World wars financiers and "their" goals

Yes, we need to use the power God gave us through Jesus’ sacrifice and in his holy name to pray them out of existence.

Am always intrigued by those God chooses for his purposes (i.e.: Russia).

We can say nothing is circumstantial on this world!, sometimes it takes time to be understood Our Almighty Lord Providence even when we as with Free Will Gift know to astray from Salvation what has own causality by itself that dont means that once some empire stand victorious that that is final event, simply on World where viruses enters in every system its really not possible to be reached heaven’on’earth!, simply the purpose of this World is for our Salvation and when the same is getting obsolete actually by the measure of graceless trends we are provoking on ourselves misery as individually so as collectively!, yep we should always remember Niniveans that we will be again and again reminded on Repentance and if we refuse to grasp that indeed we provoked by ourselves on ourselves wrong causality, as I can see one such moment is abortionism but also the famine that is looming in Africa and currently in Yemen [1][1][1] are we aware that this is issue cant tell but it should be reminder how empty shells of compassion we’ve became!

Metaphysics is such thing that simply we cant grasp even physics in fullness what about the reasons why this or that is allowed coz our Salvation, practically if there no temptations who will wake up and focus on Salvation!?, the problem is think coz the vast free will of ours, but somehow strangely ww1 and ww2 was provoked coz the teuton utopian strive as rosicrucian elitist neopagan vibe that provoked misery upon all coz its wrong stamina [2][2][2] so we can expect again teutons to provoke the bloodbath and indeed arent now nazi’ukro’bots the lever for such inertia!? altho per’se we can say everything is stirred somewhere underneath city’of’london and forwarded by some paperclip recidive further down “their” hierarchy [2][2][2] and surely again “they” dont care what will be the toll of “their” exceptionally wrong utopian esotery!, still how we are silent and in unbelief just like the very beginning of ww2 it looks like the majority of the world population is like on some soccer world cup on tv!

Hm, nor we are seeing prompt academic debates nor peace forums if not eforums hm as if the academia is scarred not to end up jobless if dont follow the mainstream media narrative and its satisfied if not soc.nets share some post of personal opposition!?, tho it would interesting if DonaldT now if its true that is pushed out of favor by fox’ers maybe affraid that have german roots [3] simply so would regain trust by the voters exactly to open up gop by eTOS vibe and if not else to stir eforum for the republican congressman teams to debate their differences in contrastto his stances, practically he will not need any tv marketing but the audience will shift from chasing narrators tv hype to live feed 24/7 spectacle among the implementers of policies inside gop on at least general online public party eforum ~ ideally also in every state mirror to it so the local issues would be also tackled in depth, and simply like that will not chase votes by appeal but by pragmatic appearance on eforums where even his teams can help him, in essence like that will reemerge as nominee altho in same time it can leave with easy his seat to any other that will prove worthy as MAGA successor Simply with eTOS he will bring last chance for Direct Participatory Democracy to start seeing the day in usA otherwise it will be as it will be!, LORD HAVE MERCY ON ALL MANKIND …

I saw some new theory shared yesterday on GDS about khazars i.e. how “they” are the prime motor behind all n’w’o strive [1][1] long story short the points is how babylonian jewish banking clans survived till these days by infiltration among khazarians i.e. supposedly coz the crusades had have hidden “their” existence [2][2][2] but on what as counterargument I’ll say 1. why at all to hide own might if its so special?, 2. the mission of Saint Cyril and Methodius among khazars was real why would khazars fake it!?, 3. how can “they” as khazars infiltrate till such extent so as court jews would hijack all royal european houses!?, its more logical that “they” merged with the european royals and became “their” serfs!, yet could the serf become master, hm doable but above whole european realm, cmon!, altho as zionist wing became good cloaking marker for teutons, altho we cant say for granted which faction how who has in hand why, simply “they” all go onboard the “same” enlightenment apotheosis vibe and practically zionism is just another secular nationalistic flash among all the rest, while eventual neopagan esoteric flow comes from “their” messianism as chabadism from around the black sea hasidism, does all jews or all zionists are chabadeans hm such generalisation would be on level eg. that all germans are nazis!, yes by stif agitprop manipulation it can be fooled many to follow even march with ubermenschen exceptionalism through ww2 tho that dont means per’se germans are genocidal, hm as if were framed to work out coz utopianism!?

So I’ll conclude indeed “they” as khazarians were present, but to me more logical looks the teuton’julian’theory as prime above all european power elite [3][3] lets say infected teutons at least if not all western europeans with “their” magical mix of tengri&mazdaistic summoning thus somewhere made friend somewhere enemies!, and probably some will say: then how so ea-determinists-esotery is per’se neokabbalism, hm to what I’ll respond thats not quite completely truth!, coz if we make closer examination of the alchemic medieval hype or rosicrucian hermeticism or freemasonic esotery defacto its word for ancient pagan syncretism where we can find various mixing of aegen esotery in the end even hinduism to which is glued also kabbalism!, thus we can say yes now there are two utopian branches till neopagan n’w’o as freemasonry and zionism (as some asclepios rode snakes till apotheosis) ~ on what surely some will say but if in freemasonry main accent fells on the solomon temple architects plus also exist stars sigils (pentagram in freemasonry and hexagram in zionism) or as we know as Christians that “their” false prophet will emerge as leader or crowned in Jerusalem, then its logical that the 1st footnote theory about “babylonian Radhanites” holds some truth!? Hm, on what I’ll say if so eventually from aspect of common demonic energy eg. if we project that coz the pharisees crucified Our Savior Christ “they” became chosen clans for anathemago to tempt the nations of the world – after the fall of Byzant (what as Empire would be the 1000 year rule of Christ with His followers in this World [4] if we know indeed that byzant lasted 1k years [4][4]) – yet again to me looks like push-pull among “themselves” as neopagans who will took the lead till apotheosis coz freemasons awaits “their” eschaton for usA as revival of pax’romana [5][5] through pax’americana and right after pax’universalis n’w’o, while zionists in all this have secondary role and hope from side to reemerge as backup if cant have the prime role towards neopagan n’w’o!, on what we can say the ukrainian quarrel is lit exactly like that [6][6][6] eg. JoeB was framed as biolab investor in Ukraine to react on hot ww3 coz DonaldT wasnt maybe ready to follow [7][7][7] and practically as in case with JFK all are peddled to follow or be removed [8] so could it be that “they” as bancorp cartel are the prime motor for wars [9][9][9][9] hm practically usury is evil that as mammonism is securing the rest of vices, its kind of glue between hedonism and egoism if and when becomes idol, making from the usurer an “usurer” [9][9][9] (in the last footnote as terms: war and/or usury are mentioned 1k time each in an compilation of net conspy info altho not sure how relevant havent checked patiently) Still even “they” fueled someone “that someone” needs to push’the’button for greater’evil as plutocrat or shadow’stooge, and not rarely is!, But even if “they” as bank’corp’cabal are the prime motor for euroatlantic determinism stil JPM as largest derivative pillar indirectly is in hands of southeuropean nobility hands, thus khazarian banksters and “their” teuton lords are not the wealthiest euroatlantic faction nor can corrupt or blackmail all for per’se massonic ordo’ab’chao [10][10] altho its also fact that rotshields overtook vatican by loans [11] yet think jesuits and their jpm wealth didnt fell in that swap!, thus we can assume jpm could trigger instantly global economic crash if is not onboard for hot ww3, tho somehow vatican embraced great’reset as normal agenda ahead [12][12] thus its question whether we are not already witnessing full preparations for nuclear ww3!?, LORD FORBID …

Again and again I’ll need to remind You all I am nor expert nor insightful even in this topic, simply from the available info trying to reconstruct “their” power mosaic, practically without the teuton’julian’theory which I am using it as pivot so would grasp whats happening I’ll get lost in the myriad of info and theories but also spins!, thus I’ll need to point it would clever people to start debate instead leave such fractal assumptions to hang i.e. either the same can be supported and to it given credence or it need to be refuted and debunked so would not look like anyhow extra genuine!, hm probably need to underline this disclaimer as signature coz somehow sense people are seeing me as authority altho I am clearly in almost every thread claiming I am halfliterate and exactly coz that I cant afford myself to make blog or vlog but posting on waffle e’forums (not even expert ngo one which tho as eTOS vibe dont exist) simply I am leaving room to be immediately or later refuted anyhow except by agitprop mode ~ on contrary like that my reasoning gets even more affirmation!, simply it needs to be refuted by arguments and not spins!, eh if only we would had have academic intellectual 24/7 eforum debate among insightful historians and experts even on mainstream theories what about on alternative one surely we would had have detected at least the majority of probabilities, but “someone” obviously dont like such momentum, how else to be explained that the academia dont have even one popular eforum with active compact neatly categorized debate and if not on local then on regional level!?, I mean cmon in what century we live!?, or just like that the topix momentum and eforum hype of '90s just evaporated, hm, no it was constantly suppressed and skewed so all would be pushed on soc.nets peddling where whatever info or whatever will is instantly evaporating!, while in scarcity of e’forum debate threads like these where is concentrated some info are becoming kind of final Truth altho it shouldnt be by default that case, hm again that is coz You are all employing Your will on wrong voyaeristic places in wrong manner, thus sadly but indeed even halfliterate like me looks far effective when exploring some topic than all of You together on soc.nets!, So Stop behaving like dumb&dumber!, and at least as expert debate start crossing on thematic eforums!!!

disclaimer x2: Must point when I’ll share some link per’se I am not going along with everything in it eg. in the next 1st footnote just want to point to akkadians as chaldeans yet go for every link give explanation, thus use Your logic what goes from where along the mine text as offered understanding!, anyway …

Hm, I am also not rarely throwing assumption yet far from shallow one eg. like the next one where on first site it could sound interesting the term “radhanites” from aspect of “long’present’energy” that is again and again resurfacing after the Great Deluge when Mankind was punished coz eg. through akkadians [1][1] has reached open cohabitation with demons-anathema-to-them (some say even from small legs children were potent magoi i.e. possessed from birth, thus came to what came as wide graceless state that provoked Our Lord Wrath upon this World) to be more precise altho the next analogy is far from logical still sounds like mirrored etymology!? i.e. if there is no exact evidence from where comes the term radhanites, then we can also speculate that “those” khazarian elites sounds like if among other mixed also hindu esotery [2][2][2] hm why not if indeed were the main sharware gang on the Silk Road, and knowing how eventually mixed tengrism mazdaism and judaism then why not to assume that on some level bumped to hinduism too while in Afghanistan!?, could such logic point how teutons were summoned esoterically to hinduism while chasing to expand “their” alchemic rosicrucianism, hm I really dont know, actually its really mystery to me whether earlier or just later in 19th century entered hinduism in the european neopagan cauldron!?, probably on some level was present in kabbalism too but just far later was found on what rests some doctrine or from where exactly draws root!

This is indeed unknown topic for me i.e. I am not so insightful to make parallels how what where was boiling and reaching glue, simply its not some medieval age mosaicking thus easy dotting, but utmost hard to be deciphered ancient flow that once someone became tempted to dive in will get lost from few aspects 1. how the ancient people were using and sharing knowledge i.e. what kind of mindset (where) some culture had have!, 2. many of “those” pagan civilization had have astral communication i.e. were “friends” with demons-anathema-to-them thus the knowledge could had have traveled around the world even without the need to be carried on foot!, 3. making assumptions nowadays from the scarcity of original sources on top mids the abundance of forgery of texts or translations and/or deciphering its really troublesome thing!, 4. why at all trying to connect antiquity and modern times when per’se its not the might of the flesh but tradition from a Spirit thus now can be one state with wrong vibe tomorrow other hm isnt the swap with earlier ussR with not ussA obvious!?, 5. finally even if it is made some ancient reasoning but by not clear evidence think its not useful the same to be examined like this superficially shallow, yet I’ve took the opportunity so would point that my logic per’se is not such, stil again think even as unburdened from such shallow assumptions again I am aware that its far from perfect ~ Simply coz I am not devoted researcher on these topics nor have some special will for debunking euroatlantic determinists and “their” agendas, I’ve just got somehow challenged by “them” through “their” local stooges thus as never before put some focus to see with whom have work!, and indeed looks like elites yeah to which insecticism is some special hype [3][3][3] wonder from and coz astral tilting or coz some other reason reached such momentum!?

  • I really dont get why “they” need escalation till hot ww3,

  • why “they” want so bad this world to be thrown in complete havoc,

  • why is so important that momentum now!?, or ever!?,

I’ll understand if “they” were threatened so needed to respond, I’ll understand “they” have unimaginable risks that noone cant overcome, and even I’ll understand that if from the other side was not left room for negotiation thus there was nothing from “their” side but to engage in hot ww3!, yet on contrary none of the mentioned excuses dont holds any truth in them!, nor will, simply:

  • East didnt made any exceptional move, on contrary was asking constantly for multipolar world!.

  • Russia even gave hand as option like joint nato [1][1][1] so would be surpassed the differences geopolitically regarding “their” anaconda doctrine [1][1] still despite “their” enlargement even that was refused!

  • China even proposed joint new world currency as stabilizing mechanism [2][2] coz the shear risks to which is exposed the dollar!, yet that was also rejected!

So, whats left as argument for the current obvious escalation from “their” side as euroatlantic determinists than some esoterical lust of “theirs” coz and towards utopain n’w’o, to it it could be added the long planning of “their” agenda21 now a’30 or a’40 if “their” position loosens, hek werent already in motion some failed n’w’o attempts in the past century like ww1 and ww2 till “their” utopia!?, how we would exclude this kind of variable that despite all the reached hands for joint deal of world order by the eastern empires still “they” as euroatlantic determinists exceptionally refused that!, why?, if there was not some greater behind the scenes agenda!?, yes we can act stoopid that economy is at stake, and even in ww2 guess the same reason was peddled as prime, but defacto ea-determinists lust for utopia, altho as factions in same time have own eschatological differences and trying to resolve them in favor of “their” own utopia maybe, how else to be explained what zionists are doing!?, hm maybe just trying to clean nuclear risks with nuclear force and why coz few million asraelis who world to end up in dump, Please it could be resolved the palestinian issue however “they” like and still nuclear war to be avoided!, but if “their” chabad bandwagon didnt bothered to share the ukrainian quarrel even leading it with own bot that will conduct the ukra’nazi’band (yeah freemasons and zionists in hug) then when dont bother if risks hot ww3 with Russia why would if the same is done through Iran, or maybe in question is overstreching Russia on few fronts so would be difficult to manage the operations!?, yet “they” still dont have all the ea-chekpoints in hand especially not Turkey thus needed to wait even risked to lose the kurdish chekpoint in Syria how time was passing, I really dont get how this differently to be explained [3][3][3] yep normally You will get particular psyop counterargument but why we havent seen wide 24/7 debate!?

Wow! I thought I was the only one who could type here, but I am all for open discourse and critical thinking.

When I posted the link to the video on the Babylonian cartel, in truth, I had not watched it all the way through yet, only the beginning. I liked the blogger’s work earlier in researching certain aspects of historic accounts but am not totally behind what they say.
I thought that it would fit in with JPF’s trilogy on the “Banksters of Babylon,” but they seem to invite controversy. I am still learning much about it and if your head feels like it is “spinning,” perhaps that is part of the intention, where research leads into one rabbit hole after another, many dug by the “conspiracy” to lead one away from the truth or towards it in a very manipulative way. Their seems to be some modus operandi that each generation uses so that there is “nothing new under the sun” and the power of the “invisible hand” is passed on within family dynasties or cults hiding behind the cloak of religion. I read that top Templars walked hand in hand with their counterparts in Muslim leaders and those of the “Assassins” when they finally reached the so called Soloman’s temple. In ages past, the ruling class, such as in Egypt, were of a different stock than those that made up their kingdom many times. We find intermarriages that would ally Babylon and Egypt or Macedonia. The priest was often more powerful than the court and would not only provide the education for the king to be, but would also coin the money! Often the only written history left in a civilization after it was conquered would be in the monasteries that were spared plunder or that hid their scrolls, tablets, etc. It is my understanding that there is and was a spoken tradition of teaching that would not write the lessons down, like Socrates and others adhered to, and who would pilgrimage to Egypt, Babylon, Persia, etc. These religious sects were seemingly allies who had the same secret doctrine at the highest level that was handed down from truly ancient times. Today we see this esoteric vestige interlocked with the most powerful hidden societies and the age old quest for world domination, conquest, and as in days past, slavery.

Books I am reading now that may interest you include “Architects of Deception” by Juri Lina, and the “Ordo Ab Chao” series of revamped and updated work by David Livingstone, author of “The Dying God.”

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  • All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.

  • Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.

*Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak — Sun Tzu

What im basicly trying to get to is that in history the rulers have always been hiding behind proxys and outsource the crimes they do.
I beleive the empires we have been taught about have mostly been bagmen for whoever had knowledge or some leverage to pull strings.

The notion that the real rulers needs to boost their ego by showing their might doesnt make any sense imo.
Most likely its their puppets that are put into those positions to take the attention away from the people who gave them that aura of power.

Then sometimes the Kings, presidents or fuhrers go off script and needs to be replaced with a new boogeyman.

When looking for the real source of power then find out who controls the flow of natural resources/trade routes, human capital and has the most advanced technology.

If someone has the ability to build/sell good enough weapons then he can decide who will rule in the eyes of the masses.

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@Dooderonomy We are going extra offtopic with this ultraancient digressing in this thread, essentially any historical overview can be useful if it give explanation for someones particular geopolitical will, in my opinion enlightenment era is enough good pivot and the same powers are still in play, thus from mine understanding as I can see its kind of such from romantism derived eschatological utopian drive as of freemasons so as zionists!, normally there are various variables to all that from economy through power shift in case some card of “theirs” is not plaid eg. how “they” would excuse “themselves” and “their” exceptionalism if “their” long pushed anaconda doctrine is falling apart!?, so as we see from pride pushing till extremes the current geopolitical boiling!, altho as I can see constantly are trying to motivate one another as main factions for hot ww3 from one or another side, but I am now learning is that JoeB raised the bar and gave zionists blank card for middle eastern fuse through “unified command plan” by bidens executive signature [1][1] and knowing that Iran and Russia have strategic partnership on top Iran accessing BRICS can someone tell me what this means!?, its not at al strange then how so such monstrums are now ready even on catastrophe as such in the Hatay region so would condition Turkey back in row as checkpoint [2] altho its really difficult to be proven this i.e. exactly who done that, yet its fact that all the motives plus all the timing is pointing to “them” now when are escalating toward hot ww3 i.e. how all “their” rhetoric is secured for noreturn!, that just shows that now we dont have other means to pushback but through Prayers to decimate “their” demons-anathema-to-them!, but are we doing that!?, as I can see not enough People are responding to this call as if there were no risks ahead, as if its not already fulfilled the time for Prayers till extra Mercy by Our Almighty Lord Jesus Christ and reverting of certain path to fallout, what need to happen so People would wake up!?, how to be explained all hypocrisy for the past Minsk negotiation now revealed as bogus, or how we should grasp the constant exaltation of the ukrainian quarrel by fueling more and more hate mercenaries and weapons!?, thus only valid logical explanation would be from fear that “their” might could faint away “they” are playing “their” ordo’ab’chao cart as last chance till utopia in which “they” will be victorious (“they” dream), and what to say but Too much times “they” proved that dont care how much people will suffer even when partial part of “their” anaconda doctrine was in question eg. half to one million collateral in Iraq [3][3][3] what about to expect that in “their” ordo’ab’chao phase “they” would care if all are thrown in oblivion, JFK should be reminder but JoeB is far from balancer but old rusty hawk obviously that altho wasnt capable for hot ww3 as we can see (from the 2nd footnote claim) left that decision on asraelis now!, Thus We Need To Focus And Do Everything In Our Power To Stop “them” and “their” exceptionalism as by Prayers so as by wide eTOS debate among experts!, can be this reverted!?, possibly if Iran is secured by russian back and it is, yet someone still behave like thats not problem!, probably when already poisoned many with the faulty&deadly m’rna jabs now dont care, as if someone intentionally slipped such motivation hype like now or never will be resolved the iranian might!?, are we all fools or exceptional unipolar globalists of euroatlantic determinists are drowning again whole world in world war, Hope I Am Wrong!

The question now is who would debate calming down of all tensions while still the exceptional JoeB is p’chairing!?, why europeans are silent?, who will say NO among the american and european plutocrats to that “unified command plan” i.e. now asraelis dont need natos article4 nor article5 so would drag all in havoc but solely invasion and all must follow once usA will!?, how this to be reverted before false flag escalation is stopped, hek it could be direct provocation!, yeah who paid for this!?

I really cant understand why there are no realists among the academia that will raise their voice with exception of few [4][4] what tho dont need to be done in accusing mode eg. [5] what altho coz the sake of The Truth it should be stated yet that will not chill out the war heads actually even more push “them” on edge, but we all need to do as much as possible so would be calmed all fears and exceptionalism so would not end up in hot ww3, but how if there is no will for debate nor any calming signal but just further compacting of the raws even by monstrous means so west would be forwarded on path of noreturn!?, are “they” so powerful to do that, will people support “their” skims&spins and keep quiet till noreturn!?, who is to blame but ourselves how peace needs to be pushed by street marching altho even that now its question whether will bring any change coz without wide debate that will reach level of referendums by which will be suspended the right of plutocrats for entering ww3 swiftly how street marching alone will stop “those” madman!?

As a matter of intellectual honesty, since the legend of christ was created exactly in the middle of the engineered fall of rome, how do you know that it isn´t an integral part of the long conspiracy dating for thousands of years to enslave humanity?

The vatican, wich is integral part of the conspiracy, uses this legend to have power over peoples minds. Every single power broker in europe, since it was fabricated used it, what are the logical steps that you made that make you believe that it isn´t part of the program, like the neopagan esoteric flow that you talk about?

They where both fabricated by the same group of criminals, what is the rigorouos logical analysis that makes you come to the conclusion that one is different from the other?

This is precisely the nature of the game, those who really rules have no need to show themselves.

Everyone who you can see and talk about have no real power besides the power to be seen.

Juri Lina is one the very best in my opinion, all his material is 100% intellectual honesty in it´s best shape.

I am basing my belief in the Christian Eschaton on Experienced Faith!, now on other hand I am exposing “them” coz and You will know “them” and “their” neopagan band that is evil by the way are executing “their” esotery politics economics simply all done by trickery lies spins, almost as if cant keep any promise as if are forced to make error!, now saying that coz some infiltration in vatican since middle age when the surviving roman clans conspired to restore pax’romana that all Christianity was infiltrated and kind of conspiracy thats just claim based on empty assumptions, I am saying empty coz it dont anyhow observe the Theological even less Eschatological side of Orthodox Christianity but just suppose by reductionist terms what-if thesis, to which I can firmly say be aware start learning seeking and chasing Salvation coz its matter for earning through this life chance for Eternal Bliss or misfortune for eternal punishment!, tho I dont have Blessing nor extra knowledge to teach even less preach, my advise tho it would be get Inchurched coz just by active prayerful life You can sense know and eventually see what I am talking about i.e. that Jesus Christ is Our Almighty Lord through Whom comes all Grace thus Life and all Salvation in this World!, yet if You cant reach Metanoia by praxis dont waste time and focus on Theology and for that I can suggest one neat example like Jay Dyer [1][1][1] that can come handy as modern Orthodox Christian Apologist that for the modern simplistic mind can offer crash curse altho its better all that knowledge to be absorbed with Blessing simply coz its not hard food for milky teeth!, I mean nor that You cant grasp something the problem is how the skeptic mind to reach clarity what cant be reached anyhow else but by Faith, and how to reach Faith if dont get Inchurched and start knocking on the door so would reach understanding!?, my advise Dont Waste Time coz we are living in exactly the very last times when its said it will be difficult to reach Metanoia even for those who are from womb dedicated to serve Our Almighty Lord altho we can argue are we not yet in the very end times (to whom what means what) but even these last times are more than difficult as Mankind to Focus on Compromise Forgiveness and Empathy coz without such virtues how we can reach Metanoia and understand that we are all guests on this World even less that as such we need an pass of worthiness for Eternity i.e. to become compatible with the Higher Realms of Existence, what actually gives answer to Your doubt whether everything as religion is just rich man game, simply once You’ll start to understand that the spiritual World is basis for this One just then will understand that religion is collective strive to Transcendence what altho earlier was chased and searched in various ways not all are From and In The Truth For Us And Our Almighty Lord i.e. that it was given to us as Mankind second chance so we would restore our previous state and gain even Greater … hm, think from my side this digression in this topic is more than enough while for all the rest consult Theologians Priests or Apologists coz I am not One and can easily throw You in prelest just alone by using mine naive interpretations of Theology and why solely coz firmly stand in the Orthodox Christian Faith what per’se is due to my practical and not theoretical experience!, btw, dont forget why I am exposing “those” neopagan elites ~ per’se coz for “them” honesty is not virtue, also compassion is for “them” weakness, and above all sacrifice of blood probably still ongoing practice not sure just for which faction particularly if so, but if some of “them” dont hide “their” luciferian stamina whats the odds from the evil worshipers to be expected any good, simply we can just restrain or decimate “their” demons-anathema-to-them by invoking extra Grace upon this World, are we aware about this hm cant say!, will we wake up from “their” wrong secularism also cant tell, its our Free Will to be peddled even in extra literate times like these by band of neopagan humanists that we need to follow “their” utopian ideology, and solely coz still the same is poured and fastened by propaganda means on top by wide censorship of any profound debate, ideally on eforums among authorities and academicians!, hm, Go Now People To Join And Give Academic Resistance to “their” n’w’o and transhumanism without doubt now as neopagan utopian ideals of “theirs”!

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There is no empty assumptions in saying that everything is fabricated because every surving document about christianity says that each individual sect and christian father had its individual interpration of what christ was and did.

A mere 100 years after his suposed death there where people already debating if he ever trully existed. All the gnostics sects said that he was a mere symbol for spiritual realities, and taking him as someone who had incarnated was madness.

Every single sect that talked about christ fabricated their own vision of him, who he was, and what he did. Not a single one used any kind of objective truth to determine that, except their own personal truths.

And by this standard, your christianity is as true as their neo pagan psychological warfare.

But anyway, i was really interested i knowing if you had robust logic, analytical skill and critical thinking aplyed to your own reasoning, so that i could have a measure of the intellectual honesty contained in it.

This is extra offtopic empty assumption, take my word, and Please do Check JayD videos on gnosticism, or ask him whats bothering You, as I’ve said You believe what You’ve read, while I what I’ve seen!, yet it took time to reach such moment and I really had have luck [1] so Dont Waste Time take my word for granted focus on Salvation …


It´s the nature of the fool to believe in what he sees. Is the nature of the Wise one to question what he sees.

I don´t believe neither in what i read, and neither in what i see.

… dont act blind, Truth cant be reached anyhow else but asks for driving our Free Will towards it, sometimes we are motivated on that by our misfortune sometimes by luck actually always coz that is the solely purposes of our in this Life altho we not rarely coz humanistically or atheistically poluted our hearths simply refuse to wake up … Take my word I’ve question seen and question seen many times many doubts. and I’ll firmly say Focus on Salvation through Christ!, simply try go see how You will be derailed constantly so would not reach Clarity even less Joy, altho it dont takes too much so would reach Graceful state … from Orthodox Christian side I’ll say its given to us by the measure of Our Faith yet seek and You’ll find!, ask and it will be given to You!, but when asking with polluted hearth Pure Love comes only through Miracles altho how we are blinding ourselves with all kind of wrong esoterical doubt that as such actually is restrains our Free Will for Life in Feat yep Glory To Our Almighty Lord that even in such blindness still we are Miraculously Cured once we are focused on Salvation …

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If you believe that something is the truth brother, you lose de capacity to question it.
By believing in christ, and the concept of salvation, and free will, you lose de capacity to question the inherent contradictions contained in those ideas, and the contradctions are the proof that they can´t be true, because truth can´t have a single contradiction contained in it, otherwise it would be a lie.

I have no problem with faith at all, if people can be honest and know that faith is not truth, because it´s possible to have faith in a lie, and it will produce miracles in the same way as the faith in true, because its written: “It was your fatith that saved you”.

It´s the believer, the faithful that have the power, not the one who is believed, or the tradition that one follows.

If the concept of christ never was invented, neither of the salvation, and neither the gospels where written, in what terms would you define everything you said and think?

To be able to answer that question is the mark of someone who is dealing with somekind of truth, and not to be able is the mark of someone who is dealing with ephemeral concepts.

I ask this question all the time, about everything i myself believe, this is why i don´t believe neither in what i see, and neither in what i read.

Intellectual honesty makes self critic mandatory.

wow I really find amazing why people are willing to go intentionally offtopic!, tho when already hooked on Your logicism coz its exactly that I’ll respond!, You will find about The Truth once You will start searching it, normally Faith in error is error but saying the Christianity is in error take my word its wrong untruthful error, how I know this hm I’ve shared link I was ex-pagan thus I know what I am talking about!, simply had have once open spiritual eyes thus aware with what kind of evil we have work while in same time when solely by fencing with the Christ Name we are instantly guarded!, dont worry tried by various other means and didnt succeed, and that was my beginners luck to stand up firmly coz before that as kid was Baptized as Orthodox Christian but mids socialism as the titoistic one living mostly like traditional Christian!, yet once I’ve got on my legs and escaped paganism still was on the first stage of full awakening what happened once started to live Consecrated Life in Feat primarily by the Holy Mysteries of Confession and Eucharist … so not that You must follow my advice but again dont force on yourself blindness try for once grasp what is Orthodox Christianity!, still its Your Free Will whether will do or not!, but hm how we can speak about Honey if You havent ever tasted one!?, good analogy in my experience about every spirituality yet take my word I’ve tasted paganism too thus can firmly claim what I claim!, Focus on Salvation coz we are warned that extra temptations are coming in the last times, what to say than it would be Joy if You put effort to Save Your Soul, as JPF says Hope Will See You On The Other Side …

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This is intriguing. In this country, the bureaucrats run the government and always have. People are elected for a time, then someone else comes along. In the meantime, the same people run things. Remember my students being astonished when they learned of this - here we are educated to think elected officials are in charge - naught. Don’t kings know about their world mostly through advisors? Many have come forward telling us of things that were kept from DonaldT. Wasn’t this some of what happened with Tzar Nicholas? Serf’s in the right places can be very powerful.

Your links are very helpful in discerning what is behind it all - pulling the shots as it were. Great connections/dots too.

“Jesus Christ is Our Almighty Lord through Whom comes all Grace thus Life and all Salvation in this World”, this I believe as well. We are in a major spiritual war; our weapon is faith, standing and praying. I have free will; I do not consent.

BTW: I am now admonished for posting 3 times to you on this thread. Someone is always watching, it appears.

Our Almighty Lord Always Watch Over Us thus if we stand in Truth and Righteousness with no judging or hating hearth surely we are provoking all who envy us and want to plot so we would be silenced!, also in this case i.e. in this thread even when trying to grasp an past events altho in context of modern geopolitics, hm, surely we are on “someones” hitlist once we are demystifying the covert mystificators, yep being dissident is Martyrs Feat altho people are thinking on west there is freedom of speech thus can devote themselves without risks, exactly why we need eTOS environment so any eventual risks would be relativized if many are debating enmasse aside that this kind of conspy vibe simply will get far factual analysis by academicians!, I mean how someone can compare at all all mine fractal mosaic linking of available info on net with eg. JPFs indept knowhow coz studied these topics neatly!?

The problem tho is that People are afraid coz generalization, as “those” that are mentioned so as those who work for “them” (in the second case most of the euroatlantic plutocrats), altho I dont attack “them” per’se but “their” wrong utopian ideology!, also I am constantly pointing dont judge eg. what are guilty for jews coz there are some “millennialist” zionists!, or can we say coz freemasonry is the precursor for republicanism that now all nations are luciferian, how all can be same even in one and the same party what if and when is mirrored is at best prejudice on level of blind exceptionalism what surely will lead to misanthropy in the end, thus from Christian perspective such wrong animosity is sin!, simply its wrong to judge even people under “their” rule as utopian’shadow’elites, normally coz many joined “their” euroatlantic imperial globalism solely coz lucrative interests!, thus defacto its not at all wise one to generalize!, but even in case of “those” actually hidden elites whats the point of chasing culprit when we know that what is driving all that euroatlantic determinist hype is evil-spirit-anathema-to-him!, So what we need is Focus on Grace and eTOS so we would stop such shadowy inertia towards deist n’w’o and superhumanity apotheosis!, what will take so we would understand this I am not sure, also cant say whether we have other means so would stop certain path to perdition and peril of half world population in case of fallout!

Can we assume “they” are afraid, think “they” are!, did “they” started panicking, yes “they” are, but wounded and exposed lion is most dangerous beast!, Yet let “them” know True Christians will always be ready on Martyrs Crown Of Glory especially knowing what means to become Martyr [1] and it will be again as in the first centuries when The Church was under persecution!, altho if we see how many are suicidemartyrs’coz’revolt [2][2][3] then how much more we as Christians need to be bold to withstand on the narrow path of Salvation where evil attacks are norm - once we are aware that “they” are after us coz whatever reason!, actually I’ve end up now on eforums exactly coz this kind of molesting by “their” local stooges coz “their” call!, long story short causally it got “them” by “their” tail once “they” wanted to reset me for Christian Life in Feat!, while now I guess “they” are trying to frame me coz got trapped in “their” own trap!, but again I am not claiming some kind of superiority of knowledge regarding “their” esoteria agendas or stamina, tho trying to grasp from the available info on net with whom we have job as shadow’elites!, but if this is bothering “them” I cant even imagine how outraged “they” are when some insider as whistler is exposing “them”!