Out of all the scientific readings and topic I got involved in. This one deserves a lot more attention than it curently gets.
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This one is about the good old torus. Its funny how the universe likes that shape.
Now this torus is three dimensional as it manages navigation. But if you posit thinking itself as a form of navigation in a higher dimensional space of concepts then having hypertoroidal structures is not out of the realm of possibility.
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What do you make of the presenter’s communication style?
Not very pedagogical but he has some cool diagrams.
This one is more academic but interesting in explaining how these shamans “saw into reality” when on mushrooms.
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Thanks for this topic! The “shape phenomenon” inherent in the sacred geometry of material and energy systems (including thought energy through neural networks) is fascinating to contemplate.
Alas, the presenter in the first video you shared – sorry, we couldn’t view further than a couple of minutes, as he has an “in-your-face” quasi-aggressive mannerism that makes you feel like he’s going to leap right out of the screen into your room, and not gently either… Beyond that, I tend to be less interested in viewing too many videos, and rather more interested in what people actually think about the stuff they’re posting. (Because, we are finding it very rare, among people we know, to find someone who is comfortable to talk openly and frankly about such topics – people seem to be worried about being labelled as “conspiracy theorists” or other derogatory terms if they think differently than those around them, or than their chosen newscaster telling them what they have to think in order to conform.)
On the question of geometric processes attached to thinking, which brings to mind “shape”: I’ve been wondering about some things – how it seems that psychological (i.e., brain) phenomena seem to tend to conform to physical laws… And even the language used around psychological phenomena, tends to conform to language used for physical laws. Take the words “shape” and “conform”, normally physical and geometric concepts, and how they are applied to psychological concepts, e.g., “shape one’s thoughts”, “shape public opinion”; “conform to mainstream ideology”, “conform to group think”. Thus, the idea of social “conformity” comes from “shape”. What is “conformity to social pressure”, a shape caused by some pressure. Seemingly right out of physics!
Interestingly, within the community of those who discuss ideas of “intelligent design” – one tends to wind up with the idea of shape and morphology (biological or engineered) as being a determinant of function, regardless whether at a cellular or organelle or entire organism level (or, likewise, in a machine, regardless of whether one is talking about a tiny sub-component or the entire mechanism), and some people within that community seem to be convinced that (intended) function precedes the design of shape/morphology, regardless of how far down one drills in the componentry. (And, I find that thought train fascinating to contemplate – whether the designer be human, non-human, or divine).
Even musical (sound energy) theory draws upon “shape” – where “minor” chords are contracted sounds (and the more one contracts a chord, the more dissonant the sound), and “major” chords are expansive sounds, and there seems to be a divine balance between contraction and expansion that affect one’s internal biological responses to sound waves. We have found Dr. Farrell’s related ideas on Affektenlehre to be very interesting.
There is a lot of interesting stuff within this fascinating topic. Morphology, structure, shape, function, contraction, expansion – applied to thought, which is tied to an energy system (consisting of micro- and macro- components) that can be “shaped”.
Where have you been going with some of your own thinking on this topic?
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thanks for sahring all this, abellache!
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Thanks for the interesting ideas. I will need some time to properly structure what I know about the topic.
But in very quick answer, the cortical columns of the brain encode a pinwheel structure. Consisting of a point and an orientation for each cortical column.
The structure is “lifted” from the retina which recieves neural activations to the cortex through a series of processing steps that ressemble signal processing.
This can be modeled using topological geometry and particularly the structure of the helix. The helix is an orientation that changes depending on the height of the column. Columns are connected to one another and may influence each other’s orientations.
In terms of navigation, there are cells in the hippocampus that encode places and that map any place using a hexagonal grid.
Overall navigation in a space is built using these two structures that can be incorporated into a larger hyperdimensional one like the ones the video shows a bit too quickly.
But to your point I think music is probably processed in a similar way. Many structures keep coming back a lot in nature
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It is interesting how different people think about a complex topic like this in different kinds of ways…
I don’t have any deep background in neurobiology, superficial at best, and my thinking is thus on a rather more simplistic level, perhaps more on the “spiritual” (unseen) realm, which I am wondering whether that behaves geometrically as well (i.e., thinking again of our language: “thought patterns”, “behaviour patterns”).
I have come to believe that we have way, way, way more than 5 senses – in school, we’ve been taught we have 5 senses (and what you have shared about your thinking about the orientation of the cortical columns of the brain being “lifted” from the retina…, were you thinking about our how our brain processes visual information that is taken up through our “sight” senses?).
Our brain processes information through these 5 senses (sight, sound, taste, smell, touch), plus the other senses we have but haven’t been taught, including the realm of telepathic senses (all of which are also processed by the brain, at least for those who have not allowed the societal desensizations processes to take over our minds). I do wonder if many of our senses that have been dulled down can be reactivated, and the posting of (and thus prompting some musings of) your topic really does give me to wonder whether any of the principles of sacred geometry of visuals and of sound (and even other senses) can be used to help with this process. (Ditto with things like scents – as people use essential oils for healing, and one mathematics artist in Australia is now marketing a floral product he believes conforms to sacred geometry in the realm of scents).
I can’t pretend to think about this topic in a physical way, like you are, as I lack deep knowledge about neurobiology, but, nevertheless you have introduced a really fascinating topic. And I’m wondering about geometry of thought. And, I’m also wondering if the artificial intelligence systems (something about which I know next to nothing) are designed to process information geometrically as well. And, how does the geometry of human thinking differ from the geometry of AI.
BTW: There is a bot on one of our search engines that writes essays on topics that are entered into the search field, and I have noticed this bot is often incorrect in factual information… and leaves out other important information. Well, I suppose humans do that too…