Atlantis =Doggerland?

Found this on X, translated from swedish!

"Doggerland

Doggerland it could actually be the famous Atlantis actually…
If you think of Bocksagan, which had a tropical climate, before the earth’s axis shifted.
On the Origin of Mankind, Hel, the North Pole, Odin’s Garden (Eden’s Garden)
maybe or maybe not, one can only speculate
/Secretary

Doggerland was once a land area in the North Sea during the last ice age and several thousand years after the end of the ice age.

The landmass first formed a land link between Great Britain and Denmark.

About 6,000–7,000 years ago, the last most elevated parts, the present-day Doggers Banks, began to disappear.

During the last ice age, the water level was up to 120 meters lower than today and then a landmass, now called Doggerland, stretched where we now find the North Sea.

The land area connected Denmark with Great Britain and it was at its greatest extent around 20,000 years ago when the Ice Age was at its coldest, the area may then have extended as far as the Shetland Islands.

Between Doggerland and Norway there was a channel with sea, called the Norwegian Channel, and between the Shetland Islands and the city of Bergen lay mountains that have now been named the Viking Mountains

Doggerland was probably one of the best environments for hunters in Europe after the end of the ice age with good hunting, good fishing and fresh water rivers.

During the Ice Age there were animals such as mammoths and reindeer.

As the climate warmed, the tundra landscape gradually changed to forests of deciduous trees and the prey animals instead became deer and wild boar

The Great Egg Landslide:

The Storegga landslide is the name of a very large underwater landslide off the coast of Norway at the height of Trondheim that occurred 8,000-8,200 years (sources vary somewhat) ago.

The landslide covered 3,400 km3 of material along 300 km of the Storegga continental shelf and is the largest known underwater landslide ever.

The landslide gave rise to the strongest known tsunami in northern Europe.

Nearest to the landslide, the waves were 10 to 12 meters high, but inside the Norwegian fjords the waves reached 40 to 50 meters high.

Traces of marine organisms have been found after the tsunami in Scotland far up in the Scottish Highlands.

The landslide also caused the greenhouse gas methane to bubble up from the seabed, and thus the earth’s temperature rose sharply during a ten-year period after the landslide.

The Great Egg landslide also led to Doggerland sinking into the North Sea.

Already in the 19th century, oyster fishermen found remains of mammoths and reindeer in the waters off England.

In 1931 a fishing trawler pulled up a barbed harpoon tip of horn whose age was determined to be 12,000 years old and since then fishermen, divers, archaeologists and geologists have made more discoveries that show how people lived on Doggerland and with the help of data from oil companies, Doggerland has been able to be mapped better.

Among other things, they have found a mass grave with mammoths, standing stones, walls, fossilized tree stumps and a probable human burial place.

Fragments of a 40,000-year-old Neanderthal skull were trawled up 15 km off the Dutch coast in 2009.



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Will make a thread about the Bock saga aswell since its a bit connected.

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It is helpful to look at the work of Billy Carson(4biddenknowledge) on Atlantis. Seems it was a worldwide empire which even extended to Mars, so apparently, many sites could be included in “Atlantis”!! :wink:

Great stuff. Thanks for posting it.

Ive seen a bunch of Atlantis material through the years.
And i somewhat agree it was a part of a Bigger global era.

But very few talks or even know about Doggerland although there is actually some real evidence about its existence.

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The Dutch could make more sea walls and raise the elevation like they have been doing. I wonder what they would find? The world could use more flowers that are grown there as well.

Instead of making a separate thread i will add the Bocksaga article here.
Very interesting imo about the history of mankind.

Again translated from Swedish!

"The Bock Saga:

About the origin of mankind, the North Pole, the origin of Santa Claus and Hell (hell located in Finland), Nyland -Uusimaa, Atlantis
Santa comes from Finland or…maybe it’s the all-father it should be instead
/Secretary

According to the legend, it was ordered over 10,000 years ago that the surviving Bock family should release information in 1984 and not before.

It was understood that at this point Human Genetics would once again have the capacity for wholeness, enabling people to understand how to live in harmony with nature and each other and therefore use the information correctly.

In the 1980s, a group calling themselves The Positive Foundation got together to begin excavating an area near Helsinki, Finland, believed to be the site of the Lemminkäinen Temple.

According to the Bock Saga, in the Temple’s hidden halls is a repository of human knowledge and existence on our planet dating back millions of years.

Science has now come to the realization that we are descended from light and sound.

According to Bocksagan, our civilization has just re-evolved to this basic understanding.

It is therefore understandable that Saga should come to light at this time.

The story is about a sound system that was used and understood in detail by many
a thousand years ago – a technique based on light and sound that also incorporated a spiritual understanding of how to work with “nature orally”, that is, “naturally”.

But somewhere in our dark mists of the past, that knowledge was lost and so was our ability to utilize it.

The tale, given as an oral transmission, conveyed and maintained in correct form, via the Ring, the elves’ baits, or the alphabet, the Kela of sound.

The alphabet is in the original Rot (pronounced root) and the slang (Finnish).

The teachings reveal a natural sound code in language, which contains and holds keys to information.

The sound system creates an internal logic in Saga.

It is understood that this system creates a coding in the brain that triggers the genetic memory.

In this way, the story teller can transmit the information, which enables the listener, after 20 years of learning, to take the story forward.

(Actually, there is in the word saga itself – sa meaning “receive” and ga meaning “give” in both

root and habit language – is an understanding that one must first receive before one can give.)

Take is to give (germinate the seed knowledge) and Root is the sounds.

So the Bocksagan is mainly an oral tradition based on the doctrine of sound.

It is not a written tradition, as it must be heard and experienced.

The use of English language spellings to convey the original sounds is a challenge.

For example, the name Odin is pronounced as oo-den. Other __________ Words can have similar sounds but quite different
meanings in English.

For example, the English word “heathen” comes from hi-den (pronounced hee-den), meaning “whole” and “worthy”, and is not

In antiquity, at a time when this knowledge was common, there was a Common Philosophy: A breeding, an information system, a giving system, a ring that created health and
well-being.

Our forefathers understood that this generation would be ready to receive its birthright: the knowledge of our origin, contained in the fairy tale.

The origin of humanity

The saga is a story and a mystery so great that it cannot be described.

Ior Bock released the information about four major periods in Earth’s history:

The time of Paradise, Atlantis, the time after Atlantis, and New Times.

All this knowledge is known as the Väinämöinen mythology.

According to the story of evolution of the saga, which goes back to the first seeds of life on this earth, the seeds grew and developed to a point where the eel was formed.

The eel then gave rise to frogs, which eventually evolved into monkeys.

At some point, the genetics of the monkey and the goat (the goat, also the symbol of the Goat family) were combined to create the first two humans, Frey and Freya.

The saga does not say who was responsible for these genetic manipulations.

This creation took place around the North Pole, where the sun revolved and never set.

Around the pole there was a country that became the motherland.

It was known as Odenma or Uudenmaa.

In the center was Hel, which means “ready”, “home” and “complete”.

The people were known as [I]pi-pol[/] (pronounced pee-pol, meaning “people”).

All knowledge could be understood within Poland
and the ring.

(It is important to note that binary math is based on 0 and 1, a ring and a pole.)

Uudenmaa, Oden’s garden, which later became known as Eden, was located in what is now southern Finland.

It was a tropical paradise and the home of the first humans, known as Aser.

Ringland was created outside Nyland, and within each Ringland breeding system was introduced.

The people who lived outside Nyland were known as the Vaner people, and their language was Van, meaning “One”.

Within the cocoon of sounds that make up the root language was knowledge of how to become one with nature and our plan-et, plan meaning “plan” and et meaning “family” – a family plan to create wholeness.

Men and women were equal.

The man had his story (“history”) and the woman had the miss-story (“mystery”).

Both understood the knowledge of how the light of the sun, known as Odin, enables all things to grow and is everything.

Oden also represented Aserhovet’s familiarity.

A ring, whole and complete, a giving, breeding system, Yehova (“give to Asherhovet”) lay in Nyland, with Hel at its center.

With this knowledge and its proper use, Aser was considered healthy, whole and complete.

(The name Yehova was eventually changed to Jehovah, and “God [good] within” became “God in heaven”.)

From the beginning of Christianity, the pagan system (and all it) has been hunted down and removed or destroyed.

Women were excluded from this new system because much of the misrepresentation, the feminine mystery, had become taboo (“taboo”), ta meaning “to give” (to germinate the seed, which is feminine), b standing for borg (meaning kastel or “castle”), the breeding system, and oo representing Odin the sun and knowledge to make things grow healthy.

Under the pagan system, Shiva represented the sun’s energy reflected by the full moon once a month; the knowledge of the moon and monthly cycles.

The male and female essences – sperm and sap – were considered hel-i (“holy”), and when respected and shared properly they created a healthy and whole I-Moo (“immune”, meaning " in mouth").

It was the woman’s right to choose when she would become a mother, through dreams of Lucia.

This happened on December 13, Lucia Day.

On December 24 Fest-i-val (Festival) day, when the Disas (“Stem Mothers”) were fertilized by Lemminkäinen (the Goat) inside Odenma.

Also on this day, the future Vaner Fathers stood naked on ped-i-stals (“pedestals”) with erect penises, so that the self-chosen mothers could look their “heart’s desire” in the eye and choose
the one they liked.

December 25th was Jule Tide, the birthday of the Sun (not the Son of God).

On December 26, the men selected on the day of the festival had to pass physical tests to prove their suitability to be fathers.

This day was known as Bock-sing Day – now Boxing Day.

However, with the advent of the Christian era, the original meaning and meanings of the language were changed, lost or distorted.

According to the Christian system, respect for and sharing of semen and sap became taboo – in other words, restricted and forbidden.

Consequently, women were denied their natural worth and equality.

Instead of sperm and sap being honored, they were misused and wasted.

Men and women could no longer understand the history and mystery to assimilate
the seed of knowledge, and did not follow the breeding system and create wholeness with Odin.

In the pagan system, certain trees were considered sacred.

Among these were the ash and the oak.

Ancient records seem to show that humans had a lifespan of nearly a thousand
year.

In the time of Paradise, one’s lifespan could have been very long indeed.

When a person died, they were cremated and their ashes scattered around the world.

The base of the ash tree.
The soul could then be absorbed by the roots and ascend through the tree trunk, branches and leaves, to leave this plane-a whole.

This may explain why so few remains of the people of that time have been found.

During the Christian era, these family trees were systematically destroyed.

According to the pagan system of knowledge, Frey was the first Bock (“goat”) and Freya was the first “nanny”, called the Swan.

They understood the alphabet, the cusp of sound.

This then allowed them to understand the reproductive system they were to initiate to ensure that all humans born would be God (pronounced “good”). Frej and Freja had at least 12 sons and seven daughters.

This first family became the Piruet family.

It was headed by Per (“Allfather”) and Ella (“Earthmother”).

The 12th son became the new Goat who mated with the Swan to create 12 more sons and seven daughters.

Freyja and Freja’s first son was named Ra, and the first daughter was named Maya. Ra and Maya became teachers - the king and queen - at 27 years old, and their task was to entertain the hidden pagans with knowledge. But as teachers, Ra and Maya were not allowed to have children.

(It is interesting to note that in some Scandinavian countries, even in the 20th century, teachers were not allowed to have children; if they did, they were no longer allowed to teach.)

Through the descent of the family line, three additional levels of breeding groups have been formed: the Jarlet, Karlet and Trelet lines.

These became Vaner people lived outside Nyland.
From this point the original Buck then mated with a Swan from the Vaner people.

In this way, a second-rank breeding group was created within Nyland.

There were then two groups within Nyland: Piruet and Roset Aser people.

From the Roset family was the 12th son Rabis, who became the breeder of each Ringland and was also known as the Allfather.

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Time of Atlantis

According to the legend, over 50 million years ago, the ancients saw that there was a change on our planet.

Some scientific studies suggest that the first ice age began 65 million years ago, but this timeline is based on techniques that may be wrong.

Legend has it that the first major changes occurred about 50 million years ago, which resulted in a shift of the pole, causing all countries to become ice.

This was known as the time of “All the lands ice” – Altlandis, also known as Atlantis.

Atlantis was not so much a place as it was a time in history.

In anticipation of this great change, Aser set up 10 locations around the world so that the Vaner people could survive the Ice Age.

Afterwards there were 10 breeding systems which became 10 different races of people with 10
different languages, all based on the original Rot/Van languages.

When the ice came, the Aesir were cut off from the Vaner people. Largely because of the warm
the Gulf Stream flowing into the Gulf of Finland, Nyland remained ice-free.

The time after the ice

According to the legend, the second Ragnarök, or the second destruction, occurred about 10,000 years ago when the ice began to melt rapidly.

Aser foresaw what was to come and built boats to hold their people, animals, food and other supplies and sailed to islands high above the sea.

This small group of people who are in the Arctic called their hiding place on

Gotland for Noa-tun.
This was the origin of the Noah’s Ark story.
At this time the temple was closed and Hel was covered in ice.

The surviving Aser people were able to return to Hel about 9,000 years ago when the waters receded.

Hel became known as Hel-sing-ki (now Helsinki) and the original sound/propagation system was re-established.

The third destruction

Year 1050 http://ad.Kr. surrounded a papal army in Nyland and slaughtered most of the remaining Aser.

Everything associated with pagan times was either removed or destroyed.

This period is known as the third Ragnarök, or the third Destruction.

Two families escaped this slaughter: Bockström and Raström (Ra) families.

The extermination of the bloodlines was in fact the very purpose behind the Crusades and the search for the Holy Grail.

The Holy Grail was the bloodline of the King and Queen and all the pagans.
The Crusades carried out by the ruling church continued for hundreds of years.

Part of this extinction – the removal of the Roset family lines – took place with the Wars of the Roses.

In 1248, an agreement was concluded between the Bockström family and Christian King of Sweden, Birger Jarl.

This allowed the family to return to Nyland (Uusimaa), but in exchange for their silence and absolute non-interference in politics - until the time came for the Bocksagan to be released to the public in 1984.

The Aser teachers

Throughout history, the intent of the great teachers has been to elevate the human spirit and goodness (the Godhead) within the human condition.

But in many cases their teachings have
significantly altered over time by certain vested interests bent on exercising power and domination over others.

The names of various Aser teachers are recorded in the Bocksagan.

These teachers were sent out to reconnect the Vaner people to their heritage and to Odin, and many of them were sent over
Worldwide.

At a number of ancient sites, records, carvings and other monuments testify to the arrival of a Caucasian people who were very

They were tall and had blond or red hair, and the men among them had beards.

These people came in boats without oars or paddles, and were regarded as gods among men.

It was also noted that these people came from the North, from the seat of power, and that their knowledge of All was complete.

Some of these Asher teachers are well recorded in history.

They were male and female, because the people needed both to create his-story (history) and miss-story (mystery).

Within the saga, some well-known names of Aser’s family include Buddha, Jesus, Krishna, Mohamed, and Moses (Muse, a feminine reference).

Over 10,000 years ago, according to the legend, it became apparent that human genetics were changing.

Although efforts were made to reconnect the Vaner people, it was predicted that it would not be until the latter part of the 20th century that the human condition would be sufficiently advanced to once again know the information in the tale.

Thus it was decided that the saga would not come to light until 1984, because at this point in time there would finally be an opportunity for man and woman to produce a child who was both internally and externally whole.

It is relevant to note that in the last 15 years children have been born who reportedly have three strands of DNA.

These children are highly gifted and have abilities far beyond what is considered normal for most.

Their psychic powers allow them to even be aware of and communicate telepathically with other children around the world who are similarly gifted.

In the time of Paradise, in each generation the people gathered to reconnect with the Ring of Sound and Knowledge to promote their love and understanding.

With them they had their finest handicrafts, much of which was in the form of gold.

The gold was honored because the fire Sun is within it and it lasts forever.
This was a gift to Yehova.

Lemminkäinen was the name of the breeder Bock.

The Lemminkäinen Temple was created to honor Bock in an area called Tuna, located inside Nyland.

The arts and crafts were fortuna (“fortune”) and displayed for all to see; They were known as art-i-facts (“artifacts”).

Evidence of the Bock Saga can be found in Lemminkäinen’s temple and the Bock Family’s treasury.

According to the legend, the entrance to the Temple is located deep underground, 30 kilometers east of Helsinki (Hel).

The temple was created within a hill, and the domed area at the top was used for ceremonies.

Below this is an area with a diameter of 250 kilometers.

Within this area there is a golden spiral staircase that leads to halls that hold the items.

Each hall represents the lifetime of a Lemminkäinen (Bock).

In front of each hall stands a life-size golden statue representing the Goat at twenty-seven years of age.

The temple became mu-see-them (“museum”), said to contain artifacts dating back to the beginning of human knowledge.

The Lemminkäinen Temple was closed in 987 http://ad.Kr. because the pagan people could foresee that Christian armies would invade in the future.

It was at that time that permission was given to it
remaining Bock to reopen the temple a thousand years later, in 1987.

Before 1987, a group of people got together in a partnership called The Positive Foundation and started digging to reach the temple.

In the foundation’s brochure, they report:
… We were informed that the entrance was sealed with large stone blocks.

In fact, we found three perfectly cut stone slabs stacked on top of each other. The plates were about 5 meters long, 4 meters wide and 1.5 meters thick.

After the removal, we found two at the bottom of the monolith more stones of approx
4 meters x 2.5 meters x 1 meter.

These stones fit the previous entrance just right. Behind these stones we expected to find a large room, a so-called water lock.

However, this room was filled with a cement-like mass.

The team had dug a tunnel that was over 40 meters deep, 6 meters wide and 3 meters wide. meters high, which fell with a slope of about 15 degrees.

According to information from Ior Bock, the hall is to end in a room from which there are three corridors with the middle corridor leading to the upper dome of the Temple.

Unfortunately, the cost of further excavation exceeded the foundation’s budget, and the Finnish government and the social welfare board Museovaristo were unwilling to contribute funding, help or support.

In 1991, the foundation’s last sponsor stopped supporting the project.

Later that year, a geophysical analysis of the site was carried out using an underground radar (SIR) system.

At 25 meters underground, at a coordinate designated by Ior Bock, it picked up a dome-shaped hollow space with a roof, possibly metal.

A picture of the ground conditions at the excavation site shows that only a few more meters were needed
excavation so that a breakthrough could take place.
In May 2002 this had
breakthrough not yet reached.

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