New Sci-Fi Books Using the New Pronouns

Just ran across another book using the new “language” pronouns.
Saddens me.
You’d think these authors would realize the game that is being played.
If so? The “they” have become the pronouns themselves. Captured.
If not? Then how did I end up reading such a dumbed-down author?

Rant over.
But still mad.

This was one author I truly enjoyed reading.
I’ll still finish the book.
The character I admired in the novel, is now captured by forces outside her control.
She hasn’t a chance in Hel.

I’ll have to use fantasy fiction’s site; to preview the first couple of chapters, so I can avoid these pronoun captured authors.

I don’t now if any of you have run across this; but it’s damn annoying!!!

Becky Chambers is the only author I know who can do this without making me cringe (and has been doing it for several years now). That’s because she created a universe where “people” are from about six or seven different alien races along with humans. Some have up to six genders, and others change gender over time (female when young, male after childbearing). Hence, it works to have most adults be just “ze” because there are plenty of intelligent and active characters that, in human terms, have no gender at all or more than one at the same time (or are born from eggs).

Humans adopt this system after a time, but they realize it takes an egg and a sperm to make a human baby. They also know that isn’t the case for some of their crewmates, whose evolutionary backgrounds may differ completely. I have noticed that almost all of her aliens have some counterpart in the animal reproductive world on Earth though it is never mentioned. From seahorses, where the female gives birth, but the males care for the babies, to certain types of birds and lizards who lay their eggs and forget about them.

But this doesn’t work in most books, except in military science fiction when everyone is “Sir,” even the females, or in Becky Chambers’s world, the Captian is “Zer,” as a title of respect.

Becky Chambers is “woke,” but I like her work anyway. She’s writing science fiction and fantasy, and she creates a universe where these titles make sense. Also, she was doing this to make her world work long before the current craze made it an “in” thing.

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I’ve read a couple of her “older” novels and enjoyed them.
Her recent ones? I haven’t gotten past a few chapters.
Her pronoun use wasn’t an issue.

I’m more into a “guy” type of sci-fi.
[Too many books today, have all women casts; or many women in leading roles].
My current favorites are Jeffrey H Haskell[Grimm’s War Series);
Stephen Renneberg(Mapped Space Series) &
Joe Abbercrombie(The First Law Trilogy - an Adult Dark Fantasy Series0

Don’t notice Any pronoun issues.
All the above have men woman and “others”.

I’ve been reading science fiction and fantasy since the late 1960s. Our presentation at World Con 1984 got “best in workmanship” (I was Morgouse Queen of Orkney ba, ha, hah). I have seen the swing from almost all male-dominated stuff until an early 80s swing to feminist overkill, with a swing back to “manly men, doing manly things” in the late 90s and 2000s. Now fantasy is almost nothing but “strong women warriors.” Either extreme gets on my nerves. I am not a fan of military science fiction, though my late husband was so we have a lot of it around the house. I prefer fantasy or lighter science fiction but well-written stuff. Not silly stuff that takes old stereotypes of men and pastes women in their place. Again, that is why I liked EARLY Becky Chambers so much, her later stuff is OK but I prefer her older stuff, and when she goes back and writes short stories in the original universe she set up.

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Very apt description of what’s transpired.
Some differences lately, has been the self-publishing industry; due in part, to the internet.
In fact; I find a higher percent of the self-published authors, to my liking.
Can’t abide by the “formula” writing.
Too much boob-tube copycatting, in what to include: when, where and how much.
You can predict what’s coming; time and time again.
Mainstream, New York Times Best Seller lists, and other tell-tale signs of routine by rote.
For example, 9/11 will be explained away - as being accomplished cave dwelling box cutters.
Who reads this stuff?

Yes. Early Becky Chambers.
PKD anytime; anywhere.
There’s the gold bar for me.
And, to my shame - Edgar Rice Burroughs - I grew up with Tarzan & John Carter of Mars.

Melodi,
Thanks for you reply.
In military science fiction; the Grimm series and Mapped Space series referred to earlier.
Michael Mammy had a good Planetside series, and his recent The Weight of Command was ok.
P. A. Piatt’s Abner Fortis, ISMC series is ok as well.
Ted Rush’s[West Point war vet], Spirit of the Bayonet, was a stellar performance in military sci-fi.