I found this somewhat intriguing as someone is going to call this “art” while I liken it to three-dimensional geometry. I love the image, but there is the debate between craft and art that comes into play here.
Have at it.
Yep its mainly spirograph in essence, so agree it’s craft. Considering it as art is demeaning and devalues actual art.
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somewhere between art and craft lies a kind of “dimensionality”, a liminality, which somehow transcends both. Think of the singer not the song vs the song vs the singer. Do not get hung up on the technique
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Pollock eat ya heart an out!
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An art instructor in college down graded me because I argued modern art was not art since beauty was not to be found.
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Would that liminality mean both a dimension where art and craft comprise a hybrid entity and also a liminality dimension where they are neither?
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Of course. It seems that the division between art and craft lies in the space in which an interpretation is being made. I am a ceramic artist. I can make a plate that can be used, an article of function, or I can make an object that can perhaps look like a “plate” but can never be used as such because of the design. It seems that what is important here lies in the perception of the viewer and/or user.
If the question is one of technique, there is the possibility that one is getting hung up on the idea of HOW something is done. I am not sure how much that plays into the idea of the art.
I guess I see. art as a kind of two way street — the “umph” the individual puts into the work and the effect one gets out of it.
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That’s a swell way of looking at something someone creates that didn’t exist before and leaves beauty in eyes of the beholder. Fair enough.
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Your mention of it reminded me of this video that popped up on my feed some months ago.
This Toy Carved The Nicest Table I’ve Ever Made.
For me, this is most certainly art and most certainly craft.
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This is where I step in and say that while that table is AWESOME, it is craft. As a landscape architect, much of my work could have been described as craft but there were elements, like my use of perennials to paint the gardens I designed ensuring an intriguing palette from first bloom in spring to the last fruits in the fall. I have been a pen and ink artist since junior high school, dabbled in water color with my grandmother who was an artist, and later taught drawing at the University of Georgia. When I worked in an office out of Westport, CT (I was designing a 60 acre Greenwich estate) and the engineers with whom I coordinated my designs hired me to render all their perspective drawing proposals. I am pretty much pre-CAD and everything is still free-hand, ala the beaux arts method that I learned in France in graduate school. Once the light bulb went off, I realized I could draw anything - and that includes geometric/isometric drawings, like these. I see the technical layout for perspective drawing as craft. What you do with that drawing can, in fact, become art.
One of my closest LA friends from Palm Beach had a MFA in art (painting and pottery) and I helped him with the technical engineering understanding when we studied for our Florida licenses. That was 45 years ago. We have never stopped discussing the difference between art and craft… and I doubt this will change it.
Thanks for the responses. It is exactly what I meant by: “have at it”.
OH, and like Dr. Farrell, I TOTALLY reject half of the modern bull manure as being art. It is is communist fraud like everything else that they do. Once we all realize that we are about frequency, we will see that the classical music and art, and anything derived from it that uses similar frequencies, will forever be viewed as art: visual and auditory.
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Indeed- the artist’s struggle with the postmodern world. As a painter I often think ‘What’s the point?’ But then I look out the window and think ‘Oh well’.
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Keep the faith, keep creating 
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… “Modern Art” is just one of the fronts of Semeiotic Warfare. All that we “see” is a full out assault on Signs. Below is a repost from March of 2025
The Finns have understood the context of “big picture” global goings on longer than most. It seems clear that they consider and interpret events in terms of Semeiotic Warfare.
And it might be helpful if we begin to think in these terms as well.
At the end of this post is a list of developing global situations. Notice the isolated one concerning Finnnish Intelligence.
From a previous post:
Think instead of Semeiotic Warfare (there will be aberrant spellings e,g. Semiotic). If one wants to jump in the deep end look for writings on Semeiotic Warfare. Look at the Finnish Military’s interest in this subject.
… the warfare that is upon us, having been sub-rosa for a while but certainly out in clear view and full force now, is primarily Semeiotic Warfare with Kinetic Warfare being derivative.
It is possible to be Semeiotically “infected”. The Finns (see e.g. Finnish Defense “Left of Bang” > National Defense University Press > News Article View ) have been aware of this fact longer than most.
Below are more developing Tuesday headlines via Newsquawk:
- Russia’s Kremlin says it is “obvious that the US was the main supplier of the war” and if the US stops, it will be the best contribution to the cause of peace. Seems as if European countries will try to compensate Ukraine for the apparent loss of US military aid. Need to see how the situation develops on the ground. Too early to comments on reports of “White house seeks plans for Russian sanctions relief”. To normalise relations, the sanctions need to be lifted.
- Finland’s Intelligence Service says the biggest concern in the Baltic Sea is the Russian shadow fleet. Russian sabotage actions are taking increasingly dangerous forms.
University of Portsmouth – 28 Jan 25
Suspected Baltic Sea cable sabotage by Russia’s ‘shadow fleet’ is ramping up…
- Ukraine’s parliament said the country’s security is ensured by US support and described President Trump’s peacekeeping efforts as ‘decisive’ in ending the war.
- US President Trump said he will give an update on the Ukraine minerals deal on Tuesday night and doesn’t think the Ukraine minerals deal is dead, while he added that Ukrainian President Zelensky should be more appreciative.
- White House official confirmed the US is pausing and reviewing Ukraine aid to assess if it is contributing towards a solution. It was also previously reported that the US is hitting the brakes on the flow of arms to Ukraine in which the Trump administration stopped financing new weapons sales to Ukraine and was considering freezing weapons shipments from US stockpiles, according to WSJ.
- US Vice President Vance said it is important for Ukrainian President Zelensky and Russian Putin to come to the negotiating table but added that Zelensky is still not willing to engage and President Trump is taking a realistic perspective on the Russia-Ukraine war. Vance said a minerals deal with Ukraine shows the US has a long-term investment in the country and leaders in Ukraine and Europe acknowledge privately that the Russia-Ukraine war cannot go on forever. Furthermore, Vance said Europeans need to be realistic on the Russia-Ukraine war and need to be saying to Zelensky that the war cannot go on forever.
- European official said the suspension of military aid to Ukraine will cause unnecessary civilian casualties and Ukraine will not be able to counter Russian raids after running out of air defence missiles, according to CNN.
- Europe’s biggest powers are swinging behind efforts to seize over EUR 200bln of frozen Russian assets, as they draw up plans for a ceasefire deal in Ukraine, according to FT.
- Russia’s Kremlin said it is premature to determine the location for the next round of Russia-US talks and that Russia-US talks on Ukraine are unlikely to resume until both countries’ embassies return to full operational capacity. It was also reported that Russia’s envoy to international organisations said Russia is categorically against the deployment of European troops to Ukraine.
- China’s Ministry of Ecology and Environment says it is collecting public opinion towards the regulation of the import of black mass for lithium-ion batteries and recycled steel materials.
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Need to also keep an eye on bottom dredging Nordic and Baltic fishing fleets, who have actually severed under sea capables several times in North Sea and the Baltic Sea.
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