OMG, what the hell is going on?!
This sure pushes the possibilities to further extremes, but also cuts them in number. I’ve not seen anything like this; not even Watergate…
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Pushing the envelope… just how far can this cast of criminals go?
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There’s now only 2 possibilities:
#1 - This is the greatest theatrical presentation the planet has seen since the beginning… It’s ALL a show; totally & completely, meant to bend minds to a level I can only imagine.
#2 - Trump has something (item/info unk) that endangers an entire lot of people, across the spectrum, in which the opposition must make sure remains secret, regardless of cost. (If I have to pick the original revealer of item/info, etc., my money would be on Roy Cohn.) Insurance? IDK.
In both cases, I’ve no doubt that Trumps’ ‘entire’ lifeline and lifes-blood has been threatened.
Would love to hear opinions on either or both. I can only think of 2 main tactics (not reasons). All the others led back to these 2 in the long run.
Make of this what you will.
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Is anyone entertaining the possibility that they just didn’t pay their taxes?
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Of course, but other POTUS’s have done same and never the uproar as we see now.
More than taxes, I think. Association(s) with certain people, IF this is the true scenario.
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This sets a precedent for future filings and cases.
Trump is not going to hurt from this, but others will now that the rules are being revealed.
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Like in NFL football, the referees could call holding on ANY play.
They all do it.
As the saying goes, “Only little people pay taxes.”.
“They” all do it.
And “they” all know it.
Those tax havens, off-shore accounts aren’t small - in ANY numbers.
Those that play, and the numbers they play with.
Is this a message… to all those “Players”?
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No modern President has the same business empire Trump has…and they ALL published their tax returns to prove it.
There are no formal entities for Obama, the Bushes or Clintons that are analogous to the Trump Organization that was convicted in this trial. Not even The Clinton Foundation.
The other ex Presidents (and the current one) are all corrupt in the old fashioned way for people of their class and station.
Initially, this happens by way of political donations, but as power and longevity in those executive roles goes on, so do the massive fee’s for speaking engagements from Wall Street, high paying think tank or corporate board jobs, jobs and opportunities for their family and friends, donations to their charities, etc.
Trump and family is also eating out of that same trough…but the scope and opportunity for corruption is obviously much higher if you have business interests all over the world before you got into politics.
If you* care about Hunter Biden’s laptop, but don’t want to know about Jarrod’s $2billion from the Saudis, or Ivanka’s highly conveniently timed Chinese Patents, I have a bridge to sell you.
*not you specifically, thebeav
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Pay to play, the American and new world order way…that includes certain folks in the IRS circle. Failure to pay results in “creative collection methods”.
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Trump was prepared for his presidency by R. Cohn and Nixon. He is not a stupid man; he must have had his ducks in row prepared before running. The recent court verdict is more a proof of that his TO was simply penetrated by informants/spies etc. than his financial shenanigans.
Jarred and his family are in my opinion one of the biggest mysteries surrounding Trump.
Why would you associate yourself with one of the biggest crook families in RE in New Jersey.?
What did they offer to TO? line of credit? better connections to the mafia?. I doubt that. There is something else. My money is on Kushner family connection to Binai Brith and something I can’t share for now, since it is too much of the HOS even for this crowd here. (I am working on more details in my hypothesis)
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I am confident you are FAR underestimating the Clinton Foundation and Barry Soetoro inherited millions if not in the B’s from his Indonesian adopted father. You just don’t know about it because it does not say “Obama”.
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Rather difficult to admonish or praise those in the upper echelons as their playbook seems quite unlike the one used on us…
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Some really great answers and more questions.
The one question that might drop this all into my #1 or #2 is the question of Ivana.
Is she actually dead, or was she pushed, directed, or otherwise cajoled to go into hiding? This would not be unheard of.
Other side says, if she was truly hit and at this point, I believe she was, then, a hell of a msg sent. Very typically Mob in nature, but anyone can do that.
Yes, Trump’s completely Mob connected & his tax returns would likely reflect that somewhat. Yes, he was ‘trained’ by Cohn. Yes, he was never a Republican, but NY Democrat.
If Ivana is actually dead, then, I speculate Trump fits both categories; he played ball at first, but then reneged. Given his big mouth (reminds me of Patton), TPTB likely want Trump dead & will do what they have to do to at least appear to stop him. Nope, can’t really tell yet, except for USMCA, which puts him squarely on the side of Them.
If by some miracle, after all this and more, Trump pulls a rabbit out of his butt to become next POTUS, I still maintain that whomever is next POTUS is the one who will try to close the door on us.
I’d say the door is already closed, what with all that’s gone on in the last three years, and nothing’s been done to stop the “snowball rolling down the hill” as it gets bigger and bigger…
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Or Trump didnt need to beg for money and sponsors to run as a president.
The fact he had money and lost alot of it while in office should be a clear sign that he isnt playing the same game as others.
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