What's It like Living In China?

Interesting point of view.
He certainly is convinced of the truth, with which he speaks.
Speaks to the Social Credit System, as…
Much Ado About Nothing!

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A friend visited China last year with a group of retired professionals. He was quite impressed with the modernity features and cleanliness of the large cities. The people they encountered were all very polite and friendly.

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Another perspective. The following quote is from a recent X post by British independent Journalist Jim Ferguson . Click on the X link to view the accompanying short video
https://x.com/i/status/1989983450636435560

THE CHINA MODEL IS HERE — AND THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE
A chilling look inside Shanghai’s AI-powered surveillance “Urban Brain” system — the blueprint for the social credit grid spreading across China… and soon, the West.
In Pudong, a single control room can monitor every resident in real time:
• Every building mapped
• Every vacancy tracked
• Every elderly person living alone logged
• Every movement recorded
• Every behaviour scored
And it gets worse.
Trash not sorted correctly?
Cameras catch you from three angles.
Park in the wrong place?
Your violation is uploaded instantly.
Residents themselves are enlisted as watchers — snapping photos, reporting one another, feeding the central AI.
The system then auto-assigns punishments and sends enforcement teams out via mobile app.

This isn’t policing.
This isn’t governance.
This is algorithmic control of human life.

Chinese state media brags that police can now identify every person on the street within one second.

This is the model global elites admire.
This is the system the EU, WEF and UN are openly “studying.”

This is the digital architecture Western governments keep calling “smart cities.”

It is nothing less than an automated dictatorship.

The warning is simple:

What you see in Shanghai today is what they want for London, Ottawa, Berlin, Auckland and beyond tomorrow.
Stay alert.
Stay awake.
Stay free

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Chinese are using uncomfortably meat-sack packed humans; acting as temporary algorithms
[being awarded blips on a screen]; until the Chinese showroom-floor-robots, take their place.

Fortunately, highly place CCP Members; are being excluded from “Hoi Polloi surveillance” zones.
Until, the in-fighing starts eating away their algorithmic “excusion zones”
Then, “THEY” too, can enjoy the rule by algorithms.

Until the Red Communist algorithims; remove ALL useless “meat sacks”.
The same old story, that never tires of being repeated…
AND then “THEY” come for…
“YOU”!

{News Flash! Chinese to deploy battery-swapping humanoids for patrols along …}

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The surveillance spotlight is available for use and abuse, act your role appropriately.

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Our friends described to us how they no longer want to visit China (a place they love to visit, because they could not tire of studying ancient Chinese culture). But now, they said that “foreigners” (even people who were born there and left), are not given access to algorithms that allow the phone to access money that they’d need for their travel expenses — I’m not sure how that works (as I don’t have a mobile phone), but to me, the idea that one would have to be bound to a mobile phone (and thus to algorithms that can be turned on or off by some unknown entity) seems somehow anti-human. I’m not sure if there’s any kind of opportunity for cash purchases there, and whether that could restrict someone who wants to travel freely throughout the country?

I feel sorry for people who live trapped under those regimes – and very concerned that there is no resistance here for the same kind of regime that is being organized to descend upon us. People are so utterly tethered to mobile phones that that stage is going to be easy for those organizing the transfer, and we will be in the same situation as the meat-sack packed humans that you describe, “acting as temporary algorithms” until replaced by robots. These mobile phones are the keys to making all of that unfold.

The smart cities have already been brutally put in place with gargantuan obscene construction projects – ugly high rises everywhere, with super tiny living space, designed to pack in the “meat-sack packed humans”. That is why this artificial immigration influx – to fill those high rises – otherwise you’d have an obsene amount of empty high rises standing empty all over the place. People were told that their cities MUST build these high rises, because of a so-called “housing shortage”. Naturally, there has been no housing shortage (just that no one can afford the existing available homes because of artificially engineered inflation), and hence the immigration to fill all the ugly housing that’s been imposed by whoever owns the construction industry and the politicians.

Whatever is going on, it seems that the CCP model lurks in the background…

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YES!
It’s a Chinese product being exported to other governments.
Technocracy’s GovTec; with Chinese Characteristics.

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Yep.
Like the old and highly popular fairy tail…

Little RED Riding Hood, asking Grandma,
“My Grandma,
What BIG HIGH RISES you have?”

Grandma CCP peplying,
“All the better, to enslave as many of YOU!
As possible - WITH!”

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I am going back to few statements by Jorjani on the Danny Jones show, where he talks why only Chinese are allowed to the dark side of the Moon? He thinks because they follow the protocol of control and surveillance, that actually comes from “up there” and not from our domestic globalists.

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That is very, very interesting that you mention that, QVBB.

We had another friend, a dear friend, Chinese-speaking Malasian friend (who used to be a civil engineer there), who mentioned something curious to us, shortly before he passed away: He said that people (presumably in his communities) in Asia thought of people from other parts of the world as being “Aliens”.

He was fascinated with books about aliens, and he said he couldn’t talk about his thoughts with anyone. He died around the time we started reading Dr. Farrell’s books, and we had never given aliens much thought in the past (both of us Mr. and Mrs. being conventionally educated). At this point, though, our minds are open… We’ve found, generally, that it’s hard to discuss, let alone even explore, such subjects with most people, and our one friend who could have shared some of his own insights has now been taken from us.

Incidentally, the USA IRS also thinks of, and refers to, some people as being “Aliens”…

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You could make that part of a vidchat question?

Lately I’ve latched on to comparing the shaved/bald look on men as the alien look, especially media interviewers and some of their interviewees, especially those with odd shaped skulls. Gives me the willies…

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We’ve never been to China, and so we enjoy when others share their varied experiences.

Mom went many years ago, and enjoyed herself thoroughly, and could not get over the rich culture.
Our Chinese friends used to go a lot (before some recent policy changes making it more difficult for them to access money), as they are fascinated with Chinese ancient culture and art, and felt they cannot study the ancient culture from a book – they need to be there in person. We, too, are developing a deeper appreciation for the ancient culture and wish we could travel there too. (Alas!)

A couple of non-Chinese friends travelled there a few of years ago, for a lecture tour, and came back full of praise for the culture they encountered. They shared profound insights about the beauty they felt was embedded into the culture, even despite the harsh governing regime. And talked about beauty in the friendliness as well, how they were treated by their hosting groups along their entire tour.

We love to compare the first hand experiences of people we know personally, with what we’re reading, and we often find that the first hand experiences are very nuanced and reveal much in the way of context.

While your friend encountered polite and friendly people in China, it’s been our experience as well, with Chinese friends who have emigrated, how polite and friendly and intelligent and appreciative of culture and beauty they are, and we feel truely blessed with these friendships. And don’t even get me started with the amazing cuisine! (All of them, even the non-vegan ones, know how to whip up incredible vegan dishes, based on ancient Chinese cuisine, and we’ve been floored with their culinary talents.)

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… Tiananmen Square was not so long ago … only 1989.

… You’re right! I never really noticed. :slight_smile:

Would be quite interesting to know the thoughts of the bystanders. Some can be gained from their facial expressions. “Guess I’ll drop that idea of democracy.” “Not so smart, these folks.” “Guess I better be polite and friendly from here on out, especially to tourists.” “It wasn’t too long ago millions of our countrymen were killed for a cultural revolution.”

… don’t worry about the few hundred that burned to death. We have plenty people … and no criticize our glorious ChiCom government. I would love to hear the argument that shoddy building construction and the corruption connected to it constitutes an issue of national security.

I read this quite as “belief efforts”…

“anti-China forces are spreading false information, maliciously attacking the government’s —relief efforts—, and inciting social division."

A Chinese linguist, born in Hong Kong, who escaped Hong Kong last year to settle in England, told us that he felt that if he had stayed there, he’d be dead. He certainly wasn’t singing praises for the brutal governing regime, and nor am I.

As for my sharing about friends travelling back to experience the vestiges of an ancient culture much of which has certainly been destroyed and replaced by the regime there (including the housing that has a whiff of the socialist post-war housing in East Germany) – it is not to deny any of the brutality going on there. It’s more to contribute thoughts to the question: What’s It Like Living in China?

I don’t know – in all honesty, I do not know what it’s like for anyone living there. The only thing I know is what it’s like living in my own body. That’s it. And most people who have never lived in, or travelled to China, could not answer that question with any great confidence either. I do know what our friends have shared about various aspects in the contexts and frameworks of what they’ve shared. That’s my window into that question, and it is not a binary black and white question. Anyone born in China is surely traumatised by what happened in Tiananmen in 1989 for life. But that does not negate any longing for, especially the ones who left, a revisit into the ancient aspects of their culture – the ancient classical Chinese music, the ancient classical gardens, the ancient culinary and textile crafts, the ancient calligraphy, the ancient martial arts, the ancient and very intricate architectural styles, the way they use space in their art and gardening and music, the language itself, and ancient texts including ancient Buddhist texts. Beyond the smallest glimpses you’ll get in North America, like the Lan Su Garden in Portland, I can well appreciate why our friends would take holidays in China to immerse themselves in the ancient arts. Art like what they have experienced in aspects of their culture is well worth preserving, contemplating, and appreciating.

I can appreciate why friends have returned to China to immerse themselves in cultural studies, especially in the arts – because, in Canada, we don’t have much ancient culture on that level. And the sheer beauty of their art.

One thing I know for sure: whatever is happening in China, I am not going to start abusing our friends over it, as they are already traumatised for life. A similar regime is seeping into Canada, and that is very troubling, especially given what has happened to Canadian politcal dissidents in the last few years – Canada has dealt with them brutally, and they’ve all been made “examples” to the rest of Canadian society.