practically this thread is result of particular need to elaborate one recent tartarian hypothesis of mine [1] to some extent closer to some lets say mainstream basis from the past century where is mentioned one interesting detail which is pivot for locating pelasgian genesis for tartaria (see the next paragraph) … and probably many would say ha he is biased coz have pelasgian origins, but that would sound like mezzoamerican flow relates nowadays with eg. canadians, yep there were huge influences in the past, but btw through the centuries inflow from europe changed extra on the go!, still what is different with the balkan peninsula is that somehow stayed as always unconquered for good by invaders or once they succeeded to hold grip here for few centuries (eg. the subjugation by the ottoman empire) couldnt impose complete cultural assimilation or genetic sweep, even less spiritual mopping!, thus I can freely say here we have continuity of dozen millennia since eneolith onwards, what could be reconstructed easily by the ornamental art (eg. the heliolatric cult present as on the rock art so as the neolithic seals and the after the macedonian sun from antiquity and day after the standardization of sun’day as 7-th day for rest in the week by Saint Constantine The Great in Byzant (altho had have done that in Milan) and later also we can see the very same sun from antiquity in various forms as specific stamp for the iconographers here typically used on The Icons Of Mostholy Theotokos) also there are many other niches that point to such histo-cultural continuity, but in this post I would not elaborate such knowhow but will try to examine whether mine assumption have right basis so would offer correct hypothesis maybe one day pushed till provable theory, what tho will ask for quite big academic puzzling of everything available as historic sources and archeological recognition, hm maybe that quite is not reachable thus dont have high hopes, yet I would be happy to share my reasoning and get factual verification or constructive challenging!
for this kind of conclusion, that tartarians are brothers to pelasgians, first pivot is the 1835 book of William Pinnock “a comprehensive system of modern geography and history” where is suggested that tartars deduced their origin from Japhet the son of Noah [2][2] now if that is case and pelasgians are also lineage through Japhet as his nephews from his son Javan [3] i.e. Dodanim and Kittim would be per se pelasgians as settlers in the balkan peninsulla [3] while Elishah was in Italy and Tarshish (wait a bit for the geographic location) all of them supposed that are the line of the white race, now, my subjective assumption why tartarians claim that are also line of Japhet would be through his nephew Tarshish eventually [4] and many speculate that his location as tribe was in iberian peninsula, but if they had have gold or iron then as tribe from iberia surely there would blossom the iron age, on contrary in the Black Sea there were tails about the golden fleece, and there by all the mythology are found pelasgians in my understanding as native around the Black Sea i.e. they were first who brought the iron revolution in play (the socalled sea people in the bronze age [[url=https://www.worldhistory.org/Philistines/]5[/utl]][5][5]) if its taken the argonaut myth and where argonauts were chasing the golden fleece [6] when defacto as their arrival in Colchis and in age of shift from bronze to iron they surely didnt chase gold but something that could bring extra gold easily if used in war [7][7] yep what did they search there, maybe as I am trying here to find whether the root TAR is same for tarshish and tartaria knowing where is tartary and knowing how some tartarians said they are from the Japhet lineage!, so here I have assumption from the upper 2nd footnote book assertion that if such empire existed it was from pelasgian origin, and just then later the remembrance of its might was projected to the newcomers who as turkomongols there took the naming of the conquered territories above the Black Sea later known as tatars when tho coz mixed with the native population kept the myth about their origin as white race lineage … long story short all these axioms can be true or false and I cant attest discovery per’se but can assume this is more probable than possible explanation for tartaria and tartarians, altho far from the modern fantastic lore about lost advanced civilization, even less dugin alike attempt to be built modern sinno-russian bound by ancient cybelle archetypes and his turanian hype [8] that can easily slip in tartarian alike hypothesis of his, yet be creative and do check this logic of mosaic reasoning and give Your own idea am I far from reaching theory or there is firm basis for further exploration!?, eventually such flow could lead to constant reshaping of this mosaic in various combinations due to various assumptions or claims from various sources, hm, maybe some a.i. could juggle out such feat more easily, still for me like historiographic amateur its pretty possible hypothesis …
now compare to this kind of mine reasoning eg. extremely imaginative hypothesis like the next one [9] (search in the link turanian or tartarian) and continue exploring this topic in whatever way You prefer, philosophically assuming can we bring for so long twisted and falsified historical sources through the centuries like pivot and through it bring theories!?, hm, just in the 2nd footnote derive some claim as pivot and coz sounds convincing to my subjective understanding where pelasgians were thriving to colnclude thattartarian civilization was actually pelasgian i.e. belongign to the pelasgian substratum of people …
that maybe in return would thanks with remembrance of some historical fact eg. where his gold was buried before the afterlife …