CAN YOU SAY "RETROCAUSATION"?

Originally published at: CAN YOU SAY "RETROCAUSATION"?

As I stated on Monday, this is one of those weeks where all the important stuff is falling off the radar as everyone is focused on the Israeli-Iranian strikes and counter-strikes, and this story is one of them, and it may contain some implications that run into the “whopper doozie” category, but that will have…

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There are several points to address here. This is exactly why vector calculus and its extensions cannot effectively describe physics that’s centered on mediums, nor can tensor systems based on vectors. Traditional attempts to combine holistic and reductionist perspectives often bring Newtonian or Minkowskian topologies—like Euclidean 3-space plus 1-dimensional time, or 4-dimensional spacetime—into biology through phase-space embeddings. But these methods treat manifolds as just mapping surfaces, overlooking the physical reality of energy quanta and confusing time with a spatial dimension.

All of these approaches rely on simply adding together dimensions (for example, S = x³, T = t¹, A = S×T, or a flattened S = x⁴). This additive structure can’t capture the generative, multiplicative nature of energy continua—the “medium” itself. Flat, additive models can’t represent distinct energy manifolds, account for energy conservation across both space and time, or support any theories involving negative time or “negentropy”, the latter being a New Age idea with no scientific basis.

Instead of seeing energy as a function of already-existing space and time, it’s more accurate to see Space (S) and Simultaneity (Γ) as properties that arise from energy itself. Here, l³ represents a volume element, while t² encodes the synchronicity of two independent time dimensions (such as resonance or repetition rate). The t⁻² term introduces a logical structure for phase-time reversals, treating time as an independent manifold, an idea necessary for concepts like time travel or Kozyrev-style models of Time.

In classical thermodynamics, irreversibility was tied to increasing entropy. But Aspden’s reading of Henri Bergson places irreversibility in the very structure of Time, a one-way phase-lock in the universal aether that applies to all processes, whether reversible or not. So, Time itself is irreversible, but the many phase-locked sub-continua of phase-space and phase-time aren’t, opening up more straightforward ways to think about teleportation and manipulating time.

The “arrow of time” we talk about in probability is just a convention. Real Time has no beginning or end; energy is eternal, so entropy doesn’t determine the direction of time. Our lived, intuitive sense of simultaneity comes from all material flows being locked to this universal phase-flow of massless energy. Einstein’s relativity confused local clock matches for simultaneity, but true simultaneity needs an invariant, third dimension of Time and time, similar to the Orthodox distinction between Essence and energy, or Light and light, or Space and space. This is the real approach.

As if it wasn’t apparent enough already, I despise 20th century quantum mechanics and I will make war on it unto death.

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Wowza…I can tell my normal Ginko tablet is not going to be enough for this thread. :slight_smile: Maybe I’ll osmotically absorb just a little of this.

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@abellache and I went into this in detail about a year ago in another thread, so feel free to check that out for the full breakdown. We started by laying out the standard definitions and covering the basics. I’ll explain the dimensionality problem in vector calculus step by step. I also shared some thoughts on Relativity—specifically Levi-Civita—in a vidchat, which you can find in the comments section around when Demon in Ekur was released. I’m on the same page as Farrell and others about Time being an independent force with its own bidirectional flow. That said, I really think this crap around quantum mechanics needs to be cleared up, it’s a nonsese catch-all for everything exotic and it DOESN’T WORK.

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Way over my head… yet vaguely familiar.

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Here is the big takeaway: attempts to describe bidirectional time functions by treating time as a spatial dimension is a loser, and frankly, a deliberately injected public consumption loser. This approach leads to endless paradoxes and theoretical complications, such as the concept of an infinite multiverse, without offering real explanatory value.

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Very tightly reasoned and in the main very similar to some of my own private speculations. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. They are very provocative and I for one will ponder them quite a bit.

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Here is the old thread: Quantum mechanics and relativity are completely derivable from fractal geometry + the ether

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In a more metaphysical way of thinking, can one attempt to summarise these findings with something like : The future is in the past. If time is ‘an illusion’ , that is to say, if there is no time outside of the egoic body, then there, there is only the eternal Now? The echoes of this ‘outside-the-body-time’ persist throughout the latticework of the molecular framework of ‘physical’ matter, in a kind of trickle down effect as things get denser, and ‘pretend’ to be linear and solid?

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Everything is just “is”, depending on your definition of “is”… I think Bill Clinton came up with that to deny anything happened between his intern and him🤭.

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Reductio ad absurdum = me not a fan :frowning:

Here is how I would view your comment in light of what is written above: Space (S) and Simultaneity (Γ) emerge from energy continua, not vice versa. Your comment places time as, phenomenologically speaking, subjective (illusory), non-quantitative, and introspective constructs of mind. Very common in eastern pantheistic or panpsychist systems, I’m guilty of flirting with these myself, in particular the IndoAryan variants in Zoroastrianism. Where I delineate is Energy and its subsequent sub-continua as discreet and ‘real’ with Energy (His energies and actions) as the only eternal feature, grounded in a transcendent God. Time and Space emerge from Energy in superposition, as opposed to being vessels for some finite energy which is generally associated with heat and light (whatever that is). Your metaphysical statement offers a poetic lens on human experience of time, useful for philosophical reflection but too vague for predictive or engineering purposes. The ontological grounding suggested in your comment (very Julius Evola, btw, who was critical form my development) projects mind/body upon matter. I’m in agreement that Mind is the logical precedent to matter, but you’re left with the question: from where does the Mind originate? I’m simply passed the philosophical philandering and require a meat and potatoes framework that provides a rigorous, energy-based scaffolding that can, in principle, accommodate phenomena like negative time, phase-time reversals, and genuine simultaneity while accommodating Eastern Orthodox Christianity and it’s CRITICAL distinction between Essences and actions.

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That’s a very cogent answer I really appreciate you taking the time to write it out. It is fascinating that you picked up on Evola as although I have not read him, he is often recommended to me ( I am a dirty occultist).
That said, I think we are in agreement in our beliefs, (that’s what they are right, at least suppositions) when you say that time is a SIDE EFFECT.
It is subjective in this case because it is an OFFSHOOT of the eternal Energy, which could be called Dao, God, The Universe. right?

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… and let us not forget the undermentioned (and not rare by the way happens in bodies all the time), neurologically very interesting phenomenon of backpropagation.

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I will never forget that when you mentioned that during the Gizar get together, and I STILL am thinking about that one…

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… if one gets into the literature I think will be found at least a connection / suggestion or two into an aspect or two as to how time might “work”. There is a book or two buried in that literature. Just sayin’ :slight_smile:

To add to my above reply. To answer your question, since Mind is previous and outside of Matter, and God/Energy exists along with Mind, outside of Time, Mind originates from God.
Sparks of God that create separate identities to ‘play’ , called Souls or Higher Selves.
Each Higher Self/Soul then creates it’s own separate identities called ‘egos’ or ‘personalities’ which most likely exist ‘simultaneously’ .

Violating ‘c’ no less.

All Gnostic traditions, East and West alike, ultimately trace back to a single wellspring. My own intellectual formation drew on Evola, René Guenon, Nietzsche and even the surviving fragments of Heraclitus, ironically composed under Persian patronage and, in many respects, echoing Zoroastrian doctrine. Likewise, the Indo-Aryan systems that dispersed globally after the cataclysmic flood and the Proto-Indo-Aryan migrations across the Eurasian Steppe share an identical philosophical foundation: whether in the hymns of the Vedas or the patterns of the I Ching, they almost certainly spring from that same primordial source.

When we speak of “Time,” as such, I mean it as a subject greater than the duration measured on clocks, a universal phase locked flow. But within each sub-continuum, or phase-space, that composes the cosmos, time is no mere abstraction. It functions as a measurable force intrinsic to the generation and transformation of every phenomenon with which we can physically interact.

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From the “Physics of Miracles” Tapping into the Field of Consciousness.

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