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You are correct. I am mistaken. I’m thinking of Millie Weaver.
‘Like’ annoying to the point ‘like’ I’m screaming ‘like’ at my laptop screen ‘like’.
Interesting, or, as Mr. Spock would say, fascinating… When I was very young, I somehow got hold of papers from “high” levels of Scientodianeticology( excuse me if I don’t remember the exact group titling/ names of the upper Orders) , say from levels 33 to 110,and found them relatively informative; CAF( Catherine Austin-Fitts) has said more or less the same thing. However, I did get one of them electrometer readings ostensibly to see if I was Clear, and found the experience repulsive. Much later I visited the local HQ, and was disgusted by it all.
Even later I had a long discussion with this country’s premier Professor of theology, who pointed out gross inconsistencies in Scientology and Hubbbard’s “legacy”, including how he visited Hubbaard’s private library in USA, and had remarked to the guide how all the books were intellectual lightweights, even storing pulp fiction of dubious quality. The very next day said library had been emptied, and the guide would not offer up any plausible explanation.
Hubbyard, probably being naval Intelligence, most likely had access to classified and/or occult information that he could parlér into a semblance of authority. His misuse of this does not detract from the viability of interesting tidbits/secrets that may have fallen from his table.
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I always make sure I don’t tune in when Millie is the guest.
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Oh! ok you answered my question, I didn’t see it till just now. So Bill Ryan was with Project Camelot and is openly a Scientologist - did I get that correct?
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That’s a very interesting tale from your Professor and typical of Scientology - totally clueless uneducated mind slaves proudly displaying a bunch of junk books with no idea about anything inside them lol Then a panicked over the top response to clean up the mistake - they probably didn’t just throw out the books, they probably were up all night shredding and burning them as well, and whoever was stocking the place had to do a lot of additional auditing to account for their “crimes”.
Just as an aside, there are many many people who went through the Scientology Sea Org who literally ate only rice and beans for years on end, every day, because with its millions and billions, that’s all the cult would spend to feed its most advanced and important worker class with. Sea Org members got no vacations and worked 6.5 days a week- Sunday afternoon they had a few hours to do laundry and everything else.
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I also had an experience about 40 years ago. I stopped by this place in downtown Denver after reading some paper on the window. I heard about the electro meters was intrigued. So I go back a week later and sit in front of a young man holding something in each hand (I can’t even remember what they looked like.) Lucky for me that night I had a terrible tickle in my throat and kept coughing. Every time he tells me to control it with my mind and I really did try but it didn’t work. I never went back, but after only going that one time they called me many times, they wrote me letters and sent several brochures a week for the next ten years until I moved to another home. I’m glad I didn’t get mixed up with Scientology.
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Oh, that’s too bad.
I don’t necessarily agree with everything you said there but this is unfortunate if people are lying about things.
lol she’s only been on twice I think.
The first time was enough for me…
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Anyway thanks for sharing about your perspective about that, that was sort of a weird forum but had some good talks with folks there few years ago.
I was annoyed with Wolf for interrupting me when he closed my account, but technically I don’t think we have laws against interrupting people in this country.
Don’t know about their forum necessarily being a cult, but they did have kind of an over the top sales pitch about them being the most open minded spiritual group on the whole internet and one of the last stands for free speech in the whole country, that is a bold claim.
Don’t know if anyone here at Giza has a membership there these days what is going on with that site? Seems like a fairly different crowd the Gizars and people at Gigi/Wolf’s site if they have a name for themselves there.
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@Bahri You are right with their grandiose claims of total free speech (not true) and it being a weird forum - I’ll put some details to that weirdness here -
Oh, they are the most open minded spiritual community on the internet, as long as you agree with everything they say, and you don’t raise objections to anything they do. And never, ever cross Wolf.
Strictly speaking, you can’t leave a true cult, so they don’t qualify on that score. But when you have a charismatic leader in an ivory tower that is venerated as perfection, an organization funded by members that have no right to object to policies, and a tough guy money man that operates the community with absolute tyranny (see the Terms of Service before joining) with a history of stifling dissent by expulsion, lying and smearing, you are on your way to something resembling a cult atmosphere.
When I was there the place was lousy with at least a dozen spiritual trolls who seemed to have a mission to undermine Gigi’s message, but they were well tolerated by Wolf because they were paying customers - literally half the active community was behind a TOR VPN showing their location as “The Netherlands”. These were the weird, the freaky and the troll type personalities. The rest of the community didn’t bother much with VPNs, as it was a very private space. At the start of the Ukraine war some of these really nasty “Netherlands” trolls berated community members on an ongoing basis for even suggesting there might be a history involved behind the Russian military operation, or that there was a Nazi contingent in Ukraine. They denounced Putin as the worst, most despotic tyrant in history who needed to be erased from the planet, and if you dared to venture a polite counter argument you were loudly “shouted down” and villified by tag teams of trollish “members” (this happened to other members, as I stayed out of that one.)
Everyone walked around on eggshells in that “so highly spiritualized” forum, and more often than not, the conversation was about such weighty topics as buying yoga pants and how to handle having sexual thoughts while Gigi was lecturing. For awhile, in the members Q&A, very gory questions about cannibalism were brought up so many times, and hijacked the discussion so often, week after week, that even Wolf finally had enough and told the troll members to cut it out- but as long as they paid they weren’t kicked no matter how disgusting they made the conversation for the genuine seekers there. These paying trolls used to post devil chicks in tight shirts, horned rams on Christmas Eve, suicidal and fearful atheist despaircore and other satanic memes on the shared bulletin board, which Wolf was also just fine with. I started challenging why a spiritual website composed mostly of women had misogynist and demonic pin up art posted daily and got some of it cleaned up with a lot of effort, but again, is this what you belong to a spiritual community to do? It was like going to a church where satanic taggers were part of the deal, cause they helped pay for things.
For a “high minded” spiritual website, there was just a lot of gnarly, deflating and sinister material floating around constantly - and you had to assume Gigi was either unaware of it or fine with it, because you had no contact with her and she was not involved at all, except for twice monthly live Q&A sessions, conducted through the filter of Wolf’s total moderation of all questions, discussions and communication. Even for the highest paying members, Gigi did not have an email address or private message box that didn’t get intercepted and read by Wolf first.
I did get something out of Gigi’s classes, which you had to pay for on top of the regular site membership fees, and I would even recommend them, although some people complained that they were too sparse for the fees charged. But the baggage you have to wade through with Wolf running “everything Gigi” defeats much of the positive with some very negative BS.
At first when I was kicked suddenly and basically on Wolf’s whim, I was shocked and upset being ripped away during the middle of classes I was taking and from my friends in the group. Several members wrote to me, saying they thought there should have been a warning given to me and some kind of appeal or redemption process. They sent me emails quoting the things Wolf was writing about me to justify his actions, most of which were lies about what had happened. I was genuinely shocked that lies came so easily and quickly to the leader of this spiritual website. After a few days, I was relieved I was out. In true cult fashion many of my former friends “disconnected” with me, believed every lie of the leader without asking me, and those that were in touch with me were too afraid to defend me to the group or face being ostracized themselves, except one person, who left of their own accord soon after. I wrote to Wolf and told him I knew he was lying about me and I knew what the lies were, and to stop it immediately. I was informed that indeed he took down the thread where he had been making up stories about me and what had happened. On that thread I was even deemed “psychotic” by Wolf’s assistant/sock puppet account - this is the really ugly smearing I am talking about. Is this the behavior of a leader of a website that is supposedly developing high compassion and wisdom in others? That allows free speech like nowhere else online? lol
After a few days, I realized I really didn’t want to go back. I did send an apology to Wolf for upsetting him, but now I regret the apology. He treated me shamefully and what I objected to was reasonable - he wanted to create secret unnamed rooms on the website that members who paid for the site would be unaware of and may never be privy to. And I started a discussion thread about it. I never said anything rude or insulting, but just starting a discussion thread was deemed “overthrowing a mod” and for that I was immediately kicked from the greatest free speech community on the entire internet. Now I am glad I raised the objections I did, as secret societies do not belong in a fair and equitable community, to paraphrase JFK.
So Wolf’s secret rooms that members pay for but don’t know about will always be a little tarnished, by one member who dared to start a discussion and unwittingly drove Wolf into a tyrannical frenzy of “free speech” remorse, I guess. Wolf did refund my class payments but he never apologized for his outlandish tantrum, and his lies remain totally unacknowledged.
How many other lies and incidents does he keep hidden from Gigi, while she takes the high road and doesn’t dirty her hands with students, or the money side of things?
Unfortunately, the Gigi Young community is just another guru-centric group with it’s shadow side that takes seekers in, takes their money, and spits them out without a second thought if they are inconvenient. These groups are a dime a dozen, and a cliche when you get down to it. I still think Gigi puts out very good Steiner based spiritual scholarship, and she gives that for free to the public, which is very commendable, though of course it is also a lure for the website. But if I could be so bold as to offer her some counseling, she has some some major spiritual housecleaning to do, and a really deep dark shadow/partner element that she probably needs to delve into and face - sooner rather than later.
To answer above question - internally they call themselves “G-Force” and “G Family”.
Yikes, that sounds really bad.
$10 a month isn’t too much of a paywall, but even a little paywall can make a big difference in a place, if people are being seen as customers rather than members or guests.
I paid for a one year membership before really investing in looking at their forum at all just joined some of the Q&A calls was helpful having some of my questions answered. Those were a lot different how they use a lottery system to chose questions randomly, instead of all questions being answered in order.
After my year membership expired I was planning to take a break from there but paid for a one more month membership after a few weeks, but then got a refund for that so that was generous and a contradiction to their terms of service saying they don’t offer refunds (except as a courtesy if they feel like doing that, apparently).
This seems like a significant challenge to run a forum with a lot of unusual characters, just because people are being tolerated doesn’t mean the leadership agrees with their views.
I agree with everything you say. I added the whole story of what happened to me pretty much, although there are still dome details of how things worked that are interesting but I didn’t include now.
This gave me an opportunity to get this episode off my chest, so I appreciate you looking and giving me this airing, which I never really got. : ) thanks.
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Oh, good!