Well, if I were Roman Catholic, my sympathies would clearly lie with the SSPX, but the problem there is it is by definition committed to those very papal claims that set up this whole problem. But my reason for saying that nonetheless is that they clearly DO adhere to traditional Roman Catholic doctrine as manifest in their practice, i.e., Latin Tridentine rite, traditional vestiture and pieties and so on… the “little” indicators that they are at least intending to uphold their understanding of tradition. (We’re back to Dr. Tiller’s version of intention again.)
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This is the wheat from the tares era. It is a complex issue to tease apart, interminable argumentation. While that is continuing, the Church is separating into the pre and post Vatican 2 camps. The Church will decide where their respective faith and hearts lead and as at the Siege of Carcassonne, let God decide who were the true Christians. Local Latin Mass communities are growing in numbers and membership. Who cares if consecutive Popes in error or the entire curia, the College of Caridinals, Synod of Bishops, the various Congregations continue to dissemble and “count” their theorectical angels while they do. Catholics are confused, dubious and distrust the evisceration of the cathechism and magisterium. A reset is underway which reverts the Church to pre-Vatican 2 status quo while radical it is not schismatic , but the proponents of changes since Vatican 2 may well be. In the end, the clergy guide and provide for the sacraments but the Church’s members own their resepective spiritual development in the faith and their individual relationships, with the Divine.
I suppose if I were a Catholic and went to a Latin mass, not understanding the Latin verbiage, it would seem like a magic incantation. My faith in the whole experience would be the take away.
Modernity be damned…
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I think it will go MUCH deeper than a return to the status quo ante Vatican II… that will solve nothing… Vatican II is the direct result of Vatican I, and that in turn the direct result of older decisions.
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Guess that leaves me out…,
“ Consequently, every man must be a member of the Catholic Church in order to save his soul, and there is but one baptism as the means of being incorporated into her.”
… me and you both. Although me and my peeps do have a patron saint.
Saint Justin Martyr
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Yeah understandable, he seems to get it….the cause of ideas is a tricky one.
Then Justin told his own experience:
"Straightway a flame was kindled in my soul; and a love of the prophets, and of those men who are friends of Christ, possessed me; and whilst revolving his words in my mind, I found this philosophy alone to be safe and profitable.”
Unfortunately safe wasn’t in the cards
however, profitable certainly was over the millennia for those taking and promoting the narrative as true.
A very good patron to have… one of the very first church fathers I read long long ago in college.
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E. Michael Jones take on Life Site News, among other things.
Interesting, thanks for posting. Never really understood the workings of “The Club of Rome” though few escaped its impact on hindering and helping development of civilization.
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