This one might not be to everyone's 'taste'. Disclaimer: I am not a medico, so nothing here is to be taken as serious medical advice

#1

Just what should we humans eat in order to remain healthy in all aspects.This interview certainly challenged my assumptions! I am a carnivore and always will be, but I do eat fruit and some vegetables too, but meat does constitute a fairly large and constant part of my diet, and always has. At 70 I still function well enough, and my life has been free of disease. I don’t get colds, have never had to take medicines for anything. I won’t change much after seeing this one, but I might try more meat for a month and see what happens. Tough call though…I do like pasta with my meat sauce hahahahaha :slight_smile:

Anthony Chaffee on the carnivore diet and plants trying to kill you

#2

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on diet. That’s a fascinating topic, regardless what diet one chooses for oneself. I’ve been interested in the diet question for years, the different narratives around it, and the historical roots, also the historical divisions among people who follow different diets. There’s something “mysterious” buried in that history that I can’t quite grasp, as a lot of people don’t want to talk about that topic, and then the narratives are often shaped by industries (similar to how the pharma issues are shaped by industries).

I’m curious about what previous assumptions you had that were challenged by the interview that you posted?

(We follow a strict “vegan” practice, for many years, quite opposite from the carnivore diet, and we’ve come to similar conclusions that you have about meat in your own diet – that the plants have not harmed us. We’d never return to our previous meat-laden diet, because of our own experience with the plants. So, for us, the question is not about health, it’s about something else.)

My guess is that commercial industries are behind various diet narratives, and, in the end, we’re all left to choose for ourselves. The history of Canada’s Food Guide (developed and implemented after WWII) was shaped by large food corporations, and then brought into our education programs. Official narratives around food were shaped by large corporations, and it’s great that people are peeking behind the curtains of these narratives.

#3

My assumptions are pretty much what most would assume…yeah, I eat meat, but I also eat vegetables and fruit, and carbs too (bread, pasta mostly). I have no fixed ideas on diet, though I do follow the ‘rule’ that a diet consisting of foods of all colours is good…so, I include veggies and fruit of all colours, and red and white meat. Nothing I do is extreme, other than avoiding sugars and seed oils. I just found the vid I posted ‘interesting’ especially the suggesting that meat and water only is a ‘good’ diet. Maybe a month of just meat and water as an experiment might teach me something; it would bore me to death perhaps as well lol :slight_smile:

#4

Thanks for sharing your thoughts about this, and also about your own practice. I think your practice of tending away from extremes is pretty sound. We’ve been fascinated with nutrition for years, have had our noses into many books, and so this topic gets my attention, being one of my special interests. My own “intuition” nudges caution with the “all meat” experiment, after having heard several doctors and nutritionists (including one who leads an online clinical nutrition course that he designed for medical students) talk about how hard certain meat heavy (e.g., “keto”, “paleo”, etc.,) diets can be on the liver and kidneys, and possibly the brain over the long term.

The water part is interesting though, as recently, Canada’s Food Guide has been changed to recommend water as the beverage of choice, and we think that is sound advice. Many years ago, I went to a fasting clinic in Santa Rosa to participate in a 2-week all water fast (no food). For me, that was an incredible learning experience, and I came out of there feeling like a million bucks. I met a lot of people there who were fasting to try and heal various conditions (high blood pressure, obesity, diabetes, cancer, heart disease, autoimmune conditions) and it was amazing to share this experience of a supervised water fast with them in a beautiful setting.

Sometimes we are impelled to experiment, as you say, to teach us something.

It sounds like what you’ve been doing up to now has worked well for you, and the nice thing about dietary experiments, like the one you’re thinking of, is that you can come off them immediately, as soon as your body nudges you that something doesn’t feel right.

Thanks again for sharing, and all the best with your experiment. (If you do decide to try that, I’ll be interested in your candid feedback about your experience, as I don’t know anyone who has tried that).

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