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#64

Totally agree!

With everything i said i still respect various faiths including parts of most of the big religions.

I just think that most “followers” just accept most dogma and are just in it because of social pressure.
(Usually you either beleived in whatever was around or got killed/tortured untill you accepted whatever god/s were force fed down your throat)

But imo most of these faiths are still built on some foundation of truth, but to reach those levels you need to study and filter out what was there from the begining and not just inserted for some agenda)

Im no schoolar, but in most cases i know alot more about the religions then the people I know who are part of any of the faiths.
The most commin exception is the people I know who became christian in adult age.

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#65

Great post. I think you lay out many of the challenges people face to come to terms with the concept of religion.

May I add, as @Honeyradiance suggested - much of this uncertainty may be understood from the same concepts of Time and Space discussed. We develop theories and dogmas of the universe, and these invariably lead upstream to other conclusions. Or as you say, many people just accept what they are told, and the ‘truth’ becomes their own.

But these are all traps. A thing unexamined is a thing not understood. While you rightly question dogma, you also acknowledge the ‘spiritual’ nature of reality. Let me suggest that the ‘programmed dissatisfaction’ you mention could also be the grand and innate technique of growth - spiritual or otherwise.

What is the trap? You already implied it when referring to ‘borrowed faith’. I had the same reconning when I rejected, for me, the absurdities of my ‘fundamentalist’ background. I threw out all the babies in this murky bathwater. and was ultimately reinvigorated by a still murkier pool. But the answer to one thing is never as simple as adopting the opposite.

I really enjoyed your post because it described the battle we must all go through to arrive at wisdom. Most people shy away from it because it’s too uncomfortable. But remember my suggestion - that we are not dissatisfied by a ‘bug’ in our programming. Consider the possibility that the bug is really a homing signal, and you are forced, by man’s nature, to make the trip wearing night goggles.

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#66

@Soupcommie
I think it is fine whatever your beliefs are if it helps you, but does it hurt to know the “base template” a prolific writer like Mr Farrell uses? It does not mean one has to agree, but sometimes I feel people are more interested in getting their sole point of vue across and nothing else.

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#67

Def doesnt hurt, more likely its a neccesity to get any kind of deeper understanding…

I rarely take my own beliefs or opinion too seriously, im no scholar so dont really feel i can argue with anyone on that level.
I merely enjoy comparing different views and try to absorb what seems useful for my own life.

My educational backround is mostly in the realm of human physiology.
Specificly in fields of manual therapy and rehab through movement.

In those fields everything is about results, you either get someone better or worse by whatever intervention you tried.

So a big part of the job is to take in information, then make a thesis of how to improve various qualites that hoppfully will improve the current state of the client.
But most times i need to change course after some time.
Becauce what i learned the first time will usually have changed after a few sessions.

Being open minded is a huge part of the process.
People are very different, so every intervention needs a personal touch to work as well as possible.

Its here it gets strange, becauce the placebo effect is a big part of all medicine.
If i cant get the person in front to buy in or get into a certain state of mind then it wont work aswell as it could.

So depending on a persons personal beliefs i may have to use different attitudes or words to put them in “trance” So to speak.
This becauce people in pain are usually stuck in a certain mindstate.
Without “voodooing” them out of their “painstate” it will be alot harder to break the “curse” they have brought on themself.

#68

How far back does this go, Templars, Phoenicians, looks like boats are turning up in archaeology pre ice age and further? Are these trade routes related related to these?

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#69

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What does he mean??

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#70

Thank goodness that gen. Macgregor is already retired and doesn’t run any military in US. He has been announcing, demise of UKR army for almost 2 years now and unequivocal win for Russia for as long. NATO is not going anywhere, as long as Nazi International are in the game.

#71

@QVBB
All American generals, retired and or active, are like your soldiers, cowering behind somebody elses back.
When it comes to foreign politics, the US acted disgracefully on all levels for decades upon decades. Sadly, that is what EU leaders think they must emulate, and in doing so the Europeans are paying a hefty price of still to hit full poverty never seen before. Many Europeans are stil asleep and not prepared, not seeing what is coming.

If WW3 breaks out I advice to defend your own keep within US borders because if one of your soldiers turns up on my doorstep, I won’t consider it an ally!

#72

What is coming?..

#73

@Divergent
Civil unrest, poverty, hunger.

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#74

We already have those things, we just refuse to see them. What else is coming?
Oh yes and by the way what is that thing called Europe or EU and Europeans and that thing called America or USA and Americans are?
What do they even mean? Are they tribes, nations, peoples?What is the level of cohesion between those people who call themselves Europeans or Americans? In fact, does it even exist? In terms of identity.

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#75

The scale of those things will grow quickly once triggered.

#76

It has always been triggered. Since ancient times. That is not something new that comes, it has always been there. We all have it in us. If anyone thinks that a change in the quantity or scale of people’s suffering will change anything for the better or worse permanently , they are lying to themselves.

#77

I don’t understand what “it” refers to in that sentence.

I guess I am a little more shortsighted and selfish as I am not looking to whether the next round of global misery will impose a permanent change for humanity.

We all have our lot and some unknown but fixed number of days. I still have the ability to do something with mine, for better or worse both for me, and for others.

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#78

In what capacity has he been wrong?
Ukraine is getting slaughtered and the backing from Nato has barely made a dent in the capacity for russia to dominate them in battle.

Now tbh i have no idea what really is happening down there.
Most likely most information from both sides is propaganda and fake videos.

However whatever is getting sent to Ukraine have either been sold on the black market or gets turned into scrap metal.

Nato has sent all kinds of mixed weaponsystems that may or may not be compatible with each other.
They also havent got any capacity to do repairs or maintance on the junk they receive.
Most of these systems needs competent and specially trained personel to operate.

If you study russian warfare, then it gets obvious they use very different tactics then the west.
Their whole warfare is based on bleeding their opponents over a long time.
They dont blitzkrieg but instead move very slowly while forcing their opponent into trenches where they can use long range weapons to decimate their helpless foes.

And now Nato will dump ukraine for the chosen people instead.
Id be suprised if Zelensky will be alive next year, he has done his part and will be sacrifised or put away somewhere before he can speak about things.

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#79

“it” refers to accumulated potential from previous generations, whose heir you are, like all of us.

Why not?

Visible. What do you choose better or worse?

#80

Being a “bear of little brain”, I do not possess sufficient mental capacity nor energy to expend on pondering “impact permanence” for the next round of global agony, misery, and death.

Pain hurts, and my instinct and actions are to prevent and/or reduce it when I have opportunity to do so; first for me, then family, friends and community.

I believe I stepped into an esoteric conversation in which I have little to offer and has become off-topic for this thread. I shall politely bow out.

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#81

Well, it seems that spiritual gas cooking works, at least in this case, if not before in the Ukrainian Russian War and in all others before, etc. So many people literally cooked.And Gaza has a lot of gas for cooking.Right about that.

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#82

@Divergent
Don’t be daft. SPECTRE will never let that gas go to any EU country.

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#83

We can’t forget our “Cousins” out there…how do they fit into the Bigger Picture?! :thinking: