, reading the Bible[King James/w/o Protestant intriques]

In other WORDS?

EXACTLY!

Tricky, is it not?

Tricky?
Is it: NOT?

[Divergent]

@Robert_Barricklow

Could be, the higher dimension, have higher forms of parasites.

True.They do.But, I have recently stopped using the terms: dimensions either high, higher or low or lower in my way of thinking.
Such a categorization is a reflection and product of an absolutist way of thinking that things are fixed. Everything is above or below. Which is a perceptual illusion, deliberately created since the time of R. Descartes…and even before. Up, down, left, right. Binary thinking.
And yes, 361 degrees is a significant breakthrough in the walls of the matrix…but until you get to 3,6,9…degree…
Anyway…mathematics, or rather calculus, is not the only universal language…

[Divergent]

@Robert_Barricklow

Be careful where you dare to go.
Less there be monsters.

The light is blinding. Darkness comes next. Darkness…confronts one with oneself,shows you who you realy are,what you are,and most importantly why you are.
Consider the experiments with total sensory deprivation, for example…

Sensory deprivation

and ofcourse…

" People will do anything, no matter how absurd, in order to avoid facing their own souls. One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious."

• Carl Jung