Altgough i find discussions like this very interesting.
I still have a very hard time taking any religous statements as truth.
So many theories and views that totally go against each other.
History and these various explanations of reality is so manipulated that trying to filter out truth is extremely hard.
At least with science its somewhat possible to make experiments to verify theories or prove them wrong.
With anything spirutual it gets very murky, all faiths have been so corrupted so every camp is filled with sketchy infiltrators creating polarisation.
I wish more people could be a bit more humble when talking about these matters.
Esp when most peoples faith isnt really their own.
Majority of people ive met who are religous are born into it.
They beleive in whatever their parents do without much if any questioning or doubt.
So in many cases its just multi generational brain wash that never really evolves into a original thought or idea.
Doesnt mean there isnt truth into their faith, but for me that doesnt vibe.
Imo the human mind is programmed to never be satisfied.
This can be very bad if we channel this in a material way.
We always want more and better, more sex, more food, more power etc.
But used in a creative way it can instead be a blessing.
Make more beutiful art, more complex movements with our body, more responsibilty for our actions etc.
But without some original thinking we wont evolve our behaviour.
We will be stuck in dogma and traditions because it worked 500years ago so lets keep at it etc.
My mind is a bit like a crazy scientist, i enjoy breaking stuff and put it back together. (Mostly my mind)
Been doing various psychedelics for over 20years, done some good for me but also some bad.
Had experiences that many would call supernatural, felt like iver opened and closed various portal etc.
Been attacked by shadow beings trying to force me to jump from a window etc.
Im not saying this to claim i know more then anyone else about these things.
Mainly to point out that we have the ability to roam these other dimensions ourself.
We dont need a priest or even anyone else to explore the non material realms.
However these things are def not for everyone, the realm of the occult is only for the ones who are ready for whatever may come.
Also if you have a thirst for power then these journeys can really take you to a dark place.
Seen several people start abusing their new found spirutual information for self gain.
Esp many fake shamans using their powers to get laid LOL.
Becauce once you are given a tiny fraction of the universal healing force.
Then alot of broken and desperate people will flock to you for help.
In that situation most break and start finding ways to manipulate these poor souls.