This is likely 1 of many.
See “The 3 Majors of Takedown”.
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@Bill10558 but others do hence you may not be able to connect to them. That’s what appears to have happened here. On the e-commerce side Rogers seems to be a common carrier for atm machines as well as a provider for payment systems when using a debit or visa card.
Makes sense. My plan does allow me to call Canada and I did have call someone there a couple of weeks ago.
A good reason to always have some cash on your person and more at home.
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Well ain’t that somethin’…:
https://cyberpolygon.com/news/cyber-polygon-2022-to-take-place-on-july-8/
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“Small business owners were among those hardest hit by the outage, which left them unable to process debit card payments.”
“Richard Leblanc, a professor of governance, law and ethics at York University in Toronto, said the outage was a learning opportunity for threat actors, such as Russian state-sponsored hackers, who can now see how vulnerable Canadian industry, financial institutions and health-care systems are to an attack on a telecom provider.”
lol - I mean, how obvious do the morons need it to be, exactly? Russia, really. Russia? That’s what you have for us?
put your child in a face mask, and cover your own face, too.
THE SHIP IS GOING DOWN, boo-hoo-hoo.
WHERE WE GO ONE, WE GO ALL-----> STRAIGHT TO HELL.
how can so-called patriots read the above statement and believe they aren’t part of THE HOAX?
We are TOLD TO SEPARATE FROM THE WICKED.
Not go DOWN IN THE CESSPOOL with them. They are clearly DIGGING THEIR OWN GRAVES.
2 Corinthians 6:17
“Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,”
This is an interesting situation that we are seeing in Canada. I have been involved in core networks upgrades in the fintech world, and I know a couple of things you might want to consider when evaluating this sort of stuff.
Couple of key concepts first:
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The core network descriptor is a kind of hand wave to any of a number of possible technologies; examples, core national routing infrastructure, core international routing infrastructure, central switching network (of which there will be more than one "central node), load-balancing networks, core network-protocol linked networks (which are distributed, and somewhat overlap the core network hardware and the core routing infrastructure). There are a lot of different systems that can fairly be described as a “core-network”.
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Core-networks are a complicated mess of hardware aligned to some fairly straightforward principles that are scaled up mitigate theoretical single points of failure, but which actually achieve aggregate statistical mitigations rather than actual mitigations - think of the core network of lots of machines acting as a composite “single entity”, but which are all subject to the same fault, should it occur: like upgrading all the routers with new code all at the same time, for example.
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A core network upgrade (if that is what is really the culprit) usually means a firmware, or OS, upgrade to core codes comprising a single network “feature”, or system. An example of the system might be the routers that use networking shortcuts to cut down the processing time of all network traffic in order to send information destined for a geographical location to another network to do the actual delivery. Think of the old mail system (Name, Street, City, State, Country, Postcode/Zip or whatever - certain centres only care about the country, some about the State, some about the City and so on). Each of those sorting centres can legitimately be described as core “features” or systems to achieve a single goal, even comprised of multiple hardware boxes joined to a “network”.
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The centre of a network - and I mean the very centre, where all traffic (in reality, all addressing issues, not necessarily all actual payload traffic) is sorted for regional distribution, generally is pretty stable and does not change very much. Network tables are mostly static, and you want them that way. Much pain is avoided by leaving them the hell alone, and any changes to them is very very very reluctantly approached. The benefit of new network protocols is usually weighed against the cost benefit of going through the pain of downtime, let alone catastrophic outcomes, such as those observed in Canada. It could be an end of life issue (read, insurance issue), it could be an adoption issue (when code was upgraded to include IPV6, for example), it could be an efficiency issue (better summarisation algorithms, for example), it could be a hardware limitation issue (more CPU, more VRAM, NVRAM, anything reaching limitation horizon). Really, you don’t want to touch it, and you test the heck out of it at a test site before you go wild.
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Downtime is counted in money, contractually. I worked at an international bank whose core network traffic was counted in the trillionsUSD per day. No-one gets close to that kind of hardware without being aware of the costs of failure. Its usually a small team of very trusted professionals, typically working in the systems development groups of the product manufacturers themselves. Cisco core networks people, Ericcson’s engineers and so on. Banks and telcos pay them well to develop the code, make the recommendations, and implement the changes under guarantees. Everyone’s sphincter is tight through the whole process.
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Small business is way at the end of the chain of anyone to give a damn about as far as the telco is concerned. Its the datacentre crowd who are really interested in who’s to blame for why the Azure network was offline for 2 days (or exactly however many minutes of outage suffered by Azure, or Google, or whatever… Microsoft, for example, typically charges upwards of 1millionUSD per minute of outage if you have the juicy contract to serve out their software to those small business users). Those fights will be legendary, and will probably knock this telco out, I suspect.
Ok, that’s 20 years of networking in the real world put in a nutshell for you. What am I getting at, you may ask?
Well, it’s like this. You probably won’t find out what core network was being worked on, the people in the middle of this are still trying to decide who did what wrong, who’s to blame and where to send the insurance bills. But you can reverse engineer the outcome to figure out what was being worked on and you can kind of take a guess at the type of upgrade that was being done to have caused the reported outages. But, I would caution anyone, it would be a guess, and there is not enough information yet to make it.
I had heard all of Canada was affected, then I saw it was a region of Canada only - way up north somewhere, and I don’t know what is yet true. So, it’s not even agreed what geography was affected yet, let alone what traffic was actually affected. Was all traffic affected, or just the traffic to and from the data centres, or was is a general distribution network problem? We don’t know yet, or at least, I don’t know yet.
Things we do know:
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It was a planned outage. Whatever upgrade took place was intentionally done. It’s unlikely to be a “hack” or “the Russians did it” in that case. There will be a massive paper trail leading up to the change, and the fact it occurred late in the week is a good indicator of the planned outage story. No-one does network changes early or midweek, overtime doesn’t even come into it. Systems must be running on Monday morning, come hell or highwater.
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The CEO is fronting damage control. Lots of money is involved.
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The news focus is on the average joe and his ability to buy a coffee and transact generally.
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No network hardware company names are out in the open yet. This will be the biggest industry story of the year, and I haven’t heard what companies were involved. That’s a side effect of the money and blame-game taking place, and who foots the bill. I’d be interested to hear who takes the hit for this one.
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I haven’t seen any other governments making statements about this issue yet. It will be interesting to see who pipes up about it, but if you want to know what the outcomes of war on the internet looks like, government-of-wherever, it looks like this. Except with explosions too, I guess.
That’s where I am with this story, anyway. Just thought I’d throw 2 cents into the mix.
And by the way, those decision making centres that Mr Putin mentioned? Core networks are “decision making” centres in the literal sense, and it apparently does not take a hypersonic missile to knock them out.
Who knows, and even if they do, who’s going to say?
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Enter their solution: Central bank digital currency. A new, robust, centralized, super-secure network for children covering their faces and the moron adults who follow this SHITSHOW.
I vote no.
But I know most of you will follow these cretins to hell.
As evidence: fake pandemic fear parade to injection facilities.
PROCEED TO TREATMENT FACILITIES FOR PROCESSING.
Oh sure, that’s not a LIVING NIGHTMARE! Thanks a lot.
You better repent, is all I’m saying.
It was all across Canada. Calling and texting was not affected if you weren’t a Rogers subscriber. Most problems were with e-commerce systems not being able to process sales using debit and visa cards. Venders who asked for cash payments were ok as long as the customers had enough cash to pay.
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I read something where a customer had no cash, owner gave him item and customer came back next day and paid. That’s cool.
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This might have the positive side effect of reminding people just how important it is not to lose the option of using cash.
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Love those “unintended consequences”!
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They probably haven’t even run a level three diagnostics.
[Star-Trek lingo]
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Why is it you never hear, “Sorry, Captain, diagnostics are down; that section is sealed off” ?
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A push for 5g and Musk’s Starlink service as a cure?
Seems someone set out to roger Rogers as soon as there was an( initially small, but opportunely, and, unnaturally amplified?) outage. Never let a good blackout go to waste. It’s definetely not like these types to discourage monopolies, èh? So what is the gameplan then??
Merde. 
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