The same McGill that ran MKUltra north of the border for the cia.
“Jordan Peterson: I am ready for my re-education. Who will be my tutor?”
This re-education program doesn’t exist and he knows it. I’m sure it’s being drafted if not already finished. I have a title for it: Minding Your Ps and Qs On the Internet and Elsewhere, A User Guide to Social Etiquette. Isn’t that a lovely long title?
This is what I was taught in school almost 50 years ago:
Not mentioned is the fact that St. Croix Island had very little forest to produce heat for warmth and cooking. It also had little to no game to hunt for food. The new settlement at Port Royal provided a much better location in regards to firewood and hunting game. No mention of citrus to prevent scurvy, a mostly meat diet instead in the Order of Good Cheer.
Scurvy can be abated with iron or any other nutrient that enhances the ability for the body to deal with the metabolic backlog of lactic acid and pyruvate. The vitamin and iron composition in meat would eventually lead to the same generalized anemia, providing the backdrop to scurvy, but onset more slowly. Also, protein and fat intake are critical to prolonging the activity of vitamins. A bunch of sailors on a ship for many months didn’t merely lack ascorbate, but also adequate protein intake. The body will manufacture vitamins denovo provided with protein and animal fats.
Also there are essentially, there is no ways to delineate the symptoms of scurvy from acute leukemia. Scurvy, as such, is likely a single set of symptoms afflicting people in miserable squalor, which is merely one aspect of a much wider issue of metabolism involving months of extremely poor nutrition.
Setting aside the question of scurvy, my personal impression is that the carnivore diet is a politically-driven diet, along similar lines that vaccines are being pushed politically. I’ve heard some health professionals (who have studied diet and nutrition) advise caution with this kind of diet, and they do not recommend going on this path for the longterm, as they feel it can damage the liver. Have you come across any of these cautions in your own research?
I’ve seen cautions but without actual ‘scientific’ proof. Science, like history, is bought and sold everyday. It seems like any diet has its followers and detractors for good or for bad. In the meantime there’s a pill for that. Rockefeller figured this out just over 100 years when he infiltrated medical schools with his money and chemical solutions. After all he was in the chemical business.
It makes sense, politically the elite are ALWAYS heavily invested in creating dichotomies where none exist. Food intake is yet another version of the divide and conquer. Very commonly, over the 20th century, dietary fads and their genesis were exclusively the purvey of large private capital entities. Carnivore seems to correlate with your more right-wing minded individuals, and is appropriately supported by those stooges, like Peterstein and his daughter, who presume to speak for the right. Veganism and it’s offshoots, in my experience, are more often the fascination of progressive types with interesting hair color and a general absence of father figures.
My medical philosophy with respect to food goes like this: no diet is a permanent lifestyle. Carnivore or otherwise are therapeutic approaches to alleviating disease processes. Therapeutic interventions are not life sentences. If one utilizes carnivore or veganism for a period to alleviate a disease sequalae, it should be tapered into a balanced diet after the alleviation. Why anyone would assume that eating in an unbalanced manner for extended periods is a good idea, is beyond me.
I appreciate your points, Bluenose. Like yourself, I’m a lot less trusting of anything that is labelled “science” in modern times – the concept of science nowadays isn’t what it was during the times that I was in university. (And even in my own university days – university sometimes felt like an ideological indoctrination camp to groom government workers who will please Big Corporations. I remember being told, in my science classes, that I had to leave my ethics and morals at home.)
Nevertheless, I’m not very trusting about this “Carnivore Diet” that is being pushed right now (and very aggressively). I’m a bit suspicious of the push – from where is this push coming. Does something feel “off” for you too, or are you inclined to give that diet a try yourself?
There seems to be something going on in the “Vegan Movement” as well, that feels off. (I’ve followed a very strict vegan practice for almost 25 years, and while I don’t bother getting involved in any groups, something just doesn’t sit right, to me, in terms of how some vegan groups that are set up as charitable organizations have been pushing injections – that has been very strange, as it doesn’t make sense to me that there would be such a strong push for injections and the climate change stuff as well – coming from those kinds of groups. I would have thought that vegans would firmly resist injections, given all the animal testing that goes on – and, also that they’d question the carbon phobia of the climate illusion as well – it’s almost as if any group that has accepted government funding for its advocacy, is pushing government propaganda).
For some time, I have wondered about how vegans tend to be portrayed in various media systems – like Omnimatter puts it – interesting hair colour and absence of father figures. And even more than that – vegans are generally portrayed as stupid zombies who are pale and weak. Every year, I’ve noticed the mainstream media runs the same articles, worldwide, ad nauseum, on how some “vegan” killed her baby. Often, I’ve looked at those photos, and not seen anyone who even remotely resembles any vegan I’ve met – rather, always someone who looks overweight and unhealthy, not a vegan, and possibly mentally retarded (who has been taken advantage of for the photo shoot). And people who reject vaccines are portrayed in a similar way – killing their kids for refusing to get their kids vaccinated. So, I’ve been watching these portrayals with interest – and wondering who’s behind that – Big Pharma, Big Meat (in my mind, the same entities – they are linked through the large corporations that own everything).
I can’t quite put my finger on it, but I do feel that the people (I’ve come to a point of wondering, are some of them even people) in charge of organizing what’s going on in our world do not want anyone to be healthy or happy. Pursuing a healthful or joyful lifestyle are under aggressive attack. And so, things that bring us health (e.g., nutrition), and joy (e.g., loving relationships) are under severe attack, and smoke and mirrors and confusion are in our faces from Officialdom so that we stay clear of exploring anything where there’s even the remotest chance of finding health or joy.
I won’t be trying the carnivore diet, given my love of animals, and given also that I’ve survived on plants for so long, despite Big Industry Officialdom telling me (in any way that they can) that I will drop dead of protein and calcium deficiency. I don’t believe a word of that, no more than I believe their lies that I am going to kill my neighbour if I don’t take a vaccine or wear a mask. Or, that the car I drive is going to heat up the planet to the nines.
I appreciate your posting this topic, Bluenose, as I think it’s an important one.
“Does something feel “off” for you too, or are you inclined to give that diet a try yourself?”
I think any idea which comes out of no where like a runaway train needs to be checked out carefully. I grew up on a farm with our own beef, poultry, pork, milk, vegetables and so on. I never cared for vegetables and got by quite easily on mostly beef. Lots of bread(s). Oatmeal porridge in the mornings. Looking back I don’t recall any health issues other than the odd cold/flu bug. I considered food as fuel for the body so why not keep eating simple…food for fuel, not just satisfying taste buds. In my late 20’s I developed a taste for some vegetables and enjoy(ed) them too. In later years I’ve noticed a slow but steady increase in stomach/digestive issues as well as a heart issue. Will a carnivore diet fix these? I’m doubtful, but I did grow up on a similar diet without these issues. Throw things like aging and food preservatives into the mix and one’s health can become murky quite quickly, not to mention all the other influences on health. Our current Rockefeller modeled health industry knows nothing as doctors are trained to treat symptoms with chemical compounds and not dive into causes. I’ve since started another thread on food preservatives. Thanks for your comment.
It sounds like you’re taking a sensible approach in not putting too much trust in Rockefeller approach (although sometimes that can help in case of dire and very temporary need). The trick is to explore some health modalities that keep us away from chronic medications.
The Rockefeller approach trains us, in subtle ways, not to explore or take responsibility for our own health, which, for each individual, is a personal life-long enterprise. It’s all too easy to neglect something, and then run to a doctor for a potion or surgery, and not fix what it is we’re neglecting.
My Mom, like yourself, grew up in a similar setting, animal farm, producing all their own food, and I grew up on a diet very similar to yours, all kinds of meats and baked goods. She was quite taken aback when I decided to venture into my own food explorations. Unfortunately, she developed serious heart disease and diabetes and passed away much sooner than expected. (Perhaps because she relied on the Rockefeller approach – she was taking an insane amount of medications).
A lot of people don’t have any problems on the diet you describe (simple foods, not processed), nor even on the diet that I follow (organic fruits, vegetables, grains, nuts, seeds, mushrooms). I think your thoughts the Rockfeller model are reasonable – I wonder how many peoples’ lives are shortened
because of chronic medications (including the “vaccines” that are forced on kids). And, far too many kids have autoimmune diseases, something I don’t remember seeing in my younger years.