Exchange of thoughts about German WW-II activities on Antarctica (Topic Closed!)

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Hi All, I am new here on JPF page and on this forum.

My name is Frank and I’m Dutch and a real “Out of the Box” thinker.
I like to find out if there are people out here that not only are interested in the topic about ‘Nazi’s’ on Antarctica, just by sharing others opinions, but actively have researched and studied the topic by themselves?

You’re right if you assume I did, just by asking this by the use of these specific words.
I know Joseph has knowledge about this and I have already sent him an email, but I’d like to find out if others have gathered specific knowledge on this topic.

Please not the standard claims that come from others, but real information.
First of all, are you a believer or do you rather stick to silly ‘Ice-wall and flat-earth’ stories?
Then I am the wrong person for you.

So, let me start here:
-Do you ‘believe’ (or think) that the earth might have cavities big enough to live in?
-If so, do you have your own thoughts about how this can be possible?
-If you think that can be possible, then how or why do you think the Germans knew or heard about this and sent out the 1938 New Schwabenland Expedition?

I think these 3 questions can become a nice starting point.

Come on !
Do you like to give it a try ?
Share your thoughts with me please!

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#2

Did you read any of JP Farrell’s numerous books?

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#3

The Sum total of all the libraries in the world on UFO-ology and Ancient Continents serve to Validate what I always internally believed to be true before evidence was presented.

And I suspect there are others out there like me. Some of the literature filled in the details, but the big picture, I came in with that. And I don’t think I’m unique in that way. Just think it’s one of those things we don’t say to other people.

I personally do not need Government disclosure nor am I part of any team attempting to lobby Washington to have full disclosure. Because I need government to tell me what I already know? The big picture.

Government will one day at a podium declare that sciences dating on planet earth, the history taught in schools and universities and books published by men with great esteem will admit, they have all been wrong about the written history of the earth? Never can they admit to these lies nor the priestcraft over many religions admit the earth is much older than they tell their followers.

They are going to tell us that before the Europeans came here, the United States was a melting pot of cultures, and not just a bunch of native americans running around with rags around their waste?

NEVER

Roman Coins and Hebrew coins magically appeared on our shores? Ancient boats in Irish Museums that had cross Atlantic capabilities looong time before Columbus? Africans, Japanese, Celtic living among native americans. Yeah, Imagine coming upon a native american tribe and the dudes spoke Gaelic? Or I need them to explain to me why Aztec has Chinese writing on it or Mexicans look a little more Chinese than Spanish?

PUt that on top of Middle Earth.

Middle earth was called by mane names

Middle-earth, Endor, Endórë, Ennor, Ennorath, The Great Lands, Hither Lands, Outer Lands, Agartha, Agharta, Aghartta, Agharti, Agarttha, Agartta, Agarta, Shambhala, Shangri-La, Patala, Aryavartha, Sipapuni, Xibalba, Duat, Annwn, Irkalla, Yomi, Tartarus, Asphodel Meadows, Mictlan, Kur, Svartalfheim, Nidavellir

Just like the mythology of the great flood that appears in indigenous cultures across the world, it was told in stories. Western society? We don’t have stories. We don’t have songs or dances that we do together. As the Jungians would say, communitas is dead. We live in influencer culture.

Middle earth mythologies existed through out all time, different cultures and they all knew the earth was round too.

The Germans were probably told childhood stories. They are big on Fairy Tales and mythologies. Heck Grimm probably stole from the Hindu’s. Some of their stuff said to come from the Vedas. For the Germans, it was probably second nature to their culture. In ours, if you talk about such things, you’re an odd ball. The mythology never died and thus the Nazi’s were in search of the holy grail, eternal life, harnessing the power of the universe, but it killed them. Better be careful.

Unfortunately, the great Joseph Campbell, whose work I enjoyed and respect, decided some of these myths were no more than psychological archetypes operating in the human psyche. We know better.

Suffice to say, Ancient continents, Middle Earth, life in the universe is just part of my operating system. part of my model of the world. So is the ability to know these things not thru validation by outer sources, books, video’s, scientific survey, but through the old fashion tricks they teach in places most people never venture too. Remote viewing…

How they drilled those tunnels out? Not a clue. I’m sure it wasn’t with hammers. But I’ll tell you one thing, if I were to write a science fiction novel on the people that live there, I’d make them the type of people who can walk thru walls and change their molecular structure.

Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.

Executive summary: I can’t prove nothing to nobody that doesn’t want to believe in the first place. if I had to write a convincing science paper, I’ll probably bow out and just say, yeah, it’s all a figment of wild imaginations. Why bother validating a new model of the world to somebody who is not ready? And if somebody needs proof, then there is no dirth of literature on the subject

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Yes I have read 2 why?
I have 2 on my shelf here, ‘The SS brotherhood of the bell’, and 1 ‘The third way’, that last one is not my interest, and long ago, online, ‘Reich of the Black Sun’.

#5

Than you for your response. But I need to admit that I have some difficulties trying to understand what point you try too make here.

While reading it seems you have already made up your mind on how things fit together, I mean your your take on the Germans for example.
Naming Grimm and saying “The Germans were probably told childhood stories”. Well who is not? I would like to ask.
Or how do you come to the idea that ‘they’ Dug their tunnels. ?
That’s almost a statement. And why write a paper? That usually ends with a conclusion.
What I see, is that you try to answer the questions beforehand.

Please don’t take this as criticism, I don’t mean it that way.

What I mean and am looking for lies more between the lines. Behind the conclusions and opinions. We always think we have to come up with answers, because that’s what we’re taught at school.
But forget the conclusion!

A journey does is not arriving at our destination, it is everything that lies between A & B!

I’ve discovered that if you commit yourself to an opinion, but there’s much more room for new insights and different perspectives with an open mind. Then you learn by using creatively, and new doors open before our eyes.

I’m Dutch. That’s pretty much the same as being German. So I know how that goes. A shared Germanic culture, the Germanic/Nordic gods, fairy tales, the names of the days of the week, holidays, etc., and even our language.

The Anglo-Saxon branch, in my opinion, follows a different, more rigid way of reasoning, and I think that’s where the inevitable misunderstandings arises.

So, back to my three initial questions;

Try to think from the standpoint of a bystander, “If there are cavities”, Can you reason how these could have arisen? What physical mechanisms could have made this possible? “Is our current science right?” (We do think so, but E=Mc² is still just a theory!).

The Germans figured this out with the help of intensive studies all over the globe, performed by the “Ahnenerbe”.
And I think they came pretty close to answer the ‘hollow earth theory’!

This is the kind of approach that I’m looking for, and then discuss here the options… ok?

#6

The pressure from ruptured water pipes is known to cause sinkholes under city streets. Since the earth has both water and pressure zones underground, water caves or caverns exist. I paid for a tour of the Carlsbad Caverns in New Mexico USA and saw huge high ceilings in many caverns that were the size of a city block. So yes, they most likely exist in the South Pole area. If beings could build the Giza Pyramid thousands of years ago without the power tools used today to build skyscrapers who knows what “powers” they possessed or their adaptability to various environments.

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#7

I’m not talking about lessons in schools by academics on the patheon of Greek, and Norse Gods. I had those too in school.

I’m talking about a collective recognition that was part of the culture of story telling to transmit truth. A shaman, medicine man, elder wouldn’t have told these stories to entertain or as a lesson in literature, but as an oral history passed down from the Bronze age that the recognition of these stories are part of your DNA. They were teaching their cultures history. A recognition that there were Gods with super human powers.

What we call mythos is accepted doctrine in Hindu cultures as the Maharbarta goes into great detail on many of the things Joseph writes about. Ancient nuclear bombs, flying machines, none earthly weapons. Himmler, Wilgut, and a long list of top nazi’s knew of the Hindu scriptures and referred to them.

You asked if anybody believed that the earth has cavities big enough to live in? That speaks directly to the question of validating the existence of such a phenomena. I’m going past the sale.

Having a world model that acknowledges ancient history that had advanced technology, flying machines, nuclear weapons, lasers, crystals as sources of energy is not so much a claim that I figured it out as that’s my operating hard drive similar to probably millions of others. And none of it is gotten from blind believe. We do have good science on these subjects.

It seems all your questions boil down to “prove to me the existence of a hollow earth theory?” The questions seek a physical explanation of the science that might support the theory.

They were past that. The top Nazi command were occultist and were working with psychics (remote viewing) astrologers, the Uranian school of astrology which discovered the trans neptunian bodies were said to have timed the allied bombings using this system.

Karl Maria Wiligut

Claimed personal memory of a prehistoric Germanic world 228,000 years ago with three suns, giants, dwarves, gods, and an ancient “Irminic” religion. He designed SS rituals and runes. They knew about the lost continent, they knew what was contained in the Crespi treasures,

The Thule Society — Believed in like Atlantis/Hyperborea that was the original Aryan homeland, destroyed by catastrophe. Members included Rudolf Hess, Alfred Rosenberg, and Dietrich Eckart. The middle earth theories are derived from Atlantis and Lemurians continents destruction as well as hidden air field bases not detectable by modern equipment and ancient lineages of masters/teachers.

Atlantis is directly connected to all middle earth scenerio’s as well as a hidden group of masters/teachers.

In recent years, there is no dirth of writings with hard archeological evidence. Not only of it’s existence, it’s culture, it’s warfare and their imperialist ways.

I’m wondering if you really have a mechanical question like how did they build the pyramids?

Your question seeks a mechanical answer for purposes of validating the myth?

Christopher Dunn did a spectacular job disproving that the Egyptians could have built them. All the other alternative explanations have been ignored by science.

There are probably caverns all around the united states and in other countries. I went to one in Mohawk country. They are huge and of course a human (space wise) could live in one. I wouldn’t want to live there. And definitely crystal deposits which is part of the ancient stories.

Einstein believed nothing could move faster than light. That’s the because the tools we use to observe are faster than light.

I’m not sure what you are qualifying as an opinion as much of what I speak out has been vetted out by writers for many years and the evidence, especially in Frank Joseph’s writings, author of Ancient America and tons of books on Atlantis all come from a German point of view. I certainly can’t footnote every book on the subject that I’ve read. But you can’t speak of middle earth without knowing the stories of how it connected to both civilizations.

I believe Frank Joseph was actually a member of the nazi party which makes his evidence based conclusions all that much more compelling. You want to know what the Nazi’s were up to? Ask a Nazi…

Maybe we can ask Trump if his uncle John Trump ever talked about these things given all of Tesla’s papers were stolen shortly after the visit.

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Because your are not the first one to barge onto this forum and have your own definition what “out of the box” thinking is and seem to put that overlay on top of a writer, in this case JP Farrell without really knowing his material. If it is history and speculation your after, you might be at the right adres. If it is bustling underground cities with haunebu’s flying around, I think that will be less so.

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#9

You said it more succinctly than I. None of this stuff is out of the box.

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#10

My apologies for posting my question here.
I see a problem arising between the question I posed and my choice of words.
My question arose from my personal interest in how others think about the topic of Germans at the South Pole.
Perhaps my English skills are lacking here, but I haven’t read a substantive answer to the three questions mentioned in any of the responses.
Apparently, it’s more about me asking something that everyone already has their own opinion about, based on what others have written before. Whether this is Joseph or occultists from the past, it’s more about a copied perspective and not about an investigative, open mind seeking new paths and insights together.
I experience what I’m reading as a settling of scores. Judging me based on my choice of words or whether or not I know Joseph’s books is more like avoiding a conversation or exchange.
I made a mistake.
Therefore, I’m closing my topic here and will not post any further responses.

#11

No need to apologise nor leave the forum. Maybe it would be easyer if you shared what you discovered and ask if people if they can augment on your ideas.

#12

> Therefore, I’m closing my topic here and will not post any further responses.

Just to be clear. You’re refusing to engage in a conversation you started based on your expectations of how the conversation should go and desire to have it turn out the way you want and demanding the terms of the conversation and flipping over the chess board because people responded in ways not to your liking.

“ignore everything that came before”—and think for yourself is a classic rhetorical move. It serves as a form of conversational control or framing device. It would be true in any language. it’s impossible (or at least highly improbable) for someone to genuinely arrive at these ideas in total isolation without any prior exposure to the historical/mythological/occult/religious lineage I discussed. That’s why researchers and authors footnote their research then attempt to synthesize. You’ll find my answer is a theme and variation of anything you can find on the internet about how Germans knew about it but whoever wrote those missives probably came to similar conclusions thru the same research.

Maybe you’re able to somehow bypassed the “contaminated” history and accessed a purer, unfiltered truth. “Don’t listen to the dusty old books/experts/history; trust this direct insight instead.” Dismissing others accumulated knowledge as baggage.

Ideas like hollow earth don’t emerge from pure vacuum thinking—they’re cultural memes with traceable DNA and thousands of years of history. Asking people to ignore accumulated, contextual wisdom is not your prerogative.

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