Pope Leo XIV : The church must not retreat into its own religious certainties and convictions

I have no words - except that precisely opposite might be more effective and true in this time.

“Dear brothers and sisters, let us seek not to retreat into our own convictions and religious certainties, but to remain open to an authentic relationship with Christ.”

Leo XIV says we shouldn't 'retreat into our own religious certainties' - LifeSite Article: by Robert T. Morrison

Pope Leo: ‘Discard religious certainties’ – A crisis of faith or a call to openness? Video: by Frank Wright

If you can divorce the people from the Holy Ghost you divorce them also from the Father and Son, which is what they want. What is left are people drowning in confused feelings that are easily led to slaughter banks. Another word for it would be sacrifice, they are bringing it all back!

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this is pure heresy. this sentence: “but to remain open to an authentic relationship with Christ.” implies that one does NOT have an aut. relshp with Christ, so has to remain open… and in his ‘view’ this contradicts (“but”) " ‘own’ convictions and religious certainties".
what kind of ‘own convictions’ does he talk about?
I do not continue, I am tired, but ask a real theologian. maybe Doc. he’ll find 4-5 more points at least. this sentence is a textbook example of 'how to lie and obfuscate piously. just start with ‘dear bros and siss’, they are not dear to him (he would not lie otherwise, 1st lie), and thus are not siblings in Christ (2nd lie)… maybe later I’ll come back to further the plot :slight_smile:

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… that is indeed a very strange utterance. He really should clarify that statement. I’m curious if at any point in the statement does he use the word “belief”. In his mind, or that of The Church, is there a difference between “beliefs” and “convictions” or “certainties”?

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I am tiring of trying to understand or explain the latest and greatest from the Pope and Vatican,. I have absented my mind and spirit from them. Am just handing to the Latin Mass for as long as its available. Should that become unavailable we are down to less than 20 or parishes offering Latin Mass in the entire country.

… Dr. Farrell mentioned the other day that once the Pope allows the ordination of women et al. things … “Here we go… yup, at the moment they do that, ALL their sacraments are invalid …”
At that point within The Catholic Church what church body can declare the Pope non sui compos?
Does The Church resort to wetwork to save The Church? In my cursory reading according to Canon Law there are no “legal” means to remove an Apostate Pope.

… see below … of course, as always, not everything on the InterWebs is true.

If the actions of The Pope invalidate The Sacraments what is to be done? My thinking here is that the invalidation of The Pope’s administration of The Sacraments would then apply down the line and invalidate The Sacraments being administered by anyone “credentialed” by The Church. In the thinking of The Church then, if The Sacraments of The Church become “invalid” via an apostate Pope would that also immediately invalidate all of those “credentialed” by The Church and also invalidate their administration of The Sacraments?

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Local groups have been creating their own refuges and services for Latin Mass and other sacraments for several years now. Wouldn’t be the first time this has had to be done, it exists within cultural memory in Ireland at least.

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… Aren’t the local Deacons able to conduct The Mass and administer The Sacraments when there are no Priests available?

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From what I understand, TLM operates off a 1917 (Pio-Benedictine Code) canon on the subject, Deacons can only distribute communion or officiate at baptisms using Rituale Romanum (and only with Bishop or Parish Priest permission, and only on in extraordinary circumstances, otherwise if the priest is available then they don’t do that. They assist the priest on the altar such as chanting the liturgy and can handle the chalice. Pretty much everything else restricted in TLM is as at 1917 Canon Law. Post Vatican and and post 1983 Canon Law when Canon changed Deacons have more authority to distribute communion, and officiate as witness at a wedding or baptism but again with permission and only in extraordinary cases. Still not allowed to give out blessings, conduct communion/confirmation rites or hear confession.