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Hmm, I have a mixed feeling about lots of J. Warner views, but one thing I agree with him, is that Germany (Bavarians) lost its soul, and they need a second collective baptismal immersion. Problem is Rhone River is drying up, and that also a sign in my opinion.
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While I have the same mixed feelings you do, I think what CAF said about this is the only way we will get anywhere. It’s likely that many of these people who’ve been blackmailed & otherwise turned to the agenda against us would give most anything to be freed from their predicament as well. If we do not find a way for them to make some sort of restitution, there’s no chance of gaining their cooperation. CAF is absolutely right about this, although she says she hasn’t figured out how to work it yet, I truly hope she does. It goes against the grain, bigtime, but when you think about it, it’s true. No, they would not remain in, or be allowed into a position of trust ever again & watched like a hawk, but they might at least be free of the bonds they’re held captive in now.
It just might be the only way. If it will eventually help the rest of us, I’ll put my need for retribution aside. I won’t like it, but I’ll do it.
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@ebmason
I think, the biggest problem is the belief there is a them and us and that there is not a them and us!
I also belief that is what CAF finds so hard to convey, ultimately people that betray others believe in the them and us proposition. If they understood, they wouln’t betray themselves to begin with.
I am a staunch proponent of personhood but that doesn’t mean I have no obligations to others personhood.
So, what pervails, me or them or what does me or them mean exactly and how do those two things relate? Can they relate peacefully ect.
For the most part I am still figuring out what the proper “rules of engagement” are with awareness of personhood and engament to other personhoods, and I hope so many more people are. If we don’t our own toys will kill us and humanity with earth becomes a distant memory!
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