It depends how you define microtones. The whole step ratio of 8:7 represents C to B flat so those are actual tones. However, SOL:FA is G:F at 24:21 in the harmonic chromatic scale (which reduces to 8:7). And so yes, you could look at harmonic F as a microtone since nobody has ever used the frequency value of 21 (scaled up to 336) for F. Pythagorean F is the value Plato specifically tempers in Timaeus, down to the more common 4:3 perfect 4th interval (341.33), and the Sumerians avoided F altogether by using the key of D and an F# at 45 (scaled up to 360). Let me know if you’d like to see the book; I’d be happy to send it to you in a PDF.
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as You can see by the 8th footnote analysis of e’c’m, I am not so interested in alchemic vibes, plus dont have time at the moment for exploration, need to evaporate for long time due to personal circumstances, so Thanks for the offering …
here, I can just speculate ontopic what kind of effects can have variations of neoplatonic juggling with tones and frequencies upon us, but even that is vast field for assumptions, thus no time for that too … tho JPF could be from help for sure, eventually giving right magnifier regards musica universalis and how nowadays neoplatonism epistemologically skews its knowhow through the prism of good vs evil [1][1] lets say towards wrong effectiveness as is postulated [2][2][2-9] if we suppose that the aim is reaching effective science regards eg, music and wellbeing!, and as modern revival of gnostic neoplatonism [3][3][3] I can just say at best is tilting us in limbo, tho not rarely such inertia brings eventually disorientation, or incomplete solutions, kinda unfulfilled aims, on whatever cultural or social level!
so can Music or Art twist perception?, surely!, can any of them open door for feelgood vibe?, normal!, yet could experimenting with it throw us in hijack by demons-anathema-to-them, that for many is not even understandable!, and simply by interest in pagan or neopagan esotery, if someone is not fencing himself with Grace can get hijacked, at least intellectually, but not rarely also spiritually, if we know that manifestation of those evil spirits can come through ‘deir’ thoughtful mirroring, protagora comes to mind, thus be aware what kind of Music or Art is at Your hand and how You are manipulating it!, and when You are doing that to Yourself is risk, what about when tempt others to join the fun!, what as temptation that sprang from You wanted or not by causality reflex is bringing greater graceless feedback!, So do keep high Prayerful Guard even when have shallow analytical approach in ‘deir’ esoterical knowhow, and above all firm awareness that at best its word for apostasy of gnostics, or at worst oblivion of pagans, that You are diving in as info, even done that with shallow will, or just through apocryphal trampoline, even worst if the same is ur pivot for eg. visions [4-3] so dont play with fire coz U could get burnt!, simply when U’ll drop swimming in swamp, expect that something can pull You in, if not to start consuming U!
the problems with neopagans is that ‘dei’ as possessed execute ‘deir’ will, i.e. if the hijack is persistent and by no graceful means someone is cleaned and ‘dei’ are expelled out from its system, whether individually or collectively (as measure by tied bioresonant system), then demons-anathema-to-them are driving those neopagans towards particular goal agenda or whatever need of ‘deirs’, when by the logic of connected vessel theory ‘dei’ are most probably trying to achieve bioresonant wish of many free wills so would reach breach inbetween planes (this and the astral one, and not portal to dimension), as was probably case with akkadians (chaldeans) what provoked the punishment of the great flood, so would be eradicated those who became walking dammned corpses!, and altho now Christianity is above all ‘deir’ influence and we cant be easily driven in acceptance for ‘deir’ skims, still by trickery most probably ‘dei’ are trying to sway us into invoking’d’beyond [1-111][1] agitprop agenda that needs to confine our beliefs in ‘dem’ as wanted needed expected contact coz more profound life in this world!, isnt?, here, the psyop is kind of push towards willing intention for alien contact, and such lust to provoke open door for it!, simply if enough people ‘dei’ think would ask for that such reality will unravel (again) [2-1] tho stupidity rulz in ‘deir’ hijacked minds and as neopagans are even in greater fallacy than eg. atheists, coz atheists can easily change their mind, while the hijacked people need to put extra effort to deprogram ‘deir’ mindset so would escape ‘deir’ own traps!, I’ll suggest turning to Orthodox Christianity will for sure help, but how when forgot what kind of oaths vows and compromises made to ‘deir’ idols, thus need to recheck all that so through Confession to be broken such bonds, when from help would be some good repentance OC practice [3-2/3]
probably ‘dei’ are trying to employ kind of tulpa projecting [4][4][5][5] through ‘deir’ egregore and invoke ‘deir’ aliens [6][6][6] for what dont spare nor money nor authority even risking to be caught in the process coz its done on wide level and by institutional means as disclosure agenda, but overall ‘dei’ cant succeed if we dont take the bait!, what dont means ‘dei’ are not in contact with ‘dem’, nor that didnt acquire tech as earlier so as nowadays [7] but so ‘dei’ would manifest in this reality beyond spirits ‘dei’ need open door, tho which till the end times wouldnt be opened, and when will, it will not be coz our will but of Our Almighty Lord [8] here we can push the logic till nephilim [9][9-6][9] for which OC interpretation is that was word for extraordinary empowered people [10] what would be also more than correct interpretation coz demons-anathema-to-them can parasite on us, but to live among us, as materialized mirage yes, but as beings not!, ‘deir’ echo probably could mirror in our reality also as evil that is hereditary passed from generation to generation if our ancestors left unclean blood behind or we are not Baptized!, but nowadays there could be in question other possible ways for ‘deir’ covert infiltration among us, i.e. clones [11][11][11-(((eureka)))4.] yet how, hm if clones do exist then as soulless would be most hijacked bodies, actually what would mean be aware with what kind of trials&errors ‘dei’ play [12] so would reach ‘dei’ think ‘deir’ messiah [13][13-3][13] who actually will be released (lower realms of existence as dimensions) by Our Almighty Lord and not invoked by ‘dem’ [14] So Do Repent In Time …
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‘dei’ can master opening bottles [1] maybe alien heads in ‘deir’ dreams [2] but portal even to another plane on our dimension, even less dimension itself, its mere houdini alike illusion and nothing else!, simply there are Guardians that dont allow such things, tho as planes we are connected on this dimension, that have logic beyond doubt, tho consistency its always issue, and saying someone could keep open by own will some portal and that to be final at will manipulated star gate alike hole its stupid!, simply Grace will shut it down as is opened if such opening pose risk to our reality!, prove me wrong, even by assumptions!, if we take as pivot the notion that Guardian Angels of Our Almighty Lord are holding all the winds, also dedicated not just to every Soul, but also ologocized forms of ours eg. Village City or State etc., and in my halfliterate humble opinion, indeed by lowering our Grace we are opening space for ‘deir’ entrance [3][3] but in same time those among us that evoke extra Grace upon this world are chasing ‘dem’ like that, and thats why we are at attack as Christians, all!, but especially Orthodox Christians coz stand firmly in fullness of the Christian Tradition … so it would be stupid indeed to fall for ‘deir’ spins&skims on whatever scientific level, but also loosening to the need for Inchurched Christian Life in Feat, not just coz Salvation, but also coz evoking extra Grace so we would fence from and eradicate evil by simple means!!!, So Do Repent and through Liturgical Togetherness
[4][4] chase’d’evil out of our world …
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Not sure what you mean by “alchemic vibes” – perhaps it’s literally just the use of frequency in alchemy (chemical separation). But the phrase sounds a little more pejorative than literal. My work is an attempt to pull alchemy out of the realm of mysticism. Alchemy is a fairly simple endeavor that we’ve painted up as magical thinking. Alchemy is nothing more than purifying salt water or separating gold from a telluride.
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the vibe obviously is neopagan escape from this world!, usually neopagans see this world as fallen per’se, thus need to reach exit through various syncretic means, in alchemical terms to reach the philosopher stone so would break free [1][1] as I can grasp the rosicruian faction of theosophs rolled another approach than the medieval one and through agenda for androgen are seeking perfection [2] in all cases tho chase for deistic apotheosis [3][3] what by all means is utmost total error from perspective of Orthodox Christianity …
now, the problem with many lets say newagers, dont be offended by this label, is that dont seek to learn but hook on some pagan or neopagan trend, usually coz those are like appealing riddle, myself as latent ex-pagan can just say neopagans are quite ridiculous coz till ‘dei’ get to the root of the issue, i.e. that interest or dive in the knowhow and realm of demons-anathema-to-them spent extra time in vain, so usually dont have time for easy exit from that false freedom traps!, pagans on other hand know exactly with what ‘dei’ are having work, and either surrender in submission or escape ‘those’ traps!, simple analogy would be eg. neopagans are like domestic cats for demons-anathema-to-them, while pagans like wild cats so its bit trickier to be played easily!
anyway, its not mine to judge, but even interest in such alchemic esotery (as neopagan vibe) is devastating inertia for the Soul, what about to endeavour in practical experiments!, lets say playing with fire dont need to end always deadly, especially if as pagans know that its deadly feat when trying to master how to become spiritual warrior, i.e. not all pagans are bowing instantly on demons-anathema-to-them, yet as path cant lead elsewhere that under ‘deir’ hood!, and if someone lost ‘deir’ compass those are neopagans coz simply syncretize all pagan knowhow in one fireball, so normally the soul burning is granted!, to be polite, one cant expect that by juggling with whatever occult knowhow at hand will stay unharmed!, here I must get creative so would apologize even further, Please do find time to listen to JayD from time to time regard these topics [4][4] but also consult JPF in the vidchats so would get awaken for the risks and the traps of neopaganism, and how to evade them, but foremost how right after would step on the True OC Path of Soteriological Knowledge …
I see. So my fields of research get me labeled a neopagan. Looks like I was wrong about feeling welcome here.
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wow why You would not be welcome here?, its not per’se Christian eforum, but alternative history technology methaphisics eforum of JPF!, You have one position, me another, lurkers probably inbetween!, as etool its Door for greater thematic information share, tho from time to time JPF gets me by ears, eg. the echo of ApologizaToJPF thread, so he surely will be on Your side till some extend, specifically regards the concepts about Music as vibrational science … me as I’ve said I am still bit illiterate about, thus cant examine anyhow Your propositions than to analyze them as yep alchemic vibe …
simply my position is OC one, and see everything through such metaphysical prism, JPF also, but his touch to whatever pagan and/or neopagan is not per’se through opposition, but by examination and understanding of some system of belief or praxis to share own understanding!, unlike me his approach is far more sweet, while as I can sense by Your impression mine is probably bitter, hm, Sorry if I’ve sound somehow rude, per’se as ex-pagan I cant anyhow judge pagans or neopagans, if Christians have such approach even myself would not escape mine mind traps, but I am more like after the raping of the 1% neopagans that want to skew the free will of all and bring ‘own’ elitist inertia to deistic universalist n’w’o with apotheosis mandate for all, or incineration for those that will refuse to follow, at least through ‘deir’ agitprop had have shared such ideas through eugenics as superhumanity offshoot of darwinism [1][1] which actually is also alchemic reflex for chasing superhumanity in totality as must have for ‘deir’ utopia would last ‘dei’ think forever, probably til upload most of ‘deir’ mineral’man’consciousness in one androgen, becoming one monist cosmic being!?, not that I have issue with that, its ‘deir’ free will to chase whatever ‘dei’ think its worthy, but to impose it on all now like take it U cannot live it, thats utmost wrong!, like that opening space for distopia disbalance and dread future ahead, but ‘dei’ dont care coz as demonized and delusional simply chase ‘own’ wrong eschatology by deterministic means, sadly but with such determinism is choked even western rite Christianity, where in fact sprang neoplatonism that laid inertia for all european neopagan and alchemic flow!
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Have never studied music but do have an interest in the archaeoacoustics, megalithic structures (medieval cathedral constructions) and non ordinary states of consciousness. What are traditionally considered tombs, megalithic structures such as Newgrange in Ireland (but are of others) which demonstrate multifunctionality other than serving as tombs. Newgrange resonates at 110 Hertz, its geometry means it is felt in the body. Also a sine wave sometimes develops visibly through passage to the main chamber to the portal to the outside. These structures predate the given dates of the pyramids. Anyway I digress too much. I do have a question about this piece of music purportedly medieval if you find any of the harmonic constructions within it. It has always intrigued me and drawn me to it? I have come across the Solfeggio sequences before and wondered were they present in this piece. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCDGd9arng8&list=RDaCDGd9arng8&start_radio=1
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I will listen to it but it really depends on how the instruments are tuned. If they’re equally tempered, they can play ancient Greek modes or medieval melodies and sound more or less the way the pieces sounded back then, but flatter or more grating. Tempering causes us to lose the ratios. Not the basic “idea” of the piece, just the ratios. So it will be hard for me to know without measuring frequencies, but I’ll give it a listen.
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OK, no instruments, so that makes it easier. They warmed up singing vowels starting with the note of B at 242 to 244 Hz four times, then on the fifth vowel, they go up a perfect 5th to F# at 366 Hz. 12TET B is 246.94 and harmonic B is 240; at 242 they’re closer to harmonic / 244 closer to 12TET… they really just split the difference. 12TET F# is 369.99 and harmonic is 352, so here, they’re closer to 12TET. However, the ratio of this 5th is spot on: 1.50 exactly using the 244 value, so they’re singing just intervals. That’s not surprising because unaccompanied voices tend to naturally find just intervals, especially multiple voices. They probably didn’t have a pitch pipe to get them started, but they quickly found the exact right ratio.
The melody line starts with B, then up again a perfect 5th to F# twice, then E - D - E - F# - F#. These notes seem to be in the B Dorian mode and yes, this sounds very much like gregorian chant where the Solfege would have been used. But there’s a but… the Solfeggio would never have used an interval between B natural and F#. That’s OK, this is just modulated from the Solfeggio framework, but no F# was used in the 3 Solfeggio hexachords in medieval times.
BTW, I would love to measure the Newgrange resonance because I highly suspect it’s actually 108 Hz. I could be wrong, of course. 
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No worries, just enjoy it if it appeals. Thank you.
So lovely. I did listen and gave it a quick analysis. Not sure if you’ve seen it (above).
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Yes I did and thank you again StephMcPeakPetersen and thank you for the remarks having listened to it. Solfeggio being in Gregorian chant makes so much sense, given the structural constant found in cathedrals for example, like Chartres but others too. Just meant to say enjoy the song it is a well known Languedoc/Provence hymn amongst other attributes.
Paul Devereux presentation on a range of archaeoacoustic sites around the world including Newgrange. https://www.gresham.ac.uk/sites/default/files/watch-downloads/2019-01-14_TomService_SacredListening_PP-PaulDevereux.pdf
YouTube of his presentation - for Newgrange go to 44 minutes 45 secs into the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oKxjm4pVww
Prof Robert Jahn reviews acoustics of Lough Crew (several cairns’ structures) and Newgrange. I been inside the spaces in both sites and they are amazing spaces for sound. However, Jahn measured the acoustics and did spatial surveys of them. Lough Crew in many ways is more amazing than Newgrange, less visited and because it is on private you can rent key for the lock on the Cairn from a local cafe run by the landowners. He reviewed both in this published work pages 651/658 explains the equations used and the measurements taken. https://icrl.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Acoustics-JASA.pdf
I also love this version of the Salve Regina by Ensemble Organum, sung in Corpus Christi Collegiate Church, Jaroslaw Poland. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXA3rw1Gilw&list=RDAXA3rw1Gilw&start_radio=1 also here is the Salve Regina music notations as it is sung https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PQy2RlqdmU&list=RDAXA3rw1Gilw&index=3
and its studio recorded version which sound-wise is somewhat clearer but I still prefer the live Corpus Christi Collegiate Church venue.
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“Look with thine ears.” ~King Lear
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after listening this video, and embracing as true the point about the risk of keeping evil objects at home, (and/or practices as habits), when we would bring some cursed or by cursed hands crafted eg. souvenir, (books media or knowledge shared by damned people and/or “deir” gadgets) [1] its good to be accented that as the Priest suggest Holy Water will remove the eventual side effects, either insitu in the polluted place, or in our bodies, but still keeping such object close or such knowledge in us, (even apps in phones or comps), surely will keep us at best in limbo even we’ve regularly used Holy Water!, or as the Priest suggest if not else it will be lever to be attacked the weakest around us, and trough him (or his suffering) the rest of us yet again!, so it would be wise to be watchful as individually so as collectively (whether like family or society) what we are allowing to be brought used and kept from 1. cultural 2. scientific and/or 3. philosophical nature … yeah, go keep high Christian restraining bar nowadays, less and less possible even for interaction with a.i. (maybe if not surely) tweaked by atheists and/or neopagans financed by “deir” higher’bancorp’places!, hm but who can guess who is/was behind the wheel, and by bioresonant means has left evil energetic imprint over some programing architecture, whether as trademark logo or typing hands!, and like that left some doorway for evil hijack, tho what by reductionist mindset would be lunacy, yet by Christian close to reality, it depends just how exposed is someone to such vibes overall and what lifestyle exercise so such traps would explode!, so do raise Prayerful Life in Feat, at least once a week going on Liturgy, especially if You are regularly splashed by 1. 2. and 3. risks …
- … here I’ll suggest as risky (or evil if persistently occurring) things we can see eg. under 1. new’age’deism 2. artificial’inteligence’butler and/or 3. platonism/neoplatonism … and hm all of these are present in large amount in our modern societies, so logically we are seeing and experiencing utmost risky side effects that are pushing us towards oblivion!, surely if behind such 1. trends 2. tech and 3. isms are beastily humans or unclean vibe, why we would expect that by interacting with it, even we’ve been little or shortly exposed, that even like that we are opening portals for hijack!?, surely we are!, tho, free will and it will be by our will, so in times of shear corrupt and neglect trending, not just on west but all around the world, eg. for abortionism [2] we will provoke on ourselves various temptations, that will result in greater apocalyptic alike sufferings, normally so we would Repent!, but would we?, time will tell!
also except abortionism, another huge risk in this regard is how we are stripping the Youngest from Sobermindness by hooking them on social nets and endless scrolling, on top more than usually buzzed by oversexualization [3][3][3] all that now expanded by a.i. (powdered by ultra’simple’fx) content, that secures even greater addiction and mass lobotomy towards idiocracy [4] i.e. now we’ve became dopamine soaked civilization on all levels as wide as possible, doping even the most Youngest with ultraliberal overindulgence in such digital dopes!, waiting just VR gadgets and suitable holodecks to enter on the scene, as such standardized in the education except fun&pleasure realm, thus like that becoming regular normal occurrence for the majority, expanding till ceiling the risks of merging Man and machines, what would the globalist davosian’M&M’blueprint (if we know Human2.0 is “deir” imminent agenda [4][5-2] I’ll say for secured stripping of Grace likewise secured path to certain oblivion!), logically coz “dei” are not Christians, and voila we can easily assume that behind “deir” transhumanist wheel are hovering unclean spirits, so graceless misfortune guaranteed!, am I paranoid about expanded a.i. + endless scroll risks, lets say nothing dangerous if this assertion is wrong, but unimaginably horrendous if true!, eg, that “dei” as globalist elites if luciferians [6][6][6] surely will hijack many by stupid reckless consent, and how we are embracing all new fintech if not soc.net.tech, who at all reads whatever disclaimers and all traps for our Person thrown there, at all who chasing&catching all slips pushed like that through comps,tv,phones internet and apps!?, who at all to place safeguarding against “deir” lucifearian agenda whether on local regional or global level!?, who cares about us!?, when we are mids shift among the ages, from “deir” humanism to “deir” transhumanism!, Yet if its some comfort surely Our Almighty Lord will greet “dem” by magnitude as time goes by, tho the problem is will we be held hostages as Mankind and get burned btw!?, So Regular Fencing By/With All Means With Grace Should Be Norm!!!
in one or another way, we are at constant attack on all levels, lets say since establishment of global metaverse nets, masses are On (not rarely) aggressive and instant buzz by algorithmic progression for lobotomization and passivation by idiocratic means, but also portaling for hijack aetherically and technologically, thus putting Prayers and Crossed as On Your and In Your Screens (as earlier On Your Walls) should be norm!, with hope at least evil spirits would have issue entering through such portals, or through dem in Your habitus!, in a way we are not Wakeful not just for the risks, but also for the possibilities for evading such risks!, tho go stop scrolling YT shorts once get locked, even by mistake!, doable if engage Your close one to alert You, or defocus You, or throw You in another mode, just like someone who is drowning, with calm clever approach do escape the traps by own means, and if cant, simply walk away from such place, and move for a while elsewhere till You build healthy antihooking habits!, hm, doable, but then again “dei” always have more kinky lures around the corner, to which we’ve been for a while (half century plus) conditioned, thus dont loosen …
… one personal risk that I’ve experienced and through it loss of Grace is by surficial interest in the neopagan history, when by diving in “deir” esotery even as cautious examiner, who is not opening in lust his hearth for “deir” knowhow coz aware that is seeded by evil esoteric information, even then I am getting swallowed and need to be cleansed and reshielded at least by Liturgical presence if not by Consecration through Confession and Eucharist …
- while as collective misfortune if not kickback of misery, I can suggest example close to me, i.e. the freemasonic consecration of the macedonian assembly in Skopye back in time of first Yugoslavia [1-II/4/5] what was actually general trend all over Europe and North America since the enlightenment era till ww2 [1-3/3] in my opinion wrong evil causality for any Christian Lands, making of the citizens on small door slaves, that here surely followed, as in the atheistic Socialistic Republic of Macedonia, so as later after the independence from SFRY in the still secular Republic of Macedonia, i.e. we’ve didnt experience some unique progress nor in SFRY nor later, later tho avoided the bloody separation [2] but in same time end up with worst privatization and transition i.e. from being first now ending up last in the accession for EU membership, on top with canceled name by pushed in and “secured” by nato [3][3-5][3-5] i.e. got unconstitutional flush coz illegal otanization, tho that became heavy burden on long run > as for nato > so as for the local system, still it seems noone cares, yeah till things dont get its boiling point!, what in my opinion would be the disbelief > as in nato > so as in Macedonia, respectfully by its own peers, just lets see when that will become case in totality!
anyway, cant imagine how heavy is the burden of citizens in usA coz have freemasonic constitution except buildings consecrated by freemasons!?, wage slavery, no, harsh living in the most wealthiest country [4-2][5-2] hm, here should be added that various combinations are leading to various scenarios!, eg. in Macedonia our Orthodox Church and Muslim Ummah are very active in the social life, thus incompatible flow for granted brings tilting around the progress, i.e. it cant be reached harmonious vibe in such by heavy pollution splashed institutions, tho what could be evaded if are employed proactive measures, eg. by law secured standardization when and how Priests can participate officially in the system, so by cleansing those places with Prayers and Holy Water would be alleviated at least the working atmosphere, if not reached progress, eventually doable if institutional libertarianism is employed, so by local institutional referendums would be allowed or not such approach, practice which now how is individually provoked mids secularism think its not overall effective, with temporary effect I’ll say, altho better something than nothing some will say, but what would look at best like half meal and never reaching satiation, tho at least the hunger for Grace is removed like that, on top triggered occasionally by those eg. that respect our OC tradition, plus are more than ready to defy the secular outfit, but like that throwing trap some of their coworkers to fell in condemnation coz such unregulated consecration or cleansing acts are not standardized, if not by law by referendum, so in some way would be framed and legalized regular OC help!, lets say when legal have at least double, tho I’ll say Complete Effect on closing evil gates and removing evil vibes on top securing Grace for those that are righteous while misery for those that are corrupt!, ha, then caution signs should be introduced too, so those corrupt by habit would selfcensure themselves or not whine if get burned!
now, need to throw reminder, or better said an observation, how we are ultra loosen as societies for the current unregulated a.i.technological genetic and bionic revolutions mids the current civilization, that exactly coz that recently also by illegal way was prepared for deir’great’reset, which altho in its outfit looks like if its raised on technocratic solidarity [1][1] in its core is transhumanist enslavement coz draws heavily on the previous fraudalism of democracy i.e. the current western plutocracy [2] or maybe oligarchy if we know which spirit pulls all financial deceit and trickery behind all euroatlantic cauldron on which bottom stir the pomace luciferians from various western esoteric orders [3][3] and when now this is more and more obvious, its becoming also even more obvious that “dei” are trying to pull quick ordo’ab’chao scenario in whatever way by whatever means wherever “dei” can, but such pull even tho its laid as blueprint in freemsonry [4] still cant be executed without our surrender and/or consent for fueling hate and evil, usually whatever is pulled as energy from some hole still it needs boosting so would continue emerging!, what is done through our attention grab, recent examples would be the sirian and ukrainian crisis, or the iranian and all the rest yasmin or earlier color revolutions, its an avalanche momentum on energetic level, most easily fueled by taking part in “deir” violent endless scroll social engineering and/or extra dive along soc.net nlp stimulation [5] towards “deir” chaos projecting as necessary for emergence of “deir” phoenix as utopian apex of “deir” enlightenment era [6-3] So be careful coz here gateway would be our will peddled to work out for “deir” chaos, thus on any violence do approach calmly, with spirit of understanding and forgiveness, instead cheerleading and boosting hate and violence, at least from side dont fuel such momentum in Your hearth as spectator, while if You end up on some battleground approach with more clearminded focus how would escape the total annihilations trap, doable if its kept sharp by steady invoked Grace through regular Prayers …
- coz “dei” cant surpass Our Grace, consequently “dei” cant throw us all easily in oblivion!, but such social networking can pose huge risk, how we are not aware about the presence of evil flow behind the scenes there, eg. from given artificial intelligence in “deir” hands, and how we are giving freely our consciousness to be sliced through “deir” globalist eg. metaverse soc’net’traps!, tho add also all the rest a.i.'s like those of bong loopgle or twarter etc. alike tools for modern NLP training, lets say predominantly of the western vibe, further also with tentacles to all the rest, and the majority is stimulated to vibrate negative vibe!, but even there hacks are happening, so the slicing as complete enslavement cant happen in totality!, even worst for “dem” anyone can tie “deir” flow simply by pumping enough Prayerful Grace in “deir” system, ultra easily doable when provoked by Christian Guerilla Marketing means eg. through various hard while smooth pumped soteriological info, hard as consistent and smooth as precise when is attacked “deir” n’w’o core as ideology resting on perfidious covert agitprop agendas for embracing “deir” new’normal’reseting and all “deir” agendas as very useful and necessary path for following, yeah just question “deir” digital money as safe and You are slicing back “deir” stamina instantly [5] sharing like that not just awareness but closing “deir” loophole towards instant n’w’o emergence, coz “dei” fooled even “demselves” [5] yeah coz magic is “deir” prime way of fooling Christians to follow, and what is most potent magic than playing tricks with Your mind so would bring You to level of surrender, easily avoidable if just have habit of singing daily Praises to Christ while tilting in by “dem” hijacked (if not owned) internet realm!,
and, hm, maybe not last, but certain risk for complete hijack of our reality, would be instigating ordo’ab’chao through economic means, and right after marshaling instant western technocracy, but what eventually will crumble coz we are living in times of Open Systems and not closed one, so its not feasible even after asteroid strike for “dem” to execute complete hijack of all western wealth, as “dei” obviously were planning [6][6][6] but coz the global economy is Open Trade System that is less than doable and/or manageable [7] even tho “deir” system was as always closed’indebting’loop of wealth system, and cant say whether exist or not an Free Open Fairly Competitive System of capital flow mids west, at least in theory, on top that to be mirrored through “deir” insect stamina [8-1] where the hierarchy is resting on by fear driven survivalist instincts, wrapped in plots and envy among the elites, instead respect and understanding, impossible to be seen as such even in schools coz the competitive learning curve produce selfish rush in own closed selfish circle since smallest legs!
- anyway, simply its impossible to be achieved whatever stable and effective total-asset-hijacking scenario ahead, at least not smoothly, i.e. such spin not to provoke vast internal western destabilization, impossible even “dei” had have some reality’control’tech which tho “dei” would want to [9] yet “dei” dont have it, assume only trying to convince us yeah by the magic of trickery all to embrace “deir” wonna’be’reality as real [9][9][9] so by surrendering our free will to be swayed to accept “deir” lead further ahead, tho now in digital form so the same would be more effectively managed, i.e. so the portals of fear by blackmail bribery or fraudalism would function more narrowly and/or massively by push’of’button “dei” hope!, But Now Masses Are More Awaken And More Cautious, thus “deir” skims surrounded by utmost risks for actualization, and lets see, time will tell what will follow!, the question is how Christians could/would be loosen to follow, what on west through the unum’sanctum’centralization of pope supremacy above all on west would be till some extent secured, tho “dei” hope such spin recently became case on east too [10][10] tho fallacy that by the measure of hijack of those two seats its also obsolete as effective spiritual influence [11][11][11] maybe “dei” hope that like that its secured eventual opening portals for evil through the hijacked vatican and phanar seats, what I’ll say its not possible as authority above everyone, and foremost like that is secured Christianity not to get righteous imperial continuity, tho what “dei” dont get is that cant hijack every Christian Seat eg. Ochrid Archbishopry [12] etc. etc. alike by imperial creed established OC Seats …
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hm, whatever was reflex for the current polar storm in usA, probably aetheral kickback coz some similar vibe was earlier thrown from usA elsewhere, haarping alike mirroring comes to mind, or maybe in question is punishment by some’shadow’elites coz disobedience, invoked by luciferian means, So in both cases it should be acted upon such event with focused intention for invoking Grace, just to show how that should look I’ll use jesuit example [1] altho here on GDS that could be seen maybe as wrong one [2] and even when pagans ask for Mercy they are listened and pardoned, so apostates would be also, plus per’se the elite circles in vatican are subjected to hijack, while as believers Catholic Christians are exactly such, an Catholic one, coz dont have divisions and if get together would focus the Prayers in same stroll, what by vibrational means would trigger merciful response by simple causality of Ask so would be Listened and get Response …
- … as potential ideally if All Christians had have resolved own heretical glitches, which appeared due to some evil infestation through the centuries, and as nonheretic in fullness to gather around the core root what would be Orthodox Christianity, logically so the effectiveness of any Plea would be as greater as possible, but till we reach such repentance of the western rite, instead eastern subversion by the current ecumenist spin, still we should all have and keep will to help eachother, if not else having compassion for the sick forgotten abandoned around the world, but are we, maybe all this is just result coz our transgressions as selfish arrogant modern broilers which dont have compassion even for their own siblings what about for some Starving Kids somewhere far around the world [3] so it will be as it will be!
hm, here we can add on the usA tab also the instant pace for clean legal migrant environment, which its also becoming reality in eU as matter of fact, eg. all balkan travelers are now neatly numbered processed and polished back in time, so personally dont see problem, yet knowing how such instant regulation provokes specific large personal causality for many that rely solely on such (unregulated) migrant existence, then surely pops up (and will pop up) as reflex given blowback, tho for which the infamous ea-globalists should be taken accountable, but now the cost benefit of regulating that lawlessness fells on all as consequence, thats why there should be introduced some balanced approach as option for the current instant regulation of the illegal migrant crisis in usA, maybe as I’ve proposed earlier [4] as another bumper except the usual flight back compensation, hm, as possibility maybe exemption for all that are willing to submit themselves on military volunteering whether male or female etc. alike cushioning of the side effects of this kind of instant home cleaning hype, which tho it should be regular occurrence everywhere, if we tend to keep the criminal vibe as low as possible around, but “someone” dont have that in mind, and need coz various means such illegal trends to be norm, in same time using stupid personal compassion excuses while parallelly exploiting the countries of origin of the very same immigrants!, stupid, no, but predetermined agenda for controlled chaos as there so as eg. in usA, or wherever in the western world, tho trend that is boosted on east too in similar pattern by the very same transnational corporations so ea-globalist (ea-determinists) above all would force momentum for detraditionalization of given place or vice versa [5] but also would have at disposal army of migrants ready to be used later for whatever need, eg. political destabilization, and/or economic pressure on the labor market thus blackmail till submission of the local population dependent on loans from the globalist nets like imf wb or bis etc. city’of’london subsidiaries!, hm, can we open portal for Grace there so “dei” would be reasoned up, think Yes, tho those willing to should know that the focus should be persistent coz “dei” have bunch of lizards around “deir” nest [6][6-3][6] except the abomination of desolation in it!, tho first altho vatican controlled that spot if pivot is the next flag logic [7-7] still later after the loss of the papal states [7] and consequently the northern infiltration mids the vatican seat [7][7][7-7] we can say rosicrucians secured “deir” elitist grip wide by various means, except in those that kept unfearful Sober Mind and Clean Heart what is doable only if got fenced regularly by Grace through Consecrated Life in Feat (Using the Holy Mysteries of Confession and Eucharist) [8][8] altho “dei” are not absolute in “deir” grip coz “dei” as luciferians are struggling to keep all factions aligned towards “deir” ultimate agenda for enthroning the fallen prophet (established by u’n’o kind of n’w’o) which probably would have open portal for hijack by the-beast-anathema-to-him achievable most logically through cortical modems and probably a.i. merging [9] thus such fallen spirit parasiting indirectly in such graceless host, at least that would be most probable pipeline for entity that even now is hijacking many by the level of apostasy, but still cant hijack all so would secure firm n’w’o agenda, thus the plotted and spinned rush towards wide evil steam in the past few years, among other the ukrainian ordo’ab’chao hype, which as we can see its peddled by mi6 and the obedient, coz hijacked by c’o’l european ss stooges, some say usA recently are getting free [10][10] but what is less probable, coz the vast interdependence goes far beyond financial codes, as I can grasp its kind of bargain coin for DonaldT, aside that he should get extra support ahead, coz the majority of western plutocrats are secured whether by lobbyist bribing or epsteinian alike blackmail, simply its complex endeavor of getting freed, and respect for DonaldT will to exercise courage to give resistance and secure Peace instead chaos in the geopolitical realm of our reality!, but is that enough?, thats why we should boost invoking extra Grace upon this world until its not too late, is it!?, as if “dei” as bank’cartel’nest [11-9] are always on same page, some say now divided between the american (rockefelerian) and european (rotshildean) factions [12] what tho is far from case knowing how all are interconnected and interdependent as western bankcopr cartel for few centuries through c’o’l and its beic corporate arm [13][13] but to the case in point probably we are seeing rush who will secure upper hand above the flow of power between the 3 euroatalantic city states [14] and maybe reactualization of unum’sanctum’hype coz after all Christians are dominant power on west thus on small door to be secured position over them [15][15][15][15] So Who Is Blackmailing Who How, maybe just by accident the extreme weather nowadays is bouncing around, till when we will wait on new treaty about ionospheric weapons!?, who is first to acknowledge their existence!?, indeed DonaldT should can and need to be clear about so we would all grasp that there are entities around the world eg. c’o’l that through private contractors have such means for blackmail of all unobedient, isnt [16] here gateway to such reality could be GDS if someone can share this kind of reasoning close to DonaldT … Cheers …
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eh, if this paragraph was preceded by the last one, i.e. the last being first one, then maybe the next one would had have clearer context!, practically if we’ve mastered and established new true physics unburdened from the neoplatonist inertia of “deir” alchemists philosophers and mathematicians (that became pivot for whole past scientific revolutions since the enlightenment era onward), maybe then we could hope for more peaceful future ahead!?, if we assume (expect) that peace by default reveals, once momentum for zero )free~from~debt( energy opens Door for wide equality and sustainable future, tho with understanding that even then risks will exist, or per’se suffering will not evaporate, thus constant eTOS debate should be norm, yeah go remove a.i. interference or infiltration mids the same, so nothing is certain except that too many people lost their compass, hm, will it be more reachable if eg. the current electric power is free, hm I doubt, coz many among the current power elites simply cant or dont want to pass that door with smile, unless some common inspiration hits the bell and to it needed common response, aSteroid comes to mind, coz what are afraid of is not loosing or loosening of “deir” power, but the belief of masses which fuels the same, whether that is bilief in “deir” super’wealth or super’weapons or super’intelligence, all of them easily challenged if just SFW axioms are taken in consideration on mainstream universities, hm, altho even without that some processes by itself will come to their place, and some things will bring inspirational Change …
imagine all existing spectrum its like wAter, where in (on) all densities, or different properties, can not flow one and the same objects, same or various energies, same movement of theirs … or How they would interact, or what holds or repels them, or what passes through … imagine, it is word for flow like hydrodynamics, so where exist eg. blocks bendings valves etc. alike paths or insulators, in such flow it can appear or dissolve charge!, logically different voltage brings different cohesion too, etc. alike analogies, where maybe sInkhole (Sun), vOrtex (Cells), tOrsion (Soul) assumptions could be derived by observation if we are aware that the given interaction exists … so can fluid density also play role alike, the surface waves [1][1][1] and just like in the sharp division among arctic and atlantic waters due to different salinity, same basic field have different potential, tho one that still its penetrable for the rest of the solid bodies!, so seeing all the trapped potential that rests in various redefined revisioned or reimagined vibes, eg. SFW [2] along the wasted possibilities to bring the same to equal resonance as scientific thought, that could bring more harmonious future for us as Mankind, I’ll not fall in despair, but will try to point to some useful inertia towards (being at least aware about) the possibility for chasing Healing Energy Gates …
… as on 1. macro so as on 2. microspatial level, 3. or multidimensional one, such:
- Sun
- our Skelet or even smaller like
2.1. Cells, - Soul
while having in mind, as pivot, the idea for Basic Field, from the JPF’s premise of topological metaphor [3-2] where 1., 2., 2.1 … 3 or 3.1. variations depends on the harmony of vibrations, among them + the rest of tied energies, in given environment or neighborhood, hm, will not say space coz spatial flow of energy would be from all sides, while environment should point towards plane or axis, i.e. in one similar space different axis of different object and/or energies can align or not, thus like that existing close to eachother but not open equally for receiving the passing flow, here gate or antenna could be the vibe as symbiotic frequency i.e. identical entangled oscillation of particular compact forms of energies or systems of existence eg. cells tissues bodies tied in whatever biomic form [2]
so, is it also, in such way, but for our Earth, kind of guardian or corrector, our Sun!?, i.e. the influence of our Sun behaves as healing connection, if we assume that plasma is Live flow, that can be provoked through particular vibe, or reflex from it, and which eg. can unravel as result of given collective awareness or focused intention, or even sprang from the noosphere!, i.e. we as beings did vibrate such response [3] eg. so “someone” would get buzzed, “someone” that think it have ultimate power along “its” unavoidable transhumanist n’w’o panopticon agenda, thus buzz that such covert feat is impossible to emerge as real constant, or better said we provoked/ing in a way different response to “deir” elitist globalist bullying exempt from violence, or seen as power of the people loosened (if not removed) from “deir” agitprop even without any street revolutions and rioting provoked greeting for ea-determinists like keep calm and step back from ur exceptional agendas!, yep, for this I am more than certain, while those that needed the greeting, yep “dei” got it!
anyway, along 2. + 2.1. such Graceful Greeting we are welcoming (provoking, praying for ) on every Liturgy when together we Praise (vibrate praises) in one voice and intention to Our Almighty Lord foremost through the 3. Soul (that confines our bodies and its voice as tool for actualization of our creative consciousness and will) also boosted through the piezoelectric properties of our skeletons [4-5][4-4] hm, I am doubling the last point in two different footnotes so would extrapolate that Belief is also creating bond to some idea emergence or thing eg. Love or eg. money or eg. promises (in whatever aetheral analog or digital form), assuming action is applied to the words so the same would get alive!, thus be careful how You are getting or locking some vibe <—> when/by focusing the creative thought > (consciousness, awareness) as intention > and creative will for its actualization, eg. if through Prayers to (so would get higher potential accompanied by Praises for) Our Almighty Lord (even more when those are collective thus by higher vibration with greater potential for causality of mirroring action reaction) we are seeking Freedom in form of Salvation from our locked will (eg. oaths contracts or blocks of local regional global laws and/or agreed twist of flow (its regulation)), instead some ephemeral temporal things (eg. like always by possessivity surrounded wealth), then we can expect to become witnesses of higher vibes and open doors for experiencing higher knowledge, yeah indeed be careful how You are wasting Your time when trying to jump up through eg. Orthodox Christian springboard as Life (hek even lifestyle) so again x2: eg. if through Prayers to Our Almighty Lord we are seeking Freedom in form of Salvation from our locked will, instead some ephemeral temporal things, then we can expect to become witnesses of higher vibes and open doors for experiencing higher knowledge!,
now, add to all this that as vibe, given harmony of oscillation, in whatever band of the spectrum, could be seen as such Praise, if it has such intention to stir focus towards higher existence and realms!?, and if cant grasp how to do that as Praise towards Our Almighty Lord think that is case coz You havent embrace it through Jesus Christ as Our Savior!, hm, here in the audible specter of sound, can we say that scales are specific slicing (or better said bending) of some type of flow (of harmonious oscillations), invented how would be reached specific airglow of vibes!?, at least that should be case, even tho maybe that wasnt intention of those that postulated those musical scales earlier in our history!?, derived logic from the notion that angles do matter regards reaching equal resonance between aether as field and given eg. specific cleavage eg. of calcite that exist in us, and how we vibrate along conscious intention while sing in exponential joint stroll [5-2] so yeah go experiment in Your own garage studio or outdoors with Your own auditorium me I am doing that while participating on Liturgies when trying to smooth out as much as possible the resonance between the Choir and rest of us as Laos, when indeed The Intention plus The Will plus The Praise aligns and brings for certainty huge Graceful Feedback, i.e. its opened greater gateway to be felt the already omnipresent Grace!, so for me I’ll say that as uncreated energy Grace is the basic Field to what we are existing and can raise in higher vibes knowledge growth if-and-Only-if we ologocize it with as clean as possible hearths, from the shackles of the lusts to which attach low spirits, whether we are aware or not that tho are hook for “dem”, thus if want to reach greater vibes surely employ in fullness (or as much as possible) Fasting as first springboard and then after Consecrated Life (Confession and Eucharist) so would get higher and higher while went on the most useful act in this Life what would be Liturgy to Our Almighty Lord Jesus Christ …
… so, (here is a unique gate) … do You want enough help and space from Above so would reach Metanoia, after also raising as higher as possible till Theosis, then do force Yourself on such for start Awakening Will so would begin to focus on Salvation (or Revelations) even it was not easy, i.e. to secure virtuous life in feat (that rests on Prayer Rule, Liturgies, Consecrated Life, Piety, Unselfish Solidarity, Watchfulness, Patience, Calmness, Sacrificial Belonginess etc. flow of Life by Christian Virtues) at least to strive for through willing cycles till You master given balance or routine where You thrive i.e. it allows the particular place, coz then after dont forget noone is perfect thus drop by drop reaching fullness of Metanoia so would get compatible even for greater feats eg. of vibrating together with Angels i.e. awareness that that is case when You participate on Liturgies!, yeah open spiritual eyes dont come by default thus awareness should be enough great reward, coz if You chase without merit extra bonuses of Gifts simply You are risking to get unworthy coz to those that is given extra it would be asked extra on The Final Judgement so dont rush for greater revelations how would not fell in despondency once loosen day after!, just be regular on Liturgies and for granted You will experience Grace as Uncreated Energy, logically use it along eg, be productive in the Christian Virtues, or maybe not depending of the position, many times even dont want to, i.e. with Grace to be more effective in Your position regards what You are seeking doing or want to reach, especially if that is modest rush towards earthly happiness coz whatever else asks for energy dissipation, while its better to use the same as Grace again and again for Healing Your and/or other Hearths (Souls, Nous as eye of the Soul) etc. alike soteriological feats … hm, can we heal this world, hm hm hm Lets Join greater amount of Will, altho in this context first to be resolved is what would bring certain Healing, an idea, some emergence, or Grace, the last one for granted, needed now in as greater amount as possible …
hm, regards idea, defacto chasing paradigm shift in science, eg. debunking particle physics, surely would bring Civilizational Healing!?, eg. how so is possible electron not to exist!?, should it be completely different concept!?, is that possible [6-3] even we would like to forget on everything rest engineered around the same imagined feeling of mainstream emf theory, on which basis actually we’ve pushed most of the el.revolution progress [7] yeah is it possible everything to get revision with ease, if so how we would realign all current alignment, an task that think should not be done through “deir” particle/quantum prism [8] but then how we should position ourselves about whatever emf logic that exist now, whether mainstream or alternative one!?, maybe too much imaginative or felted axioms keep us in idle state [9] or idle eventually will lead to wonna be ideal sooner or later [10] especially if we accept that the einsteinian quant interpretation of the photoelectric experiment is kind of fallacy [11][11][11] that should and it can be repostulated in various ways [12][12] by various approaches hek pivots [13][13] finally Nikola Tesla in his time overthrow easily the emerging mainstream electron mantra [14] but if back then he was dismissed and silenced, then how will be today whatever scientists that have certain reinventing will!?, and why “someone” need such fallacy still to exist thats another question, long story short until the global elites dont abandon the current imperial power principle we will not see paradigm shift, what asks for greater focus and will by many, that now is opposite trend, and maybe just 1% of the relevant theoretical physicists are trying to revision for good the current mainstream physics!, surely followed by many that chase clues disoriented and in wonder when the mainstream academia will wake up!?, eg. I’ll try to find clues about JPFs louding about plasma as live directly or indirectly conscious emergence, or we can use assumptions like everything is alive (everything that exist) [15] while something like photons could act as crosslinking mechanism!?, normally if we remove the pp-mantra!, altho to be honest, originally the true inventor of Photons envisioned them as “carrier of “radiant energy”–not a particle of light per se” [16] or as some has proposed even more strangely that 1 electron consist of 50k photons [17] just wonder do all those swirl also in own spirals or flow in own one, maybe in 8 spirals too, if 8 is perfect constant of one whole system [18] but what if all that is just empty assumption as RF suggests in the next footnote that, electron position as orbit is just supposed, the bells nonlocality, tho how he too leans on (the faulty if not false) mainstream quantum hype I’ll avoid his heavy selfconfidence in bulk [19] tho I am linking it coz I do like the next description “an Orbital is not a path, but its Shape”, stil there should be motion, how else would reach us the suns radiation in all its forms!?, idea that can stretch even further if indeed our sun is portal from where swirls some specific higherdimensional intention i.e. ( as Nikola Tesla knew, if “all life exists within a sea of vibration,” then “rhythm is fundamental to all of life,” writes biophysicist David Muehsam) [20])) always in need for basic rhythmic flow in given system [21] somehow in its perfect stroll in this plane eg. breathing, that can be result of given conscious vibe or invented one (or imbued by such), i.e. that as such just needs to stuck in given livelihood of correctly twisted scales in expected orchestral patterns, at our or others will, others if we know that there are too many conscious free wills around as quantity, on top in quality as Will of The Lord, then in middle our as Mankinds Will as freedom of choice, and as temptation that of anatemago which exist only so would secure our choice as possible, I’ll add as unique infinitely final after The Final Judgement (and not after departing from this realm of existence, i.e. there is Church to Pray for departed then there is hope for Redemption too), tho we can and need to strive at least to Get Up, but if that is not focused joint communal effort, its question how effective it would be, unless we indeed stuck somewhere alone, but even then we can seek Help from Our Almighty Lord!, and this topic should serve as booster not to give up, i.e. that help is always and everywhere around!, we need to become just reachable open for it, what comes if we are eager to learn rise and live in feat as Christians … but are we, and will such reckless individual position lead to eternal torment, dont wait to see [23-3] just wrongly to waste Your time and dont recognize what is feat or how is reachable there where You are thriving and You’ll be toasted, what about if we surrender our Nous Emotions and Actions to the forgetful temporary and/or evil trends, when not by the measure of gravity but enslavement we are kept on the path of perdition, tied by ropes by chains by shackles, released only if we force ourselves to Consecrated Life in Feat coz only Jesus Christ can Release and Save us from our burden … hm, and what is the greatest feat, to bring humble Prayer for all, tho balance between cataphatic and apophatic approach should also norm, when and where is reachable, so do put some effort thinking how we can Exit the current mainstream physics traps, btw try not to ridicule or judge those that got stuck in it!
must observe one strange trend about portal as artistic symbol, whether accented in architecture or placed as monument what was case since antiquity [1][1] but its strange how neopagans push the same pattern since the enlightenment era, in context of “deir” freemasonic sex cult the falus would be “deir” obelisks while vagina “deir” gates [2-9] now are those in same time kind of magical ritualistic devices thrown in some place for that cant speak coz not aware, can we boost given vibe by covert symbol push, hm, not even it was obvious [3][3][3] but at least are kind of marking territory approach, tho there are always conspy buffs that will say nah those are active spatial amulets [4] hm if so then “deir” n’w’o should now be already obsolete ideas concepts projects agendas hypes if pivot is the destruction of the georgia guidestones [5] yet it will be by Your own faith thus as if someone tends to put You in such belief so would reach kind of egregore as “dei” wish [6] so be careful how You approach such projections!, actually superstitions are fueled like that and life stacks if someone submits belief in it creating link to such idea eventually refuel it when revokes it again and again, thus in such context it could be accepted as useful idiot projection how such deconspy flow is again and again flushed!, as JPF points “dei” want to drive the observer i.e. “who controls the observer control reality” [6] altho there is also someone that can control the controller, here I am referring to Angels, or how Grace is shielding us even “dei” would stuff us with graphene oxide from head to toe!, actually psyop comes in various ways, but probably You’ve got use to some way of passing by or avoiding in or removing from such live feed!?, maybe some slavic blueprint as flow can give idea [7] how to be dismantled such nlp subversion!
