Sts. Dionysius and John of Damascus on Angels ( "The Demon in the Ekur", Chapter 2)

If you haven’t read this chapter yet, you should. Study it. It is amazing.


You mean amazing in sense of something like this…?

Shiny! About the things or entities that are shiny?

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What we read as “angel” simply means “messenger”, which means humans have invented this so-called hierarchy of heavenly beings!! IMO!! :wink:

Once upon a time, a man who had been in a coma for two weeks, due to a ischemic stroke , for who my late father and I cared for, of course with two other doctors who turned out to be amazing human souls, after he woke up from his coma said the following: "Never go to the “shiny ones”, they are neither angels nor demons but tricksters, a different kind of energy suckers. Although you may feel emanating from them what we humans call peacefullness and love like feelings, those entities are infact projecting on us that when we die or we are inbetween life and death condition , it is only some kind of energy, which they broadcast to us to deceive us and then cling to us to suck our very life giving essence.Many other “specialist” doctors declared my brother already dead, due to the massive brain damage.
That was 14 years ago.
Yes my brother was that man and he is still alive, although with hemiplegia and motor aphasia. He even partially takes care of himself for basic hygiene and nutritional needs. He is still a fighter. As am I for that matter. This is it. You are you. You are observers and perceivers and fighters. You fight and you question literally everything. No one else is to blame for your mistakes, for example I followed orders I had to, or there was no other choice, or etc. It’s all a lie, an illusion and your personal delusion.No one else will come on their one unless you search,and explore for them unless you are already so to say close to them.Do not expect that,for as i said motion is an ilusion,our human delusion.There are no higher or lower helpers.
That what we humans call God is in the people,the humans or is not in them there is no other truth,or infact a factual well…The Thing.
Those others whom we call inhumans,or non humans,soulless ones,they will not help,even if they see you dying on the asfalt of the street.They will just bypass you.Etc…and by the way to repeat myself,although i don’t favor repeteance,this is Orthodoxy. Uncanonicall one,that is.
But that it’s emanating from the core of people,the humans,and from nowhere else,no matter religoin,faith,etnicity or whatever other imposed categorization.
You want to look up to the skies, or heavens by all means do it but,there are no helpers there,only energy suckers,deamons,angels or whatever you call them,they are all to the one false gods.entities etc.To the one,and rotten to the core.
Post scriptum:
And further, all angels, demons, archangels, cherubim, seraphim, principalities, powers, rulers, and so on are in fact, and in fact fallen ones infact, according to the principles of the topological metaphor, aren’t they Dr. Farrell?
If so, they are worthless, and they are not worth worshiping, right? In other words, they are worthless, false gods. Or in third words, they are not us, the people, and have no power and influence over us. In the fourth words, we humans are in direct contact with what we are. And with what is us. Without intermediaries. Whether it was angels, archangels, priests, shamans, politicians or so on.
Yes, and this is actually our actual condition as human beings. Infact. And all of us who are human, but not other entities, intermediaries, robots, servants, messengers etc, or I don’t know what, intrinsically that means deep within ourselves, in the core of We ( The Us) know that. Now don’t We?
And again. This is not gnosticism, new ageism, or hippie style Scheiße(pardon my german) , or aliens,god,s on a high mountain or in a high places like planets in the skies,heavens,i.e. the spheres or for that matter the pyramids , or channelers or I don’t know what.

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You’ve got a lotta nerve to say you are my friend
When I was down you just stood there grinnin’
You’ve got a lotta nerve to say you got a helping hand to lend
You just want to be on the side that’s winnin’

Positively 4th Street
Song by Bob Dylan


So close no matter how far
Couldn’t be much more from the heart
Forever trusting who we are
And nothing else matters…

Never opened myself this way
Life is ours, we live it our way
All these words I don’t just say
And nothing else matters…

Trust I (thy seek… mine emphasis) seek and I(thy… mine emphasis) find in you(yourself…mine emphasis)
Every day for us something new
Open mind for a different view
And nothing else matters…

from the song by Metallica
…and above all …feed your head… :man_shrugging:

from the song by Jefferson Airplane

and it is not you infact…

Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us, Divergent!! :two_hearts: Hugs from this Grandma! Your efforts to get at The Truth of “What Is” is admired greatly!! The more we learn, the more we realize we KNOW nothing!! :crazy_face: We are good at placing ourselves within boxes of Belief Systems, aren’t we?!!

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Yes.We Are.We Are in absence.But like everything else, it is fleeting and will pass and go.And sooner then later. :crazy_face:
Meanwhile while riding the lightning one may fade to black.So don’t ride the lightning. :man_shrugging:
Unless you are shaman,healer etc i.e. one of 5 to 10 humans on the entire Earth.Just don’t do it.Instead enjoy life.

Trust (thy) I seek…and (thy) I seek only( emphasis of mine) for nothing else matters. :eyes:

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