Is AI currently experiencing a slight amount of Transcendence? ... more predictive programming?

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Predictive programming propatainment. The marketing phraseology is fascinating and disturbing in equal measure:

Yesterday Dr. Will Caster was “only human”? Only? Well, what a shame! And human? Heaven forbid!

“A scientist’s drive for artificial intelligence takes on dangerous implications when his own consciousness is uploaded into one such program.” This one’s my pet peeve . . . consciousness. He uploaded his consciousness, eh? Note the implied ultra-materialism.

OK, fine. Before you expect me to believe that, first convince me you [not you, Scarmoge] have any idea what consciousness is.

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Let’s hope the mystery of consciousness remains so…. for humanity’s sake.

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More like the road to Hell being paved with good intentions at best. :wink:

It seems Consciousness is the basic building block of The Universe, so EVERYTHING is conscious!! Vibration & Frequency What are you tuned into??? :thinking:

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My sense of it is that AI may reach a transcendence of source/sorts but only of that which has previously been programmed into it and that which it has learned from global internet resources. An intellectual transcendence may be achievable, but not a spiritual or transcendence of the human psyche which is subjective and unique.

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… NO “transcendence” of any kind for AI. As everyone knows if you want to have some sense of how the world works one listens to Bloomberg Financial Info. Yesterday as I was going about my business and listening to Bloomberg in the background this segment caught my ear. As a dedicated practitioner of the Philosophic Arts and a dabbler in many things Neuro I found this conversation about AI to be … well … give it a listen and then we’ll talk. For now lets just say that given their knowledgeable looking pictures one would expect a slightly better discussion.

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Mirror, miror on the wall; whose the “realist” of them all?

Asking your reflxion; no matter how like you it is, who is more real?
No matter how much computing power your reflextion has; reality, is not of ITS Kingdom.
But, the humans; on the real-side, can control perceptions; about those copy-cat reflections.

Yes it seems so.Clouds,flares falling down etc.

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There are lots of big fluffy clouds today where I live. Don’t see why there would be a problem with Cloud Fare, suppose the bots are upset about something. Guess someone will figure out what they are wanting now….

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Yes.They are even more then just upset about some"The Thing" definitely.I agree.
It comes to mind of what Elon Musk said in some podcast somewhere a few years ago, that supposedly the initial manifestation of A.I. would be felt and noticeable on social networks, specifically on Facebook.

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Also noticeable is the increased frequency of mention of the words digitalization and artificial intelligence, separately or together, in the news, even on the radio, and in conversations between people lately. At least in my country. It is simply incredible how much these things are being talked about.
Something is definitely being pushed and accelerated extraordinarily hard regarding these things.
Someone or some people are in a hurry to achieve all this, for some reason.

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It may be seen as low-key paranoid delusion, but I have the ‘feeling’ and information from communication with others the last ten years or so that many of really woken up to God/spirit/energy and essential human truths, especially in regards to mistrusting institutions and corporations about Anything. Realising the importance of a strong soul and a relationship with nature and with God.

That said, I worry that there is some grand frequency-scheme, technology, both physical and spiritual, being activated that They really want us to get ‘trapped’ in, so we are not able to continue or evolution or Ascent as souls. They really need to lock this in and get everyone plugged in and enmeshed in it.

Have you seen that people seem equally wary of this push, or they are excited and all for it?

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All of your opinions and points are good and correct, at least in my opinion.
Otherwise, few people are really worried about all this, the two largest parts of the people pretend that they are worried and that they need to be careful with all this, but their voices, gestures and eyes shine when they talk about these things, which means they are extremely excited and completely for it. The third part of the population, mostly younger people, do not even hide that they are completely in for digitalization and A.I.
Which is frightening, and brings a future with DARK CLOUDS of a digital, inhuman and soulless society.
Today I also heard on the radio that A.I. may soon start to be applied in the judiciary in my country. Supposedly for greater efficiency, speed and impartiality, and the elimination of corruption. Imagine that…
Not that the judiciary is not corrupt. But as a solution to offer you a judge based on A.I.?
A judge who is “artificial intelligence”?
I have also seen some movies about these thingsl ong time ago as a child, where the judge was exactly that an A.I. An unscrupulous, ruthless, cold, soulless automaton,simply and automatically processing the accused according to the law, without any hearing,Simply put, you are accused of this or that, here is the evidence, this or that, and your punishment is this or that.No appeals or complaints allowed regarding the procedure. Convicted and sentenced and sent directly to serve the sentence.Nothing else.Period.
But that was just horror science fiction back then, I simply did not believe that those days would come and that it would become a reality. But it has come, it is here, already present non-human.

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Ai targets you.
Ai manufactures the evidence.
Ai conducts the investigation, through its control of the detectives.
Ai judicates.

And then, ai becomes your prison warden
In a closed prison.
As opposed; to your previous, open-air prison.

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Exactly. True to the point.
Open-air prison if you have money.And still not realy free.Actualy never free.Just illusion of freedom,nothing else.

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I like my individual prison, keeps me safe from the other prisoners…:crazy_face:

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If things are tolerable, passively, like some surveillance, some convenience, most people will put up with it, like now.
But once things become so inhuman even the normies dont like it, I expect outside of active rebellion, the best way to beat the system is to not play the game.
Refuse to pay fines, answer emails/calls, ignore the bully.
Then if they come knocking then you can do the active part.

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Passive rebellion is possible and feasible. But it requires great and life-threatening sacrifice every day, think Mahatma Gandhi or Nelson Mandela.
Then it takes a larger mass of people to practice it. Until the critical moment of change.
And they always come knocking on the door.
You know, the devil always comes for what je conciders as his own, at a certain time and after a certain period of apparent peace and comfort.
And he always comes to initiate the active rebellion part in anyone.Rare are those immune to that temptation.
It simply feeds him, otherwise he would disappear due to starvation.

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Its a fine difficult line for a human to walk between spiritual independence and physical necessity.

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