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Altgough i find discussions like this very interesting.
I still have a very hard time taking any religous statements as truth.

So many theories and views that totally go against each other.
History and these various explanations of reality is so manipulated that trying to filter out truth is extremely hard.

At least with science its somewhat possible to make experiments to verify theories or prove them wrong.
With anything spirutual it gets very murky, all faiths have been so corrupted so every camp is filled with sketchy infiltrators creating polarisation.

I wish more people could be a bit more humble when talking about these matters.
Esp when most peoples faith isnt really their own.

Majority of people ive met who are religous are born into it.
They beleive in whatever their parents do without much if any questioning or doubt.

So in many cases its just multi generational brain wash that never really evolves into a original thought or idea.

Doesnt mean there isnt truth into their faith, but for me that doesnt vibe.
Imo the human mind is programmed to never be satisfied.
This can be very bad if we channel this in a material way.
We always want more and better, more sex, more food, more power etc.

But used in a creative way it can instead be a blessing.
Make more beutiful art, more complex movements with our body, more responsibilty for our actions etc.

But without some original thinking we wont evolve our behaviour.
We will be stuck in dogma and traditions because it worked 500years ago so lets keep at it etc.

My mind is a bit like a crazy scientist, i enjoy breaking stuff and put it back together. (Mostly my mind)
Been doing various psychedelics for over 20years, done some good for me but also some bad.

Had experiences that many would call supernatural, felt like iver opened and closed various portal etc.
Been attacked by shadow beings trying to force me to jump from a window etc.

Im not saying this to claim i know more then anyone else about these things.
Mainly to point out that we have the ability to roam these other dimensions ourself.
We dont need a priest or even anyone else to explore the non material realms.

However these things are def not for everyone, the realm of the occult is only for the ones who are ready for whatever may come.

Also if you have a thirst for power then these journeys can really take you to a dark place.
Seen several people start abusing their new found spirutual information for self gain.

Esp many fake shamans using their powers to get laid LOL.
Becauce once you are given a tiny fraction of the universal healing force.
Then alot of broken and desperate people will flock to you for help.

In that situation most break and start finding ways to manipulate these poor souls.

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Revisions along what new lines do you suggest?

Well, it seems to me, based upon my observations of History and my layman’s knowledge of Physics and alternative Physics theories, that Time is Helical in nature. That…it may have an “X” and “Y” component along with Zed. So, consider that, in addition to moving forward in Zed, Time also moves around in a circle in the XY plane. Of course, it might be more complicated than this when you get into quantum mechanics and multiple dimensions, but I’m just using a KISS, (Keep it Simple, Stupid) handwavy explanation for a common sense every day experience artist kind of guy like me (because I’m not a mathematician, although I have some college level background in calculus).

If Time were to, say, move around in a circle as it moves forward, this would give us the sense of the “forward arrow of time” but at the same time also give us the sense of deja vu, the “Haven’t we all been here before?” kind of Groundhog Day kind of experience of History Repeating Itself and Rhyming. But may I also add another element to this: Oscillation, from 0 to Pi then around to 2PI, or One Revolution, 360 degrees. So, at Pi, roles become reversed, and there’s a Pole Flip.

So, for example, in 1865 it was the Republicans who did Abolition and fought for freedom from slavery, and it was the Democrats who fought against civil rights.

But then in 1965, one hundred years later, it was the Democrats who became the “Party of Civil Rights” with the Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Act and then shortly afterward, Republican Strategist Lee Atwater in 1968 suggested that Republicans use the “Southern Strategy” and instead of saying the “N-word”, just talk about “welfare and busing” and use coded, veiled words for neo-segregationism and anti-Blackness.

The roles had reversed. This was Pi or 180 degrees on the Racial situation in America, on the 100-year Civil Rights Cycle. But then this suggests that it will be the Republicans again, in 2065, who will initiate the big reforms of civil rights with reparations and economic improvements for Blacks. And the Democrats will become the New Dixie party, going all the way back 360 degrees.

But what would that look like? Does that mean that the Democrats would put on the Klan outfits again and march down the streets as they did in Woodrow Wilson’s era?

No…that would be too obvious…and it would be more subtle than that. If you think Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Transhumanism, that would be more accurate. What is going to happen is Human DNA is going to be patented and become private property of corporations, and so therefore anybody who reproduces without permission (without paying royalties) to corporations that own DNA, will be in copyright infringement. So, nanochips implanted through vaccinations at birth will prevent Humans from conceiving when they have sex, the Human version of “Terminator Seeds” like Monsanto does with Corn. So, if you want to have a child, then you will have to pay royalties to a “Genomic Consulting Firm” who will hunt down all the owners of your DNA, so that all the royalties can be paid, and this Genomic Consulting Firm can also take a cut. Like an “H&R Block” for DNA, if you will. Instead of "doing your taxes (because it’s too complex and legalistic), they “do your DNA.” And, of course, they can accept or reject you based on your genetic profile.

This is the primary way Eugenics is done in the late 21st Century / Early 22nd Century, from what I have seen in my visions. I call this system: “Free Market Capitalist-Driven Communist Totalitarianism” because the control of society is done through Corporations, who can get around the legal restrictions that protect civil rights, just as they do today with censoring free speech on Internet.

But this essentially brings back the concept of the “ownership of a Human Being,” which Lincoln outlawed in 1863. And this is just the kind of thing that Democrats and not Republicans would support. Whereas Republicans, especially MAGA Republicans, might support a voucher for a Black family to be able to own their own house, free of mortgage, free of property taxes, so that they can be independent citizens rather than renters.

So Time moves forward in a helical, vortex-like pattern just like Light does, and History oscillates and flips roles, just as electric current and em waves do.

As to Religion, may I add that a revision I would like to make is to remove the “Apocalypse of St John is Unavoidable” paradigm. And say that all the horror described in Revelation is more allegorical, and cautionary, and thus optional, avoidable, rather than Inevitable and Set in Stone. The belief in the Inevitability of Revelation’s horrors (the seven plagues and seven bowls, the Antichrist, etc)…sets the stage for actors to MANIFEST this doomsday scenario of world war and Armaggedon into being. But if Time is helical, maybe it doesn’t have to happen this way.

I’ve got an alternative kind of Rapture. Consider the idea, for example, of a Remnant of Humanity, from every tribe, religion, and nationality and race, to get on a starship and occupy a Goldilocks Zone Exoplanet and build the New Jerusalem there. On such a planet, EVERYONE is an Immigrant, so therefore no one can claim that “your ancestors stole this land from my ancestors”. Everyone has a shot at their own property and thus can begin again at the ground floor of equality. No ancestral blood ties to soil to fight over. It is a Tabula Raza. And since most fighting is over scarcity and over limited resources, limited living space, etc, this then removes that and provides Abundance, which becomes a platform for Peace.

That’s why when it says “New heavens and new earth” in Revelation it also says there will be no weeping and sorrow for the Old Order has passed away and the “Lion will Lie Down with the Lamb” (Peace). Because a new world, a new earth in Alpha Centauri or Beta Reticuli or wherever, potentially offers that opportunity.

But first we got to get the starship technology to get there.

But now we have something to work for, and hope for, and a reason for building things on this earth and a reason for our existence and a reason to build roads and railways and universities and all this good stuff. Rather than twiddling our thumbs and eating popcorn and waiting for Judgment Day and for Jesus to do it all for us, where we become passive observers, we now become active participants in our own salvation or damnation.

Of course, we might not make it too, and that’s scary too. But that’s why we should do Christian work and help the poor and all that good stuff, to create the kind of society that promotes the general welfare so that people can become literate and free enough so that they don’t have to worry about the lowest three levels of Maslow but can devote free time to the work of getting Physics knowledge so that maybe one of us can come up with that all important Warp Drive breakthrough. So that we can get to that new Earth and build that new society. It is not a Static, but an Active, Dynamic, kind of Christianity, the kind that Augustine talked about when he wrote his “City of God.”

Thanks for the reply Honeyradiance. You seem to have a vivid imagination and creativity. Did you ever read some of Joseph P Farrell’s books? You might enjoy the books on the vivid imagination and creativity speculating parts, looking in from a scientific aspect of things.

The only caution I would make, Joseph is more into the first 1000 years of Christianity not the second 1000 years!

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I have some weird theories about how my “Theory of Oscillativity” relates to Christianity too. You mentioned “the first 1000 years of Christianity” and that reminded me of something:

In the Astrological Ages, they last 2000 years and they seem to have a theme to each.
The Age of Pisces was dominated by the motto: “I Believe.” That’s when Christianity really flourished and was at its highest point, 1000 AD, and right smack in the middle of the Age of Pisces. Consider the Astrological Ages for a moment like a sine wave. When they are at their crest, in the middle, the vibration is so strong that nothing can counteract it. You get a kind of freezing of change, a kind of stalemate, static, temporary condition. A Dark Age. The vibration of “I Believe” was so high at 1000 A.D. that Religion dominated everything and nothing could counter it.

Now consider “Between two ages.” This is when the vibration of that Astrological Age is weakest, and another astrological age is coming in. This is when you have the greatest opportunity for change, and for new ideas to come in.

Thus, the greatest period in Greek thought, and Athenian Democracy, occurs in about 400 BC roughly, when Plato and Aristotle came out, and when Athenian Democracy existed and all that. Lots of new ideas flourished then. Between Two Ages. When there’s the greatest flux, and currents are flowing back and forth, and thus there is the greatest movement. Jesus also enters at this time too, 0 AD. In 400 BC, the Age of Aries is weakening, and the Age of Pisces is coming in. No vibration is strong enough to suppress all other vibrations. Thus there is diversity of thought, as well as dissention, conflict, and constant change. Thus, in the first 400 years after Christ there was tensions between Church fathers such as Gnostics and Arians and so on, before everything has hammered out and finalized at the Council of Nicaea.

Then, in 1000 AD Christianity was at its peak and all the issues had been ironed out and everything solidified and froze into Orthodoxy.

Then, as the Age of Pisces weakened and started giving way to the Age of Aquarius coming in, you started seeing rapid changes again: The Printing Press, the Invasion of America, the Reformation, Rennaissance, the foundation of the USA, and all the stuff we associate with The Modern World.

Now, the Age of Pisces was Water so rule was by the Sea. It was all about Maritime power, hence, Rome then Venice then Amsterdam/Britain.

In the Age of Aquarius, it is “I know” (Scientia) rather than “I believe” (Religio). And Rule is by Rule of the Airwaves. Therefore He who Can Rule the Airwaves (Starlink, Bluetooth, 5G, Satellites, The Cloud) will Rule the Earth and Empires will be built on Airwaves rather than Seawaves. And when “I Know” (Scientia) reaches 3000 AD, right smack in the middle of the Aquarian Age, that vibration will be at its strongest and no one will be able to challenge it. Thus, it will be pure and total Technocratic Feudalism, with Science being used as the justification rather than Religion to shut down all free thought. It will be Aquarius’ own version of Dark Age Suck.

So, in order to escape this trap of falling into the patterns of the Astrological Ages, we have to go to a place where precession is different, planets are different, suns are different, and thus it becomes a big, blank, unknown, astrologically. Where no one knows anymore what Astrology is so therefore no one can hoard astrological knowledge and use it to their benefit like the Elites do. Our Astrology is based off of our multigenerational observations based on the movements of planets in our own solar system. If you are born in early April like I am you are an Aries, so your ruling planet is Mars.

But what if you are born in a colony in the Trappist System, a red dwarf star with multiple earthlike planets? What’s your ruling influence if you are born in ____ month on Trappist 1c? Trappist 1e? Trappist 1f?

???

It’s a blank check, and no one knows. You are, in effect, free from the constraints imposed by the patterns of Astrology. If it’s a Dark Age on Earth in 3000 AD and Aquarius’ ruling energy vibration is so strong that no one can counter it…

No problem…

Just get on a starship and go to Alpha Vertigis or whatever, and it will probably have a completely different, unknown astrology.

I argue nothing has been ironed out in 1000 AD when it comes to Christianity, quite the opposite. I see a lot of scientism today, but hardly science since it is being actively suppressed. I recommend reading Joseph’s God, History, and Dialectic series especially volume II available on Lulu.com.

Right, well, yeah, but…

In 1000 AD political power had become so centralized in the Catholic Church, in the West, that there was no longer significant opposition to it or anything that could counter it. If course, there was the Byzantium Church and Islam, and they were huge centers of religious power too. But a lot of centralization had occurred. that’s what I meant. of course, there were many different sects still around. But I don’t think there was nearly as much of a threat within these churches, by opposing streams of thought in these churches, as there was in, say, 200 AD. I mean, you had Origen and Manicheanism and Menander and the Gnostics and all kinds of pagan ideas competing, and many of the doctrines of infallibility and celibacy of priests, as well as other doctrines that we are familiar with from the Catholic church were not formal yet and all agreed upon yet…

Differences were far more profound in the first three hundred years than, say, 1000. I would think differences were more subtle and finer points by then. But then, I only know a cursory glance at Church history.

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I don’t think Russian Orthodoxy is a small sect. Looking at history, don’t you think it odd Russia is constantly in the eye of storm to be dismantled? Even today Russian Orthodoxy is being dismantled in the Ukraine in not a peaceful manner.

I can only suggest in considering Christianity isn’t all unified and steeped in same Western Christian thinking.

Oh…, I never said that Eastern Orthodoxy was a small sect though. I said: “of course, there was the Byzantium Church and Islam, and they were huge centers of religious power too.” meaning that they were two of the other players of the Big Three (Islam, Roman Catholicism, and Orthodox). I meant all the little sects within these churches. Just as you used to have a lot of different car companies early on in the auto industry and then they became consolidated into The Big Three (Ford, Chrysler, and GM), all the little sects and faiths had been either consolidated or marginalized by Orthodox and Roman. So, I didn’t categorize Orthodox as a small sect. Of course it was not. And, of course, Russia is being attempted to be dismantled. I am actually SYMPATHETIC to Russia and the Orthodox Church and am critical of NATO’s attempts to destroy Russia. And I’m well aware of it, believe me! It is awful how they want to get rid of Russia. I can get into that and it’s a long can of worms. I think it has a lot to do with Energy too, because Russia is a huge oil producer and uranium producer and Russia wants to grow and work with China to grow civilizationally and advance into Space. And why shouldn’t they be able to? But the Collective West, right now, is hellbent on a course of depopulating the world and imposing their “Carbon-free” Great Reset where they envision a Hunger Games type society where people are confined to their 15 minute cities and are only allowed their carbon allotment, and at a population of only a billion worldwide living at a standard below that of Mexico. Down with that!

But Russia wants to move forward with uplifting Africa and the Middle East out of poverty and into being affluent countries in their own right so that they can be customers, of Russian fertilizer, Russian gas and uranium, and customers of Chinese-made products, which are also powered by Russian energy. Nothing wrong with that! I’m all FOR that.

Another thing to consider…

Russia is an overland empire, and essentially a “Frontier Society” so it is alot like America in a lot of ways. Big land mass, connected by railways and roads.

Whereas Britain is a small island with only limited space and needs maritime power to project its power. Hence: banking, finance, insurance, and real estate, and speculation, combined with a mindset of scarcity and limited resources.

Whereas Russia had this vast open frontier into which it could expand and travel overland like the American West was, so it engendered this “Can Do” approach to science and working around technical problems. Which is why Russia had one of the best rocket programs and space programs of all, and some of the best nuclear energy engineers.

Whereas Britain, because of its island scarcity and its influence by Venetian bankers, has been wanting to thwart and destroy Russia, as well as destroy the United States, by infiltration, from within. Because the British Elites want to maintain control by maritime chokepoints and cannot stand the idea of a “Trans Siberian Railway” like Lincoln, Henry C Carey, Sergie Witte, and Czar Alexander II wanted to do. Remember: Czar Alexander freed the Serfs in 1861, right around the same time Lincoln was issuing the Emancipation Proclaimation. I’m all for the US being friends with Russia rather than enemies. Don’t get me started on my endless frustration with NATO, lol!

Resources are a constant battle and reason for war, but I think the Orthodoxy of the east is so different from the west that the war is a deep spriritual one, and has nothing to do with resources. Joseph has written extensively about this schism. I can only point to his books assuming you are interested in his ideas since you are on his forum after all.

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I will get around to reading more of his books. I mainly been listening to Farrell for years, first on The Bytes Show and then on Dark Journalist. I’m more of a podcast, listener kind of guy than a book guy. I mean, I DO read books, but I gotta admit I’m not very good at breezing through thousands of pages in a day like some I know are. And, I’m envious. I wish I could read and finish books more, but I’m just too distracted and scatterbrained and am all over the place, picking up tidbits here and there, podcasts, articles, etc. I DO read a lot of articles though.

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If it is any consolation, Joseph’s latest book “The Demon In The Ekur” is a rather thin one as is his “The Tower of Babel Moment”. Maybe you could start there.

Yeah, I don’t know enough of Orthodoxy to state…but…is this a Catholic/Roman vs Russian Orthodox spiritual battle, though? Or is a Britain vs Russian war?

Because the way I see it is that it IS a spiritual war. But also a spiritual war vs America too. It is a war between Can Do vs Can’t Do. Don’t you think those are spiritual qualities / issues? One mindset says: Can Do (The American West, frontiersmen spirit, the Russian Rocket Cosmist Dream) vs Can’t Do: (British Science, Smithsonian, Newton, Nature Magazine, Climate Pessimism, Degrowth, Depopulationism, Malthusianism, Transhumanism.)

Dugin says it’s “Nominalism” and the idea of not belonging to any Identity vs Russian / Islamic / Eastern Asian Traditionalism.

Most of the machinations against Russia over the past two hundred years have been done by Britain, more than anybody. From Palmerston and Lord Urquhart’s financing of Karl Marx, to the MI5/6 support of Trotsky in overthrowing the Czar, to the Crimean War, to the bad deals and false promises made during WWI to give the Russians the Dardanelles, which were revoked.

British Science (the science dominating the West and the Great Reset of today) is a Science of Can’t Do. That’s a deep spiritual quality. Pessimism vs Optimism about what the Human species can or cannot achieve.

Both and…
As already stated his “God, History, and Dialectic” series expains it all. Sadly, not the easiest read especially if you are not into reading. His “Yahweh The Two-Faced God” is rather thin too.

From my standpoint, though, the real enemy, the real threat, that elites in the West are afraid of is Africa. Chinese manufacturing of roads and railways is uplifting Africa and Russian energy is powering Chinese manufacturing. So the Elites want to thwart Africa by destroying Russia and China. If you destroy Russia (“Decolonize Russia”–that’s what Atlantic Magazine promotes), then you cut China off of natural gas and uranium and oil. Then China can’t be a manufacturing giant and industrial economy anymore. Then China can’t empower Africa.

Elites have been writing about Africa ever since Brzezinski’s “Between Two Ages, The Technotronic Era” and Kissinger’s memo’s on Population Policy in the early 1970s’.

What are they so scared of about Africa?

It’s simple: Africa has the largest youth growth anywhere in the world. Therefore, Africa has the greatest potential of talent from which to raise up engineers, scientists, and so on, to solve problems of environment, energy, reforestation, soil regeneration, greening of deserts, etc. With Africa’s natural resources, and its minerals under its soil, that will make Africa into a giant. A superpower. Unstoppable. Rich, prosperous, and affluent. Bye Bye Importance of British Elites. Bye Bye!

I understand, but all you are mentioning is physical going ons. The root to all this, in my humble opinion is spiritual. To get to tranhumanism all ties to the spiritual need to be cut.

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Imo its total opposite…

Without insulting anyones faith, i beleive religions are merely tools to fool people into wars about resources.

Because saying that “we need to cleanse these savages” is a way easier sell then “we need to invade this place and steal everyones stuff”

With that said various teachings still have alot of merit.
Alot of people are just better people when they beleive in a higher power.
But some use their faith as a excuse to be aholes.

But i beleive that the intention of the people controling the religions is usually self gain.

Its just that some are more open then others, many belief systems tries to use a sense of moral superiority to excuse their ruthless wars.

Whereas others at least are honest enough to say that “Those fools are weak and their god is fake, so lets kill em and show how strong we are”

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@Soupcommie
Spiritual is not the same as religion for me. In that, I agree many religions are used as tools to manipulate. Be it to plunder and or whatever.

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