Wagner Captures Industrial Zone South of Avdiivka / Russian General & Wife Found Dead in Home

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What a load of croc. . . . stating the obvious of there own spun up narrative.

So am gona do the same. Why not right.

A) Like all good Russian , Prigozhin wanted a fast pace victory . The Establishment not so much

B) The musician became f"ing war gods ; Keep in mind Prigozhin gave hope to the mothers who sent their kids to war. He genuinely cared for those boys.

C) whats up with Wagner? : it’s all overt now, no need to keep them in an administrative grey zone the state are bonifying veteran programs . The mans now qualify for full benefits.

D) Who run Wagner ? well the guy with the "Wagner’ call sign hahahahahahah (always been).

E) Am almost certain during the intel head(US/Ru) meeting who took place summer 2021. Burns and his counterpart agreed to rules of engagement : picking a place to fight over > Bakhmut.

F) Prigozhin meddled with the “plan” with his fast pace victory. . . I can’t rule out that he took money from DC to ferment something against Putin( smoke out discontent) might be 4d chess. I wouldn’t be surprise it was financed by the West. IF true he might have just stage the whole thing (his exit),

I liked the guy so that’s my 2 cents. Meat grinder / attrition methods works but are charming heartless.
I would have revolted against Shoigu too. Anyhow the road is clear beyond the Dnieper maybe?
Everyone on the planet was after Utkin it’s like John Wick gone bad. I dunno what to think.
If they are dead , in the eye of the nation they will live on has legends. Long after Shoigu.

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So true ! Putin never looked worry. Made a point publicly to let everyone know he will pardon anything but not treason.

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#23

1k miles front line , its 1/4th Canada width.

@thebeaver

The new Spetsnaz you think ? They are defending their culture. In the age where Civilization difference is a Sin. . . I got alot of respect for those mens. Hopefully the conflict ends soon so the musicians can train the next generation.

The few friends i have in the Russkiy mir assure me they wont let the Federal gov MIC get out of hand to become the US part2. That gives me hope but only time will tell.

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#24

I really have no idea what your point is.
I don’t doubt that Wagner is active near Ukr.
No idea if Prigozhin is alive or dead.

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  • A decorated Russian general and his wife were found dead at his home.
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Take this for what you will…

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Correct me if I am wrong but did Wagner NOT get subsumed by the Russian military after the shenanigans of its (Wagners’) leadership in August?? If so then who are these miscreants??

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You’re correct, they were given the choice to join the Russian forces and swear an oath or to take a hike. But they still make good clickbait…

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#31

As David Straight has pointed about our own government, a lot of this is just SMU (stuff made up).

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@justawhoaman
A lot on this forum of late mixe up “stuff made up” with “high octane speculation”, it used to be the other way around (lol).

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#33

Wait…wait. Wagner, reportedly (on the internet) was rolled into Russian army in Europe but remains active in Africa, as Wagner. You know this because it’s reported on the internet. Of course, none of what this man says can be true. Because he’s on the internet? :roll_eyes: Nobody else here posts articles and information from the internet, or, you’ve 100% verified it’s true. LOL! Nevermind what an independent man who travels the areas as best as possible has to say; it just can’t be the case.

Ok, well, try this one; it might suit your bias.

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“The Internet, all the news fit to print and make up.”

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Do you really believe what you are saying?

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