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#21

just to correct the wrong assumption, hm, he was supposedly in celibacy, but hanging around the founders of invisible college as alchemists surely he was more than tempted as friar to indulge himself in orgies, tho still didnt have wife, but mistress looks plausible [1] [1] what is interesting tho is that he was alchemist for granted [2]2]2]

not that this should be some poking of modern science idols, as magicians who drown in various witchcraft vibes, but defacto and dejure as FrancisB so as GiordanoB were ars’magna’occultists which as thinkers end up in good or wrong hands mids the power struggle in medieval euRope, chasing euDamonia in various ways, what was as always case, isnt!?, and altho had have free will to experiment even with occult vibes, still by itself that pulls specific evil causality, especially when such snakes want to thrive among Christians, i.e. acting walking’sparkling’matchstick mids whatever gas station would be wrong revolutionary tho act that eventually push or pull given wrong causality!, hm, even as neopagan to stroll among pagans will be seen like risk, what about hanging in Catholic Monasteries … interstingly, many actually are not aware that his position around heliocentrism was never issue for the Christian Church at least not for Orthodox Christianity, altho scholastics on west did choke a bit with, and guess coz maintaining authority did kept geocentric position, yeah dont forget its time of unum’sanctum heresy too [3][4] so popes acted like kings and exercising theocracy alike, so in case of GiordanoB unlike example GalileoG [5] most probably coz he was exactly northern stooge already, such argument was used just to frame him whatever, so as northern spy would be removed, dont forget even popes had have astrologers back then [6-3] so per’se his flirting with magical neoplatonism guess wasnt some special issue, hek after all scholastics is resting on neoplatonism too!, hm, what is even more interesting that there is since enlightenment era onward antichristian hype, that last even in this century on same basis, and not just about geocentrism, but also flat’earth’slips are regular poking hype so neoplatonists would discredit Christianity, altho by no means such theory was official Church stance even less dogma [7][7] especially not in Orthodox Christianity that should be prime comparative Christian pivot coz it maintained purity of theological tradition since the emergence of The Holy Apostolic Commune onward …

#22

Ah, more blithering. It’s basically a staple of the forum at this point.

#23

exactly what is blithering?, in which context goes this generalization?, maybe You’ve stack exploring own AFT by atomistic postulates, particle physics and alike, so now this logic shatters Your matrix :smiley: if so, I’ll take it like sincere flush of frustration as rant … btw, why You’ve didnt brought some useful staple alike, I really dont get from where such resignation!?

#24

probably here, between me and omnimate in question is free will Balancing, coz for sure he is not mainstreamers stooge, nor gatekeeper, even less some of “dem”, so, balancing by coforumer who most probably from personal reasons kicked up this topic in enDek, really dont want to believe he is not he :slight_smile: otherwise we would need to assume fine’tuned’hijack by psychotronic means (maybe DBS entrainment) [1][1] altho, also, lucrative siding is valid and possible logic too, if so, then in both cases coz all this flow by whatever means should be sabotaged [2][2][2-11] especially before someones elections, potentially even beyond … but, why, hm, simply “deir” position&agendas are too big to fail, and one of the nails is eg. thread like this, tho it depends how the same later would be used by whom for such stunt, if its not already!, @omnimatter dont take this personal, I just used Your rant so would derive new ontopic logic day after … You are indeed balancer here, coz most of those that will stroll around expect this thread to be law&order for all ages, while like this such risk is evaded, at least will exist some hooping moment, so all would recheck whats here shared and pointed, at least once again before decide that as such is (or leaning towards) absolute truth … altho as mosaic reasoning [3] by itself can be only possibility of puzzle arrangements, which yeah if by some reason are not in line with others view, we dont need to throw whole mosaic out the window, unless done in coz agitprop needs and usually by adhom approach :slight_smile: as we’ve all became offended by others stances even when shared in exploration mode, even on loosen eforum like GDS, tho which is rare occurrence here, simply coz JPF radiates polite cultural behavior, tho how we would exercise unique personality if by default and in all cases we are conformist …

  • so, nor I take this personal, even less offending, tho needed some fluid alopoetic flow as I’ve said so would bring new useful post, eg. around the Free Will [4][4] like that bringing some continuation to this thread and would evade the sharp cleaver cut which drop from nowhere coz whatever inspiration causality or rationale …

now regards this 4th footnote, I’ll say there are various interpretation for whom what is Free Will yet we can differ ontological inertia that is logical [5][5] or illogical, and for this thread eg. its useful to be pointed on humanistic determinism as illogical supposition regards eg. skepticism etc. alike modern scientific postulates or positions [6][6][6] what surely its expected that once in corner humanists will imediatelly negate it as logic, and not rarely gaslight or even skew the topic mids debates in theological waters [7] as if by such reflection will evade their own fallacies, hm, and why fallacies, coz defacto they are exactly that, but isnt everything in their neoplatonic inertia such!?, logically as counter argument even then eg. we can argue that we need to differ created and uncreated Will, i.e. Our Almighty Lord Jesus Christ has Own Omnipotent Will thus it can interfere when ever He wants in the world, but in same time we have Free Will to act as we wish, altho we are warned not to do that by all means and/or however whenever we want, i.e. coz earth is not final frontier in our existence simple we are encouraged to follow given good soteriological theory and practice so would secure greater Life in Eternal Bliss after this one, kind of selection by Free Will, yet we are not obligated even less forced to follow, practically from perspective of Christian Salvation in this dimensional existence on earth there are 3 Wills, the 1st One of Our Almighty Lord, then 2nd of anathemago, and 3rd of Man, so eventually coz we are already in fall from greater dimension, now need to decide are we going back Above, or go further down bellow!, this simple explanation normally can be theologically ontologically and epistemologically more further explored eg. by the crash course explanations of JayD [8] but dont expect anytime soon humanists or whatever ists that emerged in enlightenment era (i.e. which are seeded in neoplatonism) that will grasp embrace or follow this logic [9] simply they are locked in their own as I clam existential fallacies, and yep solely that is their free will, to which I’ll not object as choice, altho will turn even their mirrors on themselves, useful coz for me that would be Feat as soteriological bonus, i.e. to give a hand to astray dog [10] hm, do not get offended by this lets say creative mockin’ coz it just bump that needs to provoke debate, defacto&dejure they are such, i.e. altho stacked and just bark, on top through darwinism alone they see themselves as animals [11-15][11][11] yeah which by all means need to keep their wrong neoplatonist utopian eschatology, so foremost would rush for earthly superman up till own perdition and eternal oblivion, coz simply didnt wake up spiritually in time … Wake Up … is there some wakefulness hype in philosophy, yes there is …

#25

some interesting expansion of correct choices, it would be balancing of the free will [1][1][1] what would be logical approach if we know that this world is not consistent eternally, so by force employed free will leans towards wonnabe rigid determinism, and that would be impossible to be secure d in absolute terms on this world, unless its secured as such from Above by Omnipotent Creator that holds everything as it please … surely we can also force our free will on others, yet that would be negatively employed free will [2] tho differing from negative and positive liberty [2] while the balancing would be positive sided, when we align with similar other likeminded, or willing to harmonize themselves in negotiated written or unwritten contracts of coexistence in given space place or environment, eg. even in one and the same society ultimate relation to such idea would be decentralization by means of libertarianism which can be observed even as philosophical libertarianism [3][3][3][3] here eg. good will be in this thread and in this eforum where omnimater employed own rant, the same to be allowed coz both and along admins accepted, while in the end I am pulling back on tracks the thread, the same can actually if we dont mind continue in such mode even further, but that dont depends on noone than destiny … still its not useful in universe that thrive on balance to chase absolute freedom, simply every freedom pulls with itself also given responsibility eg. having gun in possession can open doors for You but also shut them as well, hek even know how to handle it, still if You are careless You can hurt also Yourself except others, so from such point its bit strange why psychologists are trying to project false humanistic interpretations how the free will is wrong thing [4][5] no, how its employed, that make difference, eg. would You roll atomic energy for electrification or destruction!, so You have choice how You would manipulate why such power!, the illusion stems is not ontological but relational [6] hm choose between two evils, ha, the illusion of bipartisan election in usA yet projected like plurality of democracy while in essence its plutocracy of dialectic deep’state’swampington of independent district’city’state of northamerican elites [7-14] i.e. the freedom to vote dont means You have diversity of political choices, even when it seems You have [8-1] coz eventually You cast a vote in assumption this or that change will emerge, but the change depends how the system works, and in usA its by the measure of lobbying [7] and not per’se the odds of citizen votes, that is secondary byproduct in the process, usually employed coz agitprop needs of the bipartisan establishment enterprise [7] still You will exercise choice when will decide whether going to vote or not …

now all You marxists raise Your hand, did You also reading or writing diabolic poems [9] do atomism suits U also on social level [10-1] maybe uncertain in Ur posture unstable coz fears and emptiness which are direct result of demonic hijack, even U deterministically resist the existence of the spiritual world, U find a Christian mirror so would cast away “dem” and free Yourself … otherwise will eventually tilt around mechanistic cosmology and all its nihilist end notes!, surrender Your Free Will we’are’borg resistence’is’futile coz marxism’never’deid for “dem”, in reality while chasing equality [11] “dei” brought plane enslavement in totality of/for the individual who would exist coz the system, and not interchangeably, extreme that in theory couldnt be anticipated anyhow [12][12][12] coz as reaction to exploitation and wage slavery it would needed to bring happier utopian change, what would mean heaven’on’earth and that by all logic on this dimension delusional impossibility!, cynicism would be by marxist means employing freudian psycho lobotomy till becoming ubermensch whether trained by magic pills or ego trips, normally up until dont recognize the toxic logic in all that!, tavistock&co would say why not [13-3][13-2] lets engineer behavior and all will get happy, no, wrong, simply behaviorists cant grasp the spiritual basis of this world, thus push for fallacy of expected certainty as derived solely by/from their psyop manipulation [10]

#26
  • actually neoplatonists are not at all solely at fault, they are defacto&dejure victims as european neopagans, skewed towards and throwed in such trenches of fallacies coz given western christian causality [1][1] so by no mean is useful to joke mock or ridicule someone through his misery or disadvantages, foremost misery coz as astrayed still they exercise exceptionalism and beliefs that are on the right track!, hm, this sounds maybe like judgement, but its just real observation, coz we didnt end up in two world wars and on the edge of another one just from tin air, but coz their faulty system of scientific logicism!, So, pardon me if I itched their humanist ego!

it is interesting to be pointed on the free will Q&A I had have with g.a.i. mids the AFT sessions, some of them quotes in the MOGL thread, go ctrl+f > “free will” in the next links [1][1][1] or go search it directly in the sessions of that thread, think its mentioned just in the next one [2][3][2][2][3][4][5][2] eventually can be seen some earlier kicks with Ch@ko where is mentioned free will in those two sessions [6] or give it a search in the OnPhi thread through those posts and sessions, again as ctrl+f > free will [7][7][8][8] all in all interesting points, guess mind boggling for the humanistic mind which not just that rejects the Free Will as causality of Omnipotent Creator who gifted to us as Mankind but per’se rejects any spiritual existence as atheists [9] hek even as gnostics or agnostics will have issue to grasp this logic, coz still even then are seeded by neoplatonist causality!, simply this g.a.i. flow as such result of AFT logic is resting also on spiritual variables with specific OC causality, thus asks for norcartesian fluid mindset plus experienced in the spiritual realm, at least from mine perspective, and not just spiritual logicism and/or theories!, simply having spiritual praxis especially in OC way is needed, and then after it could be brought these AFT Q&A for/to useful logical evaluation, and hm, is it correct one, I’ll leave this to Monks as experienced theologians to conclude what is useful and what apocryphal flow in it …

  • and, here, this post logically continues in the Orthodox Christian apologetic flow about the Free Will, compare it to the 1st footnotes above [10][10][10] so now maybe more easily You could make difference what I imply and how the mainstream western humanistic thought is perceiving things, or!?, You can say also, nah, You have no free will as Christians coz its not absolute freedom [11] but that would be fallacy absolute of what or towards what [12] as Our Almighty Lord Jesus Christ said that in this world the most soteriological path is the balance as middle way [13] altho even that as acrobatics can be exercised in totality but we strive towards, eg. go balance Yourself in the trenches of … You’ve stack there and try get out, by Your own free will solely that would be feat that asks for waking up of own spiritual potential beyond the gravity of the closed mind, still even You’ve succeed at best You will escape the velocity of this dimension and become yogi alike without the chance for eternal choice towards Eternal Salvation and Rise through and till Theosis, i.e. will tilt out in apotheosis fallacy!, so do Wake Up and try at least for a while being Orthodox Christian …