what is objective and what subjective reality, this post will serve as interesting pivot to find out, how for me eg. some position creates total opposition to the majority which embraced, or dont even care about some, globalist or neighboring mainstream fallacies, eg. about negating Macedonia, that are imposed even on us to embrace them as factual, altho defacto assimilatory!, so, to begin, here is corrected footnote in the quote above from the seers thread … important coz by embracing whatever pride, simply our Prayerful or Graceful potential is lowering!, and altho nowadays the same its not imposed by force on others, or misused somehow for boosting exceptionalism mids the OC realm, still potentially its like springboard in case “someone” decide to misuse it, by whoever in Orthodoxy!, what eventually it could fire back even if its used in opposite manner and that to burden those that negate such privilege to others while all the rest enjoy it!, eg. maybe all the earlier unwillingness of phanar to correct the past centuries OA grab, and rerecognize Ohrid Archiepiscopy (Archbishopric of Ochrid) now in face of Macedonian Orthodox Church by ecclesiastical diocesan jurisdiction [1] surely that in whatever extent (coz embracing by authority selfishness) put extra burden on the phanar tab!, probably among other, even that as wrong causality had have influence on the current wrong ecumenist tendencies of the Patriarch Bartholomew [1][1] must acknowledge this topic sounds like some wrong personal judgement on high OC priest, highest actually by heredity, or judgement of the imperial historical OC seat, but my intention is not to ridicule or judge anyone, but point that there is specific wrong causality which up until is not resolved eg. by public acknowledgment as repentance from the evils of the past century patriarchs in phanar, the very same evils guess will keep hanging around phanar and as burden will reflect to all Orthodox Christian Realm as well, in various ways!, here should be noted that among other, the main problem is the very same west-east ecumenist inertia, and which hangs in phanar for one century through wcc (ctrl+f > wcc) [1][1] as such eventually bringing discord mids Orthodoxy and open path towards greater loss of Grace …
- … for now, only way we can sense total wrongness in the current modern ecumenical movement, is by the alerts from the OC Elders [1][1][1] but there are wide wrong kicks as JayD points, while it could be argued that to the same covert apostatic slip, like the change of the julian calendar, where we as Orthodox Christians are removing ourselves from the unbroken cycles of celebrating Christmas and all the rest Feasts, except Pascha, what as change drop in phanar in the past century, and as newcalendarist mode is pushed even nowadays by trickery, eg. almost by rule every balkan state that wants to join eU need to change its julian Church calendar!, eh total lunacy for such political process to be blackmailed by whatever religious coercion!, spin which us done without any broad Panorthodox Council, and more aligned to the gregorian than the genuine Orthodox Julian Calendar [1][1] something that looks benign, but in question is alignment with vljatican and its ecumenist hype, which radiates also other ecclesiological risks that go along with such on small door pushed merging between phanar and vljatican!, hm, can we make a list that brought such inertia, surely!, eg. …
I’ll say with ease, that the earlier abolishment of OA had have own causality on such later reality [1][1] i.e. Ohrid Archiepiscopy is birthplace of Slavic Orthodox Christian Baptism and Literacy, that once was hijacked by phanar through greedy skim, when it flush assimilation of all OA slavic services, even burned dozen great monastic libraries, some say systematic burning of Holy Christian Books in many macedonian monasteries, so the hellenistic assimilation would be secured instantly, eg. the Slivnitsa Monastery book burning [1][1] so wouldnt that burdened the phanar sear, for granted!, yep, how else to be explained such disorientation of phanar, than due to given recent proudful historic graceless’side’kick simply now inherited lost compass!, problem, coz eventually was unrepented sinful burden, which latter embraced “deir” ecumenical hype!?, hm, hm, hm, not that per’se that that abolishment is the main burden of phanar, but now when all disputes are solved between MOC and SOC, still phanar as progreek to refuse to verify the same, mostly due to own greek ethnophyletistic issues, that indeed looks like burden!, i.e. coz now OA, is MOC-OA (Macedonian Orthodox Church - Ohrid Archiepiscopy), and due to the very same will of macedonians to have ethnic label in the name of the Church, as almost all other nowadays in Orthodoxy has, simply to us its negated such right and equality, and still waiting on official recognition by phanar, what in same time now reflects not just selfishness, but also pride by inherited authority, thus misusing the power that is granted by the Orthdox Christian Councils!, and lets say, in question is just administrative issue, eg. maybe phanar has other more important work to do, thus excusably late, yet the burden became even more heavier on its side, when unlike Macedonian that was recognized by the Serbian Orthodox Church, thus phanar needs just to verify such recognition [1][1][1] in case of Russian Orthodox Church that didnt recognized separate uKrainian Church, still phanar instantly recognized it without any soborian dialog, what looks and smell as if it was rigged by globalist design, and how that tomos pass earlier, before the provoked 2022 war by cia, when Ukraine steaming to invade its rebel regions, and like that pulling Russia to respond, its really strange that two years before that became reality!, probably globalists pull the move when ea’determinist’bots visited phanar, eg. hived him even before the plandemix guess among OC’s he is in the turbo’target’group [2][2][2] and like that easily hijacked blackmailed or groomed so he would knock a wedge in the russian heart, and later as divided faithful, like that would boost the very same war which was pushed by “dem” so Russia would be kneeled by trickery, and euroatlantic determinists of globalists remove the main obstacle towards “deir” unipolar n’w’o!, yep, phanar became “deir” stooge [2][2][2] still whatever happened, altho by all means phanar should had have already recognized MOC-OA, and still hasnt, more than probably as macedonians we will still reflect humble heart and wait on its mercy!, logically as all other respecting the tradition!, hm, if indeed “deir” stooge, effectively we will wait more than probably on new Patriarch in phanar, so technically such Tomos to be issued!, tho I’ll say now it would be ridiculous by magnitude even to wait on recognition by phanar, mostly due to this selfishness arrogance, but also its war’boosting’skim, war boosting coz like this zel(j)enski actually is blessed by phanar to keep “his” hijack of Ukraine and as dictator under “his” dictatorship, now even extra coz unelected, to have part in his push for new and new death rows of ukrainians and russians!, so, is there any logic to hope on such licensing commission for any fair play, while its commissioner already dismantled the league on small door, and broke communion with Russian Orthodox Church, hm, whats the point!?, and so such causality would be evaded and extra Grace secured, I’ll not thing twice to claim to my compatriots dont waster time and by all means turn to totality of the tradition and leaving ethnophilethis, when fear that even then we will be not recognized!, but, lets say causality (is bleach) and has heavy mirror reflection of the past burdens!!!, which tho due to the Prayers of all Orthodoxy is cushioned if not evaded, but his move to abandon Russia and embrace euroatlantic determinists along “deir” vljatican, that eventually will bring misery to all!
- eh, usually I was trying to argue, that maybe our blockage about Autocephaly of Macedonian Orthodox Church is Providence Of Our Almighty Lord simply coz we could become driving force for dismantling of ethophiletism, by circumventing etnophyletist heresy which nowadays is normal occurrence in Orthodoxy, and like that achieving instant recognition, i.e. going in totality to the roots of the naming of Local OC Churches that in all history bear the name of the first Episcopic Center, eg. here Justiniyana Prima (and from it by jurisdiction later Ochrid Archiepiscopy) [1-#2][1][1-5] like that becoming first to break free and rise in totality of Graceful Potential, yet suddenly that became less and less doable, coz things got stuck once we were slashed by trickery in our Constitutional Ethnic Name of our State, i.e. foremost coz for such antiethnophiletistic religious stunt we needed to keep our national name alive, which we didnt [3][3] while now last lets say institutional stronghold for the noun Macedonian became the Church … long story short, its neighboring xenophobic issue that drags since the past century balkan wars partitioning of Macedonia [3][3] so day after simply whatever Macedonian it became issue for them, assimilation that lasted even earlier on church level through rush of phanar for hellenization even among Slavs where Ohrid Archiepiscopy had have jurisdiction, and century after ending up in total greek assimilation of whatever macedonian in and after the balkan wars!, lets say now, coz the Greek Church is in direct tie with the greek government, eg. salaries are on state budget, simply the church authorities are almost obligated to follow the profane stance of the greek politicians, while those almost like in every other national country, simply played on that nationalistic card coz smoother vote grab, while in essence in Aegean Macedonia coz the past balkan and greek civil wars simply there are not many free macedonians left, most of them lobotomized till total brainwashing [3][3] still there are some fearless to attest own uniqueness mostly by quiet cultural means, but even nowadays those cant speak on their slavic macedonian language [4] on top, not that only there macedonians are negated, but indirectly here in Macedonia too, and even to be more ridiculous also by Bulgaria except Greece, for what in their case some will say the main reason is fear not to be labeled as cocurator of Macedonia, coz it has also the Pirin part of the balkan’wars’grab, but in my opinion in question is fear from loosening of the modern bulgarian nationalism, which can be easily exhausted knowing that there reside many macedonians that migrated from the rest parts of Macedonia throughout the centuries, having own distinct from the bulgarian slavs marks eg. specific customs dances songs etc., thus enough potential for even greater negation than the greek arians are exercising, coz in their case mainly the name as touristic antiquity branding was issue … all in all, wrong nationalistic fallacies not just from OC perspective, but also as european egalite paradox, if not fallacy coz eU acts like champion of human rights in the world!
paradox, hm, no, but pure hypocrisy of equality, i.e. eU to keep eyes’wide’shut about the right of self-determination of macedonians, that should be more than basic right in this century!, and eg. compared to the thread about seers even greater blindness, coz its going so deep in the issue of negation, that even witchcraft cant compare to it, eg. pagans and neopagans dont negate existence of Christianity, even demons’anathema’to’them dont, while this with the macedonians sounds and feels like negating existence in totality by their own Orthodox Brothers in Christ, and why coz some arianistic pride of prolonged ethnocide by our balkan neighbors, which even nowadays is not repented by phanar and how by trickery pulled abolishment of Ohrid Archiepiscopy, see again the 1st footnotes, yep, 1. pure european hypocrisy how even in this century Greece and Bulgaria molest us as aspiring eU member, that eU allows it with indifferent smile, while also 2. pure xenophobic bullying by them as neighbors, that its not even anyhow from fear, so we would say understandable past century occupators reflex, if we know how underdeveloped army or police force has now Macedonia so anyhow would pose threat to our them now or in near future!, aside that in their parts of Macedonia coz one century assimilation raping of everything macedonian, now only whispers macedonian echo in the forests where our ancestors planted some tree … simply wrong antichristian proluciferian mood of idolizing the concept nation through greek or bulgarian dioptry, which as if its arranged by design so never Orthodox Christians would compact their rows on this peninsula how were turned against eachother when it was thrown to them the macedonian’cartilage’bone for gnawing!, yeah freemasons knew what are doing, hek hijacked even many from the local clergy through the past two centuries, what about not to roll skim by which politically will secure loss of Grace through long lasting hate, dont forget its evil’spirit’anathema’to’it that drives “deir” luciferian freemasonic agendas!, so go grasp how so we end up in such ultimate hatrate as neighbors, that cant be found even between french and germans nowadays!, hm, probably anathemago did “his” best through his freemasonic stooges back then to secure erasure of OA and later whatever change for its revival coz in question is even greater risk for “his” n’w’o, and against “him” to raise Orthodox Tsar with full might [3]
- as could be seen, at least from my perspective, there is no ideal position in this world for Salvation, simply as realm this is place of our expulsion, thus altho we tend to reach Theosis and bring eg. purity or cleanness and through it joyful brotherly love, stil as could be seen even in Orthodox Christianity that is not always case, what points that we need to focus extra towards Metanoia, as personally so as collectively, what eventually would come if there is clear vibe like clarity through personal Confession or collective eTOS hype [4-111] so when we are at risks even as Orthodox Christians then what about the rest!?, eg. as completely unrecognized as Macedonian Orthodox Church we suffer full soborian fencing, while phanar coz such from whatever reason proudly behavior suffered as I am pointing hit of the euroatlantic dragons tail, lets hope not for good!, how else to be explained all that ecumenical flow, which by the very Saints of Mount Athos is condemned as driven by evil spirit, as I am pointing through the infiltrated by freemasons wcc cauldron!, maybe the current phanar patriarch thinks it could cleanse vljatican by hanging around with the pope, hm, what would be feat of Saints, but for such stunt as we could see even Elders and Saints of Mount Athos are not so willing, what about someone who is not dwelling in such ascetic feats, finally didnt Jesus Christ Himself says to us dont have nothing with pharisees, while vatican as seat it could easily be identified now as such, after the blatant acceptance of the transhumanist biotech in the past plandemix even everything else is put aside!
objective or subjective, here all these suppositions, will sound maybe as judging attitude, still thats not my point, but that even we as Faithful Christians are loosening and dont keep high guard not to fell in error, what about if in question are traditional Believers, on top like that not rarely loosened enough so would flirt with various pagan or neopagan divination evils like astrology or seers or channeling etc. evilry, if not else on tv shows!, so do Wake Up in time coz we are all warned by Our Almighty Lord that many are called upon Salvation and Eternal Life in Eternal Bliss, yet not many will be Saved from eternal oblivion, thus being watchful what kind of things You read watch or listen also counts regards the blackening of the Nous [5-10][5-6] and werent we allowing our Kids even from smallest legs to be polluted by various seemingly not so problematic demonic cartoons, pokemon comes to mind etc. alike, even teletubbies with their alien outlook are almost scifi conditioning for later diving deep in the realm of aliens, isnt!?, actually by various way tempted to loosen and embrace paganism or neopaganism [6-3][6-6][6-9] hek almost half if not more of the disney or popular cartoon network shows are directly or indirectly tied to magic sorcery or aliens, so day after loosened as Teens those Kids will be prepped for horrors vampires witches even wizard academix, so day after as adolescent to reach even magnificent titles [7-3] the scientific priesthood of/for “deir” future homosilicon race!
or coz I dont know C++ I am C++ programmer 
or selfevidence in abstract terms leads to selfevidence and vice versa even when abstraction is illusion, isnt [
hm, I do find biggot such (this/idiot) kind of labels, especially problematic for fine tuned Orthodox Christian hand to converts, tho I understand Jay has enough from halfliterate debatants thus their ignorance day after provokes even bragging kick or reminder to others dont waste my time if not ready …