SO...are we ruled by a Constitutional Democracy (Republic), a Corporation, or CeeOooGee?

#1

Been thinking for about a year, we are ruled by CeeOooGee, but wonder what others are thinking. At this point just not sure and am always on the look out for the deception - the truth of the matter. These are a few examples:

These Administrative Orders, rather than the legislative branch, have overwhelmingly been used by at least the last 3 presidents to govern the country. Like a Corporation.

The courts appear to have been operating as a military court: Guilty - prove your innocent rather than Innocent until the state proves your guilty based on the evidence.

FE-MA is the arm of CeeOooGee. Those who live in Western NC and TN have a lot to say about federal management - not helping, not supporting just control who gets what and when…

In the last few years Rights guaranteed by the Constitution seem to only apply when suits someone’s purpose.

The president does not have the right to police and administer departments that Constitutionally fall under the Administrative branch - enforces the law?

4 Likes
#2

What do you mean here? I’m not trying to be rude or insensitive but we have 3 branches, Executive, Legislative and Judicial, are you referring to the Legislative branch?

If so the only check the Executive gets over the Legislative is the right to veto any Law passed by the Legislative body commonly referred to as “Congress.” In recent times President’s have simply ignored Bills, letting them sit indefinitely on their desk. The Executive Order is only assigned to and only has jurisdiction over the Executive Branch of Government. POTUS CANNOT directly order any citizen, Legislator or Judge anywhere to do anything by Executive Order … PERIOD! He CAN however, order everyone in the IRS to stand on their left foot only for 20 minutes a day in order to fill some sort of Presidential Physical Fitness program for Executive Branch Agency employees.

I believe that the COG is the British Corporation that took over after the civil war.

As far as Constitutional Democracy (federation), no idea what this is? The current Government on paper is a Constitutional Representative Republic.

1 Like
#3

First, would like to thank you for dressing me down here. It is true that I was in-artful with my terms and assumed that most would know where I was coming from since a constitutional government, a corporation, and CeeOooGee are subjects this forum, especially the old Gizars, often bounce around. I didn’t make that clear. Also I did type Federation instead of Republic. Fixing that now. A big mistake. Nevertheless, thank you for making me go through this properly (rather than just just an off-the-cuff topic) because am now really thinking there is more to this tri-chotomy than realized.

The off the cuff events listed do not necessarily reflect my opinion, but rather real events that may indicate whom or what is really governing the country.

I mentioned both since many Gizars disagree on whether we are a Republic or a Democracy. I am firmly in the Republic camp, especially since we elect someone to go to the capitol and vote for us so everyone doesn’t have to go the capital to personally cast a vote on everything.

Some on this forum, from time to time, opine that US no longer operates as set forth under the constitution, but rather became a corporation having defaulting on loans to England. Some on this forum have de-citizenized and operate under Equity law like English Common law. That is a poor explanation for a valid complex issue, but we have several Gizars who are very knowledgeable about this. For me, if you have no rule of law; it doesn’t matter which court is petitioned.

The President can pocket veto a bill by taking no action and has been used many times throughout history. All a part of checks and balances among the 3 branches of a Constitutional government, but could also apply to the president of corporation and CeeOooGee operating behind the scenes.

The President/Governor/Attys General issue Executive Orders. In the past they did not carry as much weight and were not used very often - when all three branches of were working constitutionally. The use of Executive Orders began being used too much, IMO, starting with baby Bush, but Obumer and especially OByden used them big time. Disappointed that Trump, by using them now, is strengthening the mechanism. The questions is, since he and several past presidents are using Executive Orders rather than the legislative progress, is that an indication the US is being ran as a corporation as many many Gizars believe?

You are correct that, as far as I’ve been taught, EO applies to all departments under the administration/executive branch. Administer is what the executive branch does. The various departments and secretaries of departments are there because with the modern government - it is too much for one person - the president alone to do it all. He remains in-charge and responsible yet delegates, and thus we have bureaucrats who run government and disregard the 4-year politicians.Is that indicative of a constitutional government, a corporation or CeeOooGee?

You will get no argument from me there, and yet OByden did exactly that and his EOs were followed even when they outside his purview. It begs the question: are we a constitutional government, a corporation or is the military (CeeOooGee) running things behind the scenes?

Now this is interesting. Never heard that before. Not that the US defaulted on an English loan, but that COG is a British corporation. Continuity of government today began when during baby Bush’s term and 9/11. It was instituted by Liz Channy’s father; then vice-president. Dark Journalist made a bunch of excellent podcasts on the subject a couple years ago. Yes recently it has been let out that Fee.ma is part of it - since all it does is manage everyone whether they like it or not. Wonder how the NORAD General who assumes leadership when continuity of government is engaged, works together with Fee.ma? There’s a strangeness there, you know. Again begs the question: Is CeeOooGee and the corporation (as defined above) one in the same?

2 Likes
#4

… or maybe …none of the above?

1 Like
#5

I was unclear of what you were asking with your initial post. The President of the US is essentially a CEO of the USA corp no? Can the CEO of a corp issue an order that the share holders have to follow? Where does the jurisdiction of the USA exist, the District of Columbia and any land granted to them by the states, that is it.

You own stock in AT&T, can the CEO of AT&T order you to do something?

I think what you’ll find is the EO goes much further back than just Baby Bushy Tail Coke Noise. Lincoln basically suspended the constitution and is typically associated with how far the president can go with their powers. Kennedy wrote quite a few also. Also, i think you’ll find that a lot of the wording in the Biden EO’s was more suggestive than orders, you can call them mandates i suppose it’s what they are, but to whom? Again, only to the Executive branch, because an EO is not Law, it’s a chief executive order to all their personnel, not to “We the People.” We do NOT exist inside the jurisdiction of the USA. “We the people, … do ordain and establish…”

You me and 11 of our friends get together and buy a burger joint. Now we don’t want to run the day to day operations of the burger joint so we create and organization that is responsible for all of that. Can that organization then turn around and then tell the owners what to do?

So yeah we live in a military dictatorship that was implemented after the “union” was ended, the original signers to the contract walked out on the contract, which voids the contract. When Lincoln attacked Fort Sumter in SC, and let’s be real JOLLY CLEAR here he did indeed order the attack, he was attacking a foreign sovereign nation! He was a lawyer for the Rich and powerful Railroad tycoons. Lincoln created the Military dictatorship to “do anything necessary to preserve the union.” Then before he could mend it all back together at the end of hostilities the British/Pope/Jesuits swooped in an murdered him in Ford’s Theater. Then instead of the fixing, they obfuscated the military dictatorship, full steam ahead. Stanton was the lead Jesuit, making for a real nice transition for the COG to take over. Absorbing the southern states as they came back in to what they thought was the old union.

When you really look at the oddities to which they pursued Booth. Booth was far from a trained assassin and turns out was horrible at making a getaway. Granted there was recovery time for the wounded leg, yes. The team chasing him almost caught him at least twice before he even made it into Virginia, they had to be redirected “on new intelligence,” by Stanton in a different direction for fear of capturing him. The entire assassination was theater, performed by a Bloody actor, wrapped up in a nice tidy bow to give the illusion of moving on. Every single place that Booth stopped on his escape out of DC, except Mudd’s, who gets implicated and found guilty serving life in a Naval Base on a miserable speck of coral in the Gulf of Mexico/America (pick your choice), is either a military base or a Jesuit church today.

The bridge he crosses out of town on was Naval Yard bridge, a known intelligence route in and out of the city. The inn his first real stop, is now Andrews AFB, the 2nd place he stops is Mudd’s. Third place is the swamp in south Maryland, but, in my opinion more likely, it’s really near to a Jesuit church, St. Ignatius Church, Chapel Point; which just so happens to sit damn near exactly geographically in the middle of the original 13 colonies, the oldest catholic church in the new world and sits on the hill overlooking the last crook in the Potomac river before the last straight shot to DC, has been in operation since 1641 and probably has lots of underground rooms in those days. . . . (simpson baby blink in absolute silence for emphasis). The fourth place he stops after finally making it across the Potomac on his 2nd attempt to cross, is now Dahlgren Naval Base. Finally the famous farm where he was shot and killed … is now on Fort Walker Army Base, VA. I mean i guess there is coincidence.

Need proof who was the first president elected to office after Lincoln? Why none other than the General who won the war, who just happens, has come out of retirement (basically) changed his name from “Hiram” … you mean like Hiram Abiff the masonic legend who built the 2 pillars in Solomon’s Temple, yep that one, to Ulysses S.Grant. Oh, like to story about the guy with the same (Latin name, the Greek version is Odysseus) who has to go through really strange and trying ordeals, finally ending up in charge as, wait, what, a monarchical King, wait seriously that obvious, YES! . . .To put it in everyone’s face as obviously as humanly possible… U S G … United States Government.

#6

Yeah, you @Scarmoge have a point. They could all be interrelated, leading to another (tangible) dark entity. Of course as you know, always seeing the spiritual warfare in everything.

Sending you a PM

#7

@MaJonesNedreck You know the source:

Living on a lighted stage
Approaches the unreal
For those who think and feel
In touch with some reality
Beyond the gilded cage

Cast in this unlikely role,
Ill-equipped to act
With insufficient tact
One must put up barriers
To keep oneself intact

Living in the Limelight
The universal dream
For those who wish to seem

Those who wish to be
Must put aside the alienation
Get on with the fascination
The real relation
The underlying theme

Living in a fisheye lens
Caught in the camera eye
I have no heart to lie
I can’t pretend a stranger
Is a long-awaited friend

All the world’s indeed a stage
And we are merely players
Performers and portrayers
Each another’s audience
Outside the gilded cage

Written by Geddy Lee, Alex Lifeson, Neil Peart

1 Like
#8

@Scarmoge Wondering if these 3 all led to the City of London.

Thinking those loans must have come from CofL bankers. If US was foreclosed, the assets would logically be held by a British, CofL entity. Their corporate head quarters in this country would be in DC. The Constitution could have been a cover that is no longer useful. The EOs over numerous presidents with little if any challenge, the stalemate of a uniparty freak show in the Congress, how the courts are not working as set forth in the Constitution. Then there’s the mostly forgotten FastBee56 that took the government books black (CAF revealed) during the Kavanaugh hearings.

1 Like
#9

… very interesting speculations Rheba … definitely a few threads to pull on here. :slight_smile:

1 Like
#10

gonna throw this out there. Confessions of an Economic Hitman : John Perkins : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

I’m not condoning this as an official copy and will not speak to the completeness of this copy, if you want the original seek out the best way to obtain a hard copy that helps out the author or his family the most and buy it that way.

The loans are the way in, no?

#11

Here’s an updated copy by him….I do have a hard copy of the original.

2 Likes
#12

Loans! Hundreds of Millions! Check out this link re: investigation of former TN police officer that goes from buying houses to human trafficking, money laundering, pedophilia rings, narcotics… What he discusses is just a small piece of his overall documented investigation.

https://forum.gizadeathstar.com/t/former-tn-asst-police-chief-shawn-taylor-is-in-hiding-after-documenting-the-hybrid-war-involving-human-and-drug-trafficing-money-laundering-canadian-banks/23176/4

I’ll checkout your link. Internet Archive - they are gutting it unfortunately.

#13

I would also like to throw out in the commons that Allen W. Dulles ended up marrying a Todd girl. Then he himself being with another presidential assassination nearly 100 years later. Spooky. Especially considering, it might not have been Booth that pulled the trigger up in that booth to begin with!! Now we are getting into so interesting speculation, but, Mary Todd may have indeed been the one to pull the trigger herself. What was her religious background…? The insanity was merely a cover for her to retire back to private life unencumbered by Media pressures, assuring safe guard of the official narrative, without having to off an ongoing deep cover operative that was Mary Todd, who diligently performed her long term assignment moving the ball forward toward re-establishing control over those pesky childish upstart colonialist!

#14

Need more evidence it was British Operation, the assassination of Lincoln? What was the name of the play they went to see …

“Our American Cousin’s” …

maggie-simpson-the-simpsons

1 Like
#15

Whoa. That’s interesting

#16

I like limelight, what i posted is just the 15 second outro for 2112.

“Attention, All planets of the Solar Federation … We have assumed control!”

#17

You always give me a good laugh, Scarmoge!!! :rofl: