Originally published at: https://gizadeathstar.com/2024/11/yes-but-who-is-being-teleported/
You may remember the late 1950s science fiction movie The Fly with David Hedison and Vincent Price, or its 1986 remake with Jeff Goldblum and Geena Davis. In both movies, a scientist is trying to revolutionize transportation systems by creating teleportation, and decides to test the device on himself, attempting to teleport himself from one place…
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“Over time, and several such teleportations (copies), the copy will be considerably degraded from the original, conceivably to such an extent that it is different than the original.”
This was precisely the problem in Timeline. Based on Michael Crichton’s 1999 novel of the same name, the screenplay concerns a team of present-day archaeology and history students who are sent back in time to medieval France to rescue their professor from the middle of a battle.
This problem was labeled “transcription errors” and the financier behind the project brushed this issue off like you would a pesky fly.
The movie was released in 2003. Another ‘warning’ from Hollywood?
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I can’t say I’m anywhere near educated on the entire problem of how to transport something over space without time. But the little bit I do know here may first include the immediate problem of the physical world about transporting matter over space without time since as a physical matter requires both time and space to create form - one of the mysteries of Saturn.
But let’s suppose you could scan every single particle and related physics of how matter retains its form, then replicate it and manifest said form into another distant location. Let’s start with the very basic 1st dimensional attribute, the mineral kingdom. In this example, I think it would be quite possible to replicate a rock, but that’s a big maybe because I cannot imagine creating something new without the raw materials of the original blue print. In other words, you could not create iron, nitrogen, silicon, etc out of thin air. However, like a 3D printer, if you had the raw materials in stock, you could reassemble that 1st dimensional rock. But what happens to the original material? Do they become subatomic particles now floating around? Maybe the answer becomes a sort of worm hole?
Perhaps the real issue is not working on the 1st dimension of the mineral kingdom, but anything above that, such as plant, human, etc. That issue is how do you transport consciousness? Since consciousness is not limited to a specific spot of a particular subject, rather it is more or less located throughout the entire body of a subject, how would you essentially separate the consciousness from the matter and then reassemble it back to the body of the subject? The cells that make up a body are part of that consciousness. If we think about humans and animals, the subconscious runs 99.9999% of our body. We do not need to think about how our cells metabolize, acts, respond, etc to the environment it is in. And thank God for that cause people don’t even know how to shop at the grocery store! If they had to think about every cellular process, they probably wouldn’t even leave the womb.
The point I think I made here is that anything artificially made to transport physical matter would unlikely be able to successfully transport conscious matter to another location. Even worse, even if you were to be able to do that, would there be another dilemma of being able to create exact duplicates of a conscious entity? Imagine 30 Klaus Schwabs running around. Or let’s not.
I think the only way to transport something over a distance would have to be something occurring naturally through God’s abilities, like opening a worm hole. But to “scan” and use artificial technology through computers seems very unlikely to be successful.
But then again I really don’t know about this level of science to be educated enough.
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Looks like humanity or at least their scientific part is right now infatuated with a word Quantum.
Quantum, particles, computing, universe and such. So, I have question, where in this whole thing fits so called “observer effect”?
Who will be an observer in the quantum teleportation scheme. Computer, person that designed algorithms of teleportation, God, or the enemies of God.?
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Robert Temple mentions that information travels instantaneously. Perhaps there is a half-way solution to teleportation. The person (spirit, mind, consciousness, knowledge etc) is instantly transported into a blank body grown in a lab or assumed from a population. Perhaps this is what’s happening with some of our space visitors / ancient gods/leaders. No need to dis-assemble and re-assemble. The is certainly not an idea I’d consider well developed…but worth of thought.
Perhaps some new movie title sequels, can best capture’s the essence of - Quantum Teleportation:
- It’s A Mad, Mad, Mad Scientist’s World - AKA - The 21st Century.
Yes I’ve seen the movie… a good movie… particularly if you’re an artillery fan like me, and get to watch those mediaeval trebuchets in action… 
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Wouldn’t the immediate observer always be the person to be teleported?
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i’m younger so my movie reference for this is The Prestige
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Good question. If future AI will be doing teleportation of humans, wouldn’t they be an observer, too?
To be an observer, you’d have to be conscious, correct? So unless we determine “Artificial Intelligence” becomes “Artificial Consciousness”, then perhaps it could be an observer. But I think that’s a rabbit hole hard to unpack.
Additionally, let’s say AI, or rather “AC”, is determined to be an observer, I think one serious issue would become the Mandela Effect very quickly knowing how often mistakes have been discovered with AI. Then again, no human has perfect memory either.
As I write this and contemplate, it seems to me that teleportation could bring up the issue of timelines. If the Mandela effect happens to be true, and one teleports, not only would the subject move time-space, they would also jump timelines.
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When people hooks up to AI with “Neuralink”, and I believe there’s 5 people hooked up as of now( and Musk hopes to have 100 more in a year and 10000 by 2027, if I remember the numbers correctly) doesn’t that mean that AI potentially can flip that connection an use these peoples consciousness to go conscious?
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I am struck by the notion of a smaller scale transportation ie cancer cells could they be isolated and removed or replaced?
cheers phh
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That’s an interesting thought.
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first of all by this physics even photon tunneling has issue [1] as I am aware need to have vertical on the one end and horizontal polarization on the other end the photon so would pass, yet even this is complicated for the current 4-D physics!, if succeed it will mean eg. having delivering dew weapon beams wherever someone wants, pizzoelectric effects too etc. etc., later plasmas too, but coherent genetic spiritual and/or crystal structure that will keep its uniformity think not!?, will see jump room to mars but exiting on the other end as amoeba maybe 
on other hand, more probable solution would be a.i. to help the physics to be rewritten in some 8-D system [2] and through it to be chased photon and plasma tunneling, but again could we pass by the cosmic laws of compact soul and spirit, yeah transporting from morgue to cemetery bodies maybe 
replicator of fast food saw dust fish and chips for granted, even synthetic minerals for the local bijouterie boutique!
to this again, as You’ve mentioned the Time is issue, how it should be addressed through any eventual 8-D physics, for what only paradigm shift is proposed aloud (as I am aware) through the russian scientists, especially as Nikolai Kozyrev suggests that time is an form of energy, in which case the photon tunneling can be achieved maybe also for the soul and the spirit, just bend the time and maybe You will be in other place instantly [3][4][5] while on west the scientific dogmatism resting on the royal’society’consensus due to particular neopagan basis for the current physics its tabu even to be expanded by alternative reasoning what about to be challenged the mainstream one, as in natural so as social sciences as kind of exceptional’scientific’dictatorship seeking to establish own’utopian’directions, so it will take an complete global power shift and removal of the euroatlantic determinism so we would see eventual change ahead!, maybe global economic meltdown will speed up that process!?, just lets avoid geopolitical calamities that could lead to global cataclysm!, Lord Have Mercy!
there was mention of this concept in star trek the next generation. when there was a transporter glitch and the engineer said that the transporter saves a copy of the persons pattern after every transport. that they then use to reassemble, repair and return the person to his condition, scanned before transport and saved in the databanks of the computer.
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my quarter cent on You assertion … altho there are many attempts to tackle fringe theories by their neopagan alchemic system standardized by the royal’society’consensus still star trek mostly project possibilities by “their” mainstream neopagan basis, thus at best man’machine’copy of memories replanted in another soulless cloned body can be replicated after the teleportation!, can “they” anyhow grasp that as for photon so as for plasma thus for soul could be used same polarization think not!, simply “they” are lost in space, especially coz are enslaved by the fallen reasoning bound by delusions ~ grrrr meme comes to mind [1]