On Economy (past current future)

Probably till now You are aware that economy as science has strange (in my opinion wrong) neopagan base, what on top is salted by gambling growth or virtual clearing, and now when is getting more and more obvious that that skim is wrong and its wealth unreal, suddenly we are thrown in problem’solution’mode by euroatlantic determinists!, tho it was not at all circumstantial event!, something that as plandemix was since 2008 in motion, and “they” didnt wasted time to prepare terrain for particular ordo’ab’chao circumstances too [1][1] maybe as pland B C D E along geopolitics and manufactured’nwo’reality!?, hm are we now prepared for zombie apocalypses when sars’cov’2 failed!?, could really such skim be radiated [1][1] hm whatever “they” need&have so “they” would keep upper hand in the game!?, somehow looks probable that “they” need exactly the printed’food’skim in place so it can roll out zapo scenario!?, simply from “their” position any eventual economic depression will produce even more addicts and certain dystopian violence thus suppose having means how to dispose the useless eaters for “them” is fix, and for what cwd plandemix “they” think will bring stable future [2][2][2] mids which can decide by push’of’button who will be eligible for “their” n’w’o!?, hm would “they” acknowledge such agenda?, logically not!, even less if is tied to satanic variables [2][2][2] but if “they” had have even earlier m’a’d scenarios in rand why not to assume have zombie too [3][3][3] practically in various forms “their” wrong malthusian science was reemerging as must have utopian variable for “their” n’w’o!, and finally it was put in motion as legislation as could be seen 15 years ago when was voted the particular x’pandemics preparedness bill!, hm maybe not all neopagan factions per’se are geocidal!?, and maybe such move was pushed by concerned patriots that were aware for “their” skims so acted in time to allocate funds for fema prepping for zombie plandemix!?, altho in same time we need to contemplate the possibility that the bipartisan swamp is rigging “their” blueprints, in which case we need to focus on resistance by Grace and probably knowing that this is our last stronghold as Christians so “they” are preparing indeed for blue’beam’delusion maybe like fake’second’coming as I am assuming secured by simulacrum through all bands [4][5][6] maybe like that opening door for demons-anathema-to-them [6][6][6] yeah throwing people in some spiritual ecstasy so would feel’d’love hm on what most secure shielding is the fact that we are unworthy for Theosis if havent took part in ascetic righteousness feats so dont fall for it when will happen such trickery!, in essence need to live Consecrated Orthodox Christian Life in Feat so would differ when You are in prelest and when Worthy for Theosis!, what would be even more problematic if You are stimulated on “holiness” by emf brainwashing [7][7][7] So once all get in some delirium after eventual ordo’ab’chao scenario and “someone” presents “himself” as idol then Be Wise and dont kneel even You are coerced by death!, simply You should focus on Eternity even through Martyrs Feat what means no compromise with “their” wrong’neopagan’agendas!, but how if You are stacked like sardines in the concrete jungles and like that dependent from “their” system!?, so Go Rural raise even small Farm so would get independent and withstand any coercion ahead!, now surely many will say the biotech is not on such level yet, but dont forger what is now introduced in public it was boiling for some time in dods’bunker’labs [7][7][7] and the risks that tech to be misused by euroatlantic determinists are real, would Christians in usaf revert the hijack hm that I do Hope is possible [8] still dominionism is huge infiltration so many would be kept calm and aligned to “globalists” [9][9][9] simply for “them” was to-big=to=fail-agenda “their” n’w’o thus in time peddled out many on submission in the euroatalntic realm, but as always couldnt score coz too many variables exists that are overlooked by “them” and as always again and again will fail to reach utopia!, probably thats why trying hard to chip us all so would have more input data for “their” algorithms [10] and compare this kind of logic with “their” livable broiler hype and You will get mesmerized how far “this” can go [11][11][11] in essence an selfprojected crisis that tho as risks didnt materialized [12][12] so “they” are pushing it intentionally to reach there so would have excuse for “their” neopagan’utopian’skims [13][13] practically trying to frame Russia for nuclear ww3 [14][14][14] what has logic around “their” stamina for “long planning” (mazzinis letters come to mind) hm the difference now is that “their” planning is tied to machine solutions (as reductionism till oblivion if the input’master is deist or worst luciferian [15]) simply cant imagine on “what” “they” are ready how intentionally are escalating the ukrainian crisis!, on top “they” improvise coz the past failed plandemix, and actually that makes “their” ea’determinist’globalist skims derailed heavy from tracks!, but I’ll stop here with this digressing thrown solely so would point how uncertain is to debate further about economy when obviously even “they” are after reset of “their” financial casino, not sure just why socialism is seen by “them” as secured road ahead!?, maybe hope will be more trendy [16] or more iconic when after ww3 chaos will emerge as generous by the sfrY blueprint [17] knowing that sooner or later even mids technocracy “they” will lose grip over the system, especially knowing how by trickery “they” are trying to impose “their” neopagan will what surely will provoke constant resistance!, but as we are warned in The Bible Revelation great deception will follow in the end so above all focus on Salvation so would not be deceived, doable if cautious what is served by whom to You …

If by any means “they” bring on west neopagan’humanist’technocracy all need to be aware that life can be still bearable until is not employed vlf elf emf mindmanipulation!, what if “its” rolled out it would be so “they” would keep calm (as “they” see us) the useless eaters, altho that is less problematic as is any eventual coercion on chimeric eugenic vaxing (waterborn airborn or shared by jabs) simply for “them” as deists we are like cattle (how to be explained else the current intentional escalation towards certain fallout) and if Christians are tempted then how much more the rest!?, yet some comfort is that “their” narrative is decimated while “their” wrong ideals exposed!, and that requestions the belief of many in “their” current system or whatever “they” want to rig ahead as euroatlantic determinists!, altho one dont need too much knowhow so would grasp that “they” are dualists if we see the technocratic movement logo even called monad as would be logical for humanist’deist’invention [18] hm just how grim looks whatever from “their” kitchen in the past [19][19][19] tho even now are debacle [20] is this pointing that “they” dont even care about utopianism but as possessed elites just rush to throw this World in bloodbath so would gain better position among demons-anathema-to-them once cross on the other side!?, hm what “they” are not aware is that as “they” so as “their” puppet masters will be in eternal punishment and torment!, but solely by rejecting Christ “they” are deprived from this fact i.e. cant even sense it or even if can simply afraid to resist and escape Judgement [21] otherwise I dont see why at all would not be reached compromise and balance between east and west for multipolar world, why would chase one’world’government by all means, unless there is greater skim on the horizon!, I mean as You can see I am also pointing that everyone should work his job and as experts we need to see them debating 24/7 on eforums thus in a way this sounds like I am technocracy prone still my emphasis is on transparency but also reexperting the experts through ngo or party public eforums so would be evaded scientific dictatorship like was recently imposed by ea’plutocrats mids “their” plandemix!

And if we judge by “their” euphemisms supposedly “they” are not after cyborgs and totalitarianism but just perfection, what could be sensed as wrong by various interpretations or correct logic where “they” are heading [22][23] and in all “their” exceptionalism what strikes the eye most heavy is that “they” are soulless as transhumanists [24] so go compromise with “them” anyhow!, hm did “they” envisioned transhumanism for “their” slaves while “they” as pharaohs reserved seat in deism as luciferians!?, logically not all factions of “their” are after unison utopian vision!? hm we should be grayed as slaves while “they” colored as scientific’dictatorhip’caste!? I really cant miss the notion that even the neoliberal economists see technocracy also as “their” right [25] what has logic if we know that whole humanism strive for that very same ideal [26] so we can expect joint spin of scientific dictatorship, altho marxists see “them” as faschists yeah humanist neoplatonist semantics [27][27]-[27][27] if know that what is common for both is elitism [27][27] what is interesting tho is that we’ve been already splashed with home’silicone’skim while still technocracy is not rolled what now points on huge vacuum in “their” projections!, can it be that “they” are also coming to senses!?, Hope So, what in essence depends whether the lower echelons will recognize the alchemic-spirit-anathema-to-it and as result disobey to peddle “their” cause!, yet people need to wake up too so would refuse to serve “them” or “their” agendas [28][28] for what most useful thing is exposing “their” last twisted euphemism for new’world’order the now infamous great’reset’label [29] hm for one century “they” were clear that the current need to be replaced by new, even before the green’agenda of c’o’r in '60s, also in '90s bush was talking about nwo, also his son decade later, so what happened the term to get relabeled!?, why “they” were afraid to use the very original term!?, maybe kind of scientificism struck “them” that cant attract support if genuine!?, or maybe coz per’se as science dont have Telos thus woke up that order would be wrong term for “them”, altho whenever wherever its needed could twist ankles [30]-[31][31][31][31]-[32] Still obviously more appealing argument is that in question is “PR from fear” so eventually masses would not revolt knowing how long (at least half century) is exposed “their” new’world’order by various demystificators, so think “they” were gambling big time coz like this “they” are even more exposed while trying to push us in “their” utopia, which how had have particular blueprint and inertia for quite a while its obvious that is word for greater skim behind the scenes where one’world’government is needed so the false prophet would get enthroned!, and why hm that is unknown eschatological question for me, maybe so would be stalled the Final Judgement in a modern herod alike slaughter of the innocents in Bethlehem!?, but this kind of guessing even if it could anyhow give some logical answer why “they” are so stubbornly persistent to impose utopian n’w’o That will not make You resolute to focus on Salvation (tho pandemic potentially could) but for this first of all You will need to foster for spiritual feats like 1. Praying and Praise like 1.2 Catechesis and Theology (i.e. 1. Praxis and 1.2 Theory) so would resist the spirit-of-antichrist-anathema-to-it!, waiting on political solution as some safety rope think is risk people to loosen and while hoping that Miracle will follow solely coz some rulers will get Holy or are standing in Truth simply it depends from all of us and if and when we are not recognizing the times and their fulfilment as call for Eternal Joy (or coz stubborn apostasy Punishment) but instead loosely behave like what matters is what we will have to eat or wear i.e. instead on Christian Feat for Salvation many are per’se focused on hedonism materialism and egoism then alone by themselves are provoking on themselves misery that if happens (again) it will be temptation for awakening towards Repentance and Metanoia!, yet must remind You Please dont take my reasoning blindly and Please do ask for answers and opinions on this topic by relevant authorities that will not improvise like I do coz not anyhow expert on the soteriological topic [10] tho dont forget You cant expect from authorities to improvise or juggle with assumptions!, especially problematic would be to expect plain technical answers eg. what is enough secure exit for all from the current trap in which we are pushed towards “their” ordo’ab’chao?, Eh if just people would grasp that many as victims of e-addictions are cooling down the love in its hearts, addictions through which fall in fornication if not apostasy how struggling even to control anger what about when carried by judging mindset coz scarcity of right eTOS environment but just abundance of agitprop nets full of sticky’gaslighting’propaganda usually thrown through tele’vision e’portals or soc.nets defacto (the last net in net so once someone get hooked to be difficult to get away as direct shareware node that is feeding particular propaganda vortex!), I sincerely think that in question is intentional skim for as much as possible greater distraction from Salvation but go figure out how so demons-anathema-to-them acted mids neopagan secularism through scientists sociologists statesman and alike people to secure hazy shady murky info realm where main virtue of euroatlantic determinists would be propaganda, hm trickery is all “they” are!, otherwise cant be effective in selling “their” pharaonic exploitation as unmatched success, what by all means is removing us from our True Life and depriving us from our True Purpose and Meaning in it, what maybe is not resting so much on Capitalism as nostril for tat share but elitist ultraliberlism as aristocracy resting on deceit what is norm as in capitalism so as in socialism, on what eventual potential solution is opening of the system by eTOS vibe through institutional eforums as opportunity for fast control and fast communication between the citizens joined in ngo’s or party eforums how on the go will be addressed every problem or solution instead like now to be released from sleeve as usually copy-paste acts not rarely boiled down in “someones” basement!, but this is only the systemic side of the issue as spin towards control, for the cultural spiritual emotional control by neopagans not to start altho indeed all are intertwined through economy directly or indirectly, still there any eventual wanted change could happen by other means too!

… wonder in which basement was boiling GerdL futurism, probably some with teuton echoing [1][1] (forget on racist labeling I am pointing on elitist alchemic lusts) echo that was shapeshifting around all european realm as neopaganism and neoplatonist apotheosis finally getting standardized by rosicrucians [1][1] and “their” eg, nazi variations [1][1] yet the modern versions got far advanced due to the electronic revolution and now as bionic update even tasty as excused by health right on quality of life altho what as we’ve seen by the past plandemix just fallacy of excuse but push toward human 2.0 on small door coz “their” neopagan lust for superhumanity!, hm indeed GeraldL as precovid futurist sounded just like ambitious tranhumanist idealist obviously enough academic so would be appealing to all the humanist broilers that embraced “homo’deus’meme” as something logical for our survival as if in question is indeed some naive scientific cult in which the transhumanist chapter was revealed as was necessary to the circumstances as preped and rolled hiving agenda, yeah for “them” just like in freemasonry the enlightenment comes only for the high’initiated’adepts while the rest are getting conditioned just right before the “change” when bit by propaganda bit by bullying is imposed “some” the skim eg. even harari was careful before wef’ed [2][2][2] which leaves many even now in disbelief how transhumanism is smoothly embraced by the smoothly silenced academia once question anyhow “their” will hm I really wonder what will “they” do now with ElonM coz defied “their” gravity in huge strolls!?, coz yeah it was agenda instigated by military heads so noone would complain against higher cause patriotism!, respect to all that stood up [3][3][3][3] tho many didnt not rarely manipulated around the risks what eg. probably was case with DonaldT who maybe was peddled like look we must catalogize and monitor all coz among us there are many extra’terrestrial’anomalies on what further encouragement maybe came by cooperative pastors, hm but what if the peddlers are “those” what tho has some paperclip causality [1][1] yet so would not throw the thread too oftopic would just say clips were regular in various forms throughout all past century technocratic white papers [4][5][5][4][4] as manuals till “scientific” utopia or better said humanist alchemic neopagan lust for heaven’on’earth what surely was kind of history repeating thus not driven by earthly but “some” astral creativity since who knows exactly when by whom among the fooled in this world [6][6][6]

Sorry for the expanded intro but do find important that reshare of points in context of the next diagram that altho I’ve have seen it earlier yet back then I was like cmon this GerdL is just cleverly milking eu funds while tilting in some swiss sauna, but now wow are “they” indeed such weirdos!?, hm I havent studied anyhow the w’e’f gurushians but this opens comparison room to “their” map!, and hm probably this chart it would had have reached some stable upgrade of “their” agenda if wasnt for “their” failed plandemix, but now what!? do we need indeed to wait to see when ordo’ab’chao will be rolled as “their” backup so “they” would dream out “their” deist eschatology!?, can “they” at all step back and admit we were wrong!?, or is it possible to accept multipolar world and freedom from “their” utopinism!?, is such reality too scary for “their” exceptionalism, or just afraid that it might make “them” weak and the hooked serfs and slaves to start disobeying blind servitude if chill out with “their” wrongly employed utopianism!?, I mean why we all need to be thrown in such mode if “they” claim that “they” are champions of democracy!?, who are “they” fooling “themselves” or “their” a.i. vendors!?, O elitist euroatlantic neopagans Repent before its too late!!! Is this really what You believe will come out from “your” transhumanism [7][8][9] the next graph is from the last footnote to which really the following video bellow is just extra stupid brainwashing to which we lack maybe some monty python drop [10]

Now unlike the retrofuturists which per’se were concerned with the wellbeing of the society, the current futurists are more concerned with the chance for individual betterment, what as individualism suggests just one thing > that deists implanted own fuse among ea’globalists so the chase for x-man would be secured by removing any bioethical or ecoethical concerns, what matters is the opportunity for advancement which seen like that as deprived from any moral obstacles (what about religious) once is embraced as normal trend defacto will bring cyborg and/or chimeric monstrums (if already didnt) or simply will upgrade the current till level of millimeter wave threats on scale of atomic weapons > yeah atomic ants for “them” as darwinists is maybe “their” ultimate goal mids “their” new’atlantis’utopia (those who cant grasp this humanist’personification recheck some anamnesis about “their” insecticism hype [1][1]), and yeah as then so as now “their” ideological PR’s are seen indeed as scifi gurus, dont know just what sticker will suit that label better now [2][2][2] hm maybe sounds nice and interesting as PR, but to live in such matrix for good that smells on some surreal eugenic horror, somehow not even possible to be imagined how things till what extent can or will go wrong if we do embrace “their” shift!, are we aware that there will be no turning back even as ubi’tech [3][3] what about ubi’philosophy [3][3][3] (slavs would read the acronym as “kill” (уби) and not that I want to reason in pagan terms as projecting some wordmancy but knowing that “they” are neopagan and not rarely project in “their” agendas such spins yes I do find interesting that “universal’basic’income” as ubi meme in context of “their” agenda for such collective socialist euthanasia of the free will of the Christian masses and imposing the neopagan will of the elites upon them!)

Simply in hands of deists, along our Silence what defacto would be affirmation by us as Christians, yeah then what wrong can come out from “their” already obviously covertly released bionic’genetic’revolution!?, hm whats next once You’ve became tagged’guinea’pig, normally what else than further experimenting coz “they” are the masters of trial&error till perfection, that tho again will end up sooner or later like experiment expired if not failed, even when social experiments are rolled out, what about like now when is rolled mass global covert cyborg one, yeah what wrong can come from that!?, ha loose Your imagination and hope maybe emp preset on “their’great’reset” will become regular urban’guerilla hacking spin so eventually as wrong’neopagan’elites to give up to give up later if not sooner!?, I mean if it was word for some kind of natural process of social path towards transhumanist subculture where by free will someone would had have chosen to become cyborg (altho also wrong anyhow as Christian to give support for such agenda stil) then I’ll understand the atheist rush of adrenaline coz whatever chance for progress ||understandable coz many are brainwashed (by entertainment agitprop for almost one century) that will have chance to jaywalk to martian dunes or jupiterian lava or saturnalian “antartics”||, but like now all to be pushed towards such reality without any wide debate directly till Ai-IoT-IoB convergence [4][5] that along the GPT luring as kind of Grand Personality Theft is becoming new second chance for transhumanist to put You indirectly on track towards homo’silicone’reality (however kinky that sounds [5] tho stimulated kinkiness by removing bioethics ask Yourself why [6][6][6] hm I really wasnt expecting the plamdemix spin but more like gradual luring through fun work and lusts > which looks like now maybe “they” are reconsidering it again as invite trap [6][6][6] tho “they” lost huge moment of blind belief how “their” biotech proved deadly!, I really dont get why we need to be instantly lobotomized for embracing by trickery covertly or by coercion “their” utopia as now or never, and isnt this screaming that there is some greater skim behind the scenes!?, hm dont ned to guess which one when luciferians are on the top of “their” pyramid!, but You still believe that You live in democratic west, where the rule of law is above all, yeah above all broilers but not their elites!. what about debate lobbying referendums, plus who is constitutionally sovereign in west, the bank’corp’elites or the citizens!?, what suggests that we are confronted indeed with neopagan’deist’monstrums that interpret the constitutions as “they” like when “they” like!, and just like in the past two world wars simply dont care how who will be peddled towards what from the plutocrats and masses so all sold would serve devotedly “their” lust for septic’tank’reality of homo’sillicone’utopia!, reality that is envisioned and projected only in its beautiful cloths, but as we know that deists push this process from behind (and “they” realized neopagan alchemic magicians) then why dont grasp cautiously the ElonM admission that indeed with “their” human 2.0 (and alike spins) ea-determinists (ea-transhumanists) are summoning demons-anathema-to-them > for which would not be prime goal an destruction of our civilization but colonization and enslaving of our free will (hm till earthly sense of the eternal torment even when we are still alive) hm what probably or better said actually will be award for all that have abandoned Lords Law and Truth so at least some from some would Repent till the Final Judgement comes upon this World … In Essence Its our wrong will that is provoking wrong causality but Its Our Almighty Lord Providence how will end up All in the end as consequence!, and it would had have been ideal we to Repent collectively now, but knowing how long euroatlantic determinists were consumed by “this” utopian agenda that would be Miracle if we succeed to focus on resetting “their” reset by Grace!, maybe thats why “they” are rushing to release open’ai’s so would be secured penetration in minds of man even without wide disseminated nanobots in the veins round around!?, will some insider expose “their” reserve plans soon!?, or “they” by “themselves” will be revealing it!?

about the video: https://stoneindustries.com/septic-services/septic-tank-additives/

Selling poop as gold or maybe even worst “golden poop”!, sure what else “they” would say while selling cyborg reality as needed balance for survival of the economy, hm really cheap gaslighting!, yeah blending centralization and decentralization maybe by becoming hived broiler in “their” swiss’super’computer to which will be imbued by occupation programming purpose for maintenance of “their” utopia!, are “they” really so blindly stupid when projecting how its not so big deal if we all simply shift in such reality altho defacto the biotech in question is to many deadly!?, hm are “they” so naive that the same will be everlasting!?, are “they” not already hived!?

In the previous post I am trying to make distinction between the past century futurists which by paradox some will say cant be labeled as collectivists ~ simply didnt took official stance on economy or coz predominantly were elite were far from the working class hero, yeah fabian alike italian elite altho officially with greater nationalist than internationalist leaning (like eg. fabians were, which tho how were stimulated by the anglosaxon imperialists dreaming for global dominion through new pax’britanica or pax’americana as pax’universalis empire defacto were ubernationalists too), anyway italian futurists would had have been national socialists still coz the liberal cultural vibe far from the marxian understanding for art and defacto far from communist mindset [1][1] still think liberalism and individualism were less pronounced simply coz people needed to hold together even as capitalists if wanted to survive, but what made the futurist credo think is the progress through industrialization and national pride, so Yes my assertion is somehow vague that the original futurists labeled as retrofuturists [2] are less individualistic and more collectivist prone with their ideology for progress by machines, actually then that tech and hype couldnt be imposed on all widely …

… thus the modern futurists would act also (from “their” perspective) towards betterment of whole society and coz potential biotech abundance could be more effective on whole societies, still coz this is done by exceptional scientific covert elitist skim then how we can say its not bathed in individualism of the (trans)humanist elites, deist elite for which becoming man’god as man’machine is ultimate goal since the reawakening of paganism in renaissance, simply “they” are consumed with that lust for eternal life on earth, but actually can reach only eternal selfdelusion of utopia and just impose own wrong elitist will upon all naive to embrace such experimental biotech what about hiving in the nets and machines in hands of neopagans or programmed by “them” and doing that on top with consent coz fooled by trickery how there is no alternative, yeah tell that to all those who were seeing industrialization as ideal towards utopia but defacto pushed us in ecological collapse, now superimpose that logic on nanoscale and in ultrafast pace as biotech ecology in our bodies, so its more than logical that we will see collapse of our true nature but what is even more scary is that that will be followed by misery of experimental trends for cushioning of all side effects coz the circumvented bioethics by humanists towards transhumanism, in essence playing gods so would reach apotheosis for granted even now has wrong consequences how the Peace in this World is already disturbed and scene prepared for ordo’ab’chao phase so many would volunteer enmasse day after fallout for artificial medical patches, Hope I am wrong but sensing how “they” need controlled chaos so on few levels would reach needed change towards “their” apotheosis, and probably dont care or worry whether west will be victorious ready for infiltration or to act by various scenarios, altho we know “they” will fail yet “they” are blinded for that fact consumed by “their” exceptional humanist might that screams all will kneel and follow or perish, at least how mids the past plandemix was coerced Mankind on mass vaxing with IoB needed biotech points to that!

Also I’ll need to point that the suggestions in the 3rd footnotes are intentionally chosen as less scary, I didnt wanted to choke Your mind with potential horror projection of potential metaverse nightmares, and what also its not additionally pointed is that when and if coz such hiving we are opened to greater demonic attacks Lord Forbid if so then many will be at greater risks as while wake so as while asleep mids the astral realm, not that that is not now case but lets say as hived that will be on steroids!, so knowingly or not we are sleeping in greater spiritual risks than simply biological risks from merging our bodies with machines!, on what culmination would be if we are tagged by some sigils coz portal magic and complete possession by demons or by chimeric change of the dna the same to become issue with newborns from start, and what to say Hope this is only wrong speculation!, hm but what if its true!?, what cant You understand about “them” as neopagan deists which embrace luciferianism as liberation!?, arent even antroposophs or theosophs as rosicrucian variations suggesting that is normal to be embrace some of “theirs” ahriman that will purify “their” cause [2][2][2] I mean People Wake Up!, start debating are “they” pushing only cosmetic changes towards needed full’digital’economy or in question is complete shift towards “their” human 2.0!?, dont be naive that 4th industrial revolution for “them” means just shift from fiat to blockchain finance!

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maybe this imposing spin would be more like acclimatization for all ambivalent hedonists, and not so the masses, altho through metaverse alike virtual and/or augmented reality [3][3] chat rooms would had have been inviting and potentially pull the majority of consumers, yet the masses would had have been ideally pulled through educational and professional integration of simulators in everyday learning and work, but on what as late agenda now “they” are somehow as in rush inpatient to finalize it!, giving prime attention even before the economic hardships if its true the calim of JulieS in the next footnote hm is this concerning think Yes but why “they” need commercial simulators when have military one already operational!? [4][5] altho by the logic of all hightech is statetech [6] then what we are seeing actually is boost of the public showcase that became probably urgent how “their” geopolitical math dont adds in expected direction thus in panic need to rush!?, but if so then “they” are making huge mistakes simply coz every huge change is by default seen with caution especially when as fake reality adds up to the fake gmo food also fake deism also fake progress even fake unisex globalist culture on top now waiting to be polished by even faker money so understandable caution will side kick by default in various forms and pitch [7] hm even if “they” were invested whole will in fintech it takes time till it gets regular trend even when the atmosphere is loosen what about now when electrified till ceiling coz the failed plandemix and deadly bionic&chimeric jabs and to all that the geopolitical gaslighting with the ukrainian crisis!, so “they’ve” lost compass and while rushing practically exposing “themselves” how too-big-to-fail is for “them” the hiving!, tho in same time corruption too, but also cheap hollywood pr maybe …

… but no “they” didnt had have time for such gradual shift obviously altho even as plan b example still logical when seen from side, the question is why “they” were rushing with the m’rna jabs!?, and that should be obvious that “they” are not after betterment of our reality but bringing “their” own x-man utopia for which biotech humanity there is need of bionic and genetic revolution to be ongoing hype and not some potential which will always pressured by right legislature or questionable acceptance even on the first level around bringing to attention bioethical dilemmas what about the safety if not validity of trials [8] hm for “them” such normal motion towards win-win circumstances where we would reach certain good practice of biotech as societies was probably too slow idea (by “their” math we are already behind the timeframe of kurtzweil&co about reaching man’machine’deus) so rushed extra selfconfidence that as “their” biotech so as “their” trickery will not prove deadly by greater margin but it did!, and now what, what is next, returning to the earlier pre-wef regular introduction and penetration of nanotech and IoB in our lives, or shamefully like that now would be trying to erase the bad memories of the past plandemix and assure masses dont be afraid from human2.0 coz homo’silicone is Your destiny!?, ///\\ (yeah as is nato to conquer whole world in the name of “democracy” usually done by colored revolution i.e. through infiltration by trickery coz in reality it has no honest military stamina as alliance but as euroatalntic rat’race’representative of military dog that grown through such subversive colonization in reality is bound only to acting by deception coz come from realm where the main euroatlantic elites in power are actually deceitful neopagans chasing some “own” wrong utopian determinism altho as paradox by acting champion of democracy (supposedly respecting the free will of the vote of the referendum of the plebs) the very famous double standard plutocratic nepotistic and elitist western hypocrisy of exceptionalism!) ///\\ Actually if we think twice the whole superhumanity hype is first of all secured by military experiments, and however the same were rolled out on control groups till dont become regular bionic&genetic revolution on which whole societies will contribute “their” chase for superman would again go painfully slow, so “they’ve” rolled out plandemix but what “they’ve” achieve is scamdemix of scaredemix so now even Patriots would have second thought whether to join military so would not get lobotomized and become “someones” drone!

Now superimpose all this as fakery of virtual reality to the first post corpses magican logic of RomleyS about the covert rule of euroatlnatic determinists [9] can we say now the current full’digital’upgrade its built coz even greater control and manipulation!?, surely depending what You are sighing!, tho cant claim that such magic is effective if You dont surrender Your will to it [9] So dont make idol from it or as a matter of fact even exist dont give it attention maybe worthy only so would wonder whether there is indeed some historical correlation [10][10][10] hm dont take my logic from the last two footnotes per’se as ultra correct coz it would be indoctrination and I dont want that its simply mine logic and maybe wrong how is not debated enmasse and surely many will see it as some kind of nationalistic burst [11] but its not on contrary I give per’se credence on the ethnic affiliation in this case Slavic Orthodox Christian vibe [12] tho maybe again wrong coz Orthodox Christians are not just slavs but all ethnicums are bearers of The Truth, but to whom what is Truth and how perceive it why eg. in context of money or even debt what about ancestry!?, were we soldout or boughtout in the past!?, how when eventual bargain evaporated!?, but as Our Savior Said dont pay too much attention to the roots coz You could get easily misleaded!, simply differ freed and enslaved Mankind and give a hand through Prayers instead hatrate unless You are attacked when logically not all have Martyrs Feat thus logically would pushback i.e. those who are Christian surely would seek to evade such reality and rest their hope on bringing fruits by their own hands on their tables, especially important now when You are stimulated that “fake and poop food” will be commodity with benefits of social inclusiveness etc. societal conformism needed so “their” utopia would get version 2.0 rolling!, working class heroes stacked in city pods where You will mine some collective emotional sensual or lusty vortex needed for attractiveness of “their” matrix!, sometimes think demons-anathema-to-them lured “them” as neopagan elites on this kind of matrix trickery so would dive in greater debauchery with people and in return to “them” is promised maybe tripping on mars!?

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Now what we are witnessing is direct is direct attack on our very nature through excuses like “Do It In The Name of Economy” still such cyborgization was less probable to pass thus it was rolled out covertly through plandemix yet again with prime excuses “economy cant wait on stalled progress”, altho we all know that as fintech it can grow and expand even without people actually to be borgged down, but no “someone” needed all to be exposed by the fake vaccines on “its” biotech!, why?, in my opinion its not in question primarily panopticon surveillance skim [13] nor potential for economic stability but per’se chase for “their” x-man!, in essence clash between euroatlantic deist luciferianism as neopaganism against Christianity and just as once Christians removed the pagan vibe from the scene [14] now neopagans are trying to regain momentum by subversion and substitution what is done on various levels [15] even cheaply mindbogling one eg. today on Orthodox Palm Sunday I’ve noticed rather strange lets say spin of “theirs” when coz “they” are acting by superstitious will not wonder if with some stupid intention “someone” rushed to put isis on The Throne in The Church what was looking rather ridiculous altho nasty per’se as is trading with Icons [16] and altho as ridiculing of the Holy Icons by leveling them on level of money yet probably we have superstitious elites which thought like that will get rich yeah in “their” stupidity coz more people will make disgraceful purchase with such bill (yet how much too much ~ think it dont need too much) on other hand maybe coz many among the local elites are ex-commies thus atheists or deists (yeah as such proactive puppets in some big picture [17]) also has logic that done “their” best to ridicule Christianity and bringing it on level of compared with idols!?, really such kind of misfortune of emergence dont come by pure circumstance!, yet now obviously “some” think can interfere in the Effectiveness of Liturgy what is really ridiculous if we have even slight knowledge from and about Orthodox Christianity!, simply coz we as Christians dont give or see any power in idols as “they” are but that is interesting reminder that You can expect coercion on whatever skim of chipping hiving catalogizing by “them” simply coz for “them” that matters i.e. to put “some” mark on You, obviously have some issues with sigils!?, otherwise why such hype with the pentagrams on flags in romantism i.e. by default every worshiper of the luciferian freemasonic enlightenment era [18][18]

And maybe this past paragraph above dont looks extra tied to economy, still be aware that economy is and can be interpreted in context of various variables in our Life as directly or indirectly connected influenced influencing our ideals our needs our compromises, So try reasoning out of the box coz “their” box is indeed neopagan and in it You all need to be stacked like insects!, tho still have contemplated where in it is positioned as coordinate system of theories Freeeconomics [20][20]~[20]~[20] what points that I am not at all some insider, cant even point to clear cut like “from dot-coms to subprimes, it’s been a decade of decadence” [21] but I encourage You do search seek ask for ontopic public debate among insightful!, thus dont read me as some expert on the topic but rather like cook with fractal menu shared solely so would check how hard is for chewing swallowing or processing some particular mosaic info fractally tied to various topics ideas understanding of mine!, eh it would had have be interesting to read what others have to substract if not add to my reasoning eg. about decadence as greatest western achievement along hypocrisy an worthyness only for septic’tank’reality in which we need to act as if enjoy the “fruits” of “their” enlightenment [22]

Can we recognize decadent vibe in communication where in gallop of cacophony the largest bulk of Mankind at the moment is trying to debate on social networks!?, not even popping out debate among halfliterate even on those still alive eforums!, or when is present is also leveled on soc.nets trivial chitchat!, what about to be seen eTOS vibe and in right manner on right way the public debate would rise above the podcast expertise that can be nothing else than modern blogging but far away from neat constant eforum debate!, hm why there is scarcity of replies on my threads cant say, maybe indeed I am too dificult for reading what think is just excuse altho do exploit that scarcity so would jump in an provoke thinking if not debate!, surely if there were eg. on DGS more profound debateer not to popup further than to share some ultra’important link, but now Sorry and Thank for the opportunity to occupy some space here … maybe would provoked greater response if focused on grammatical flow (yet for that need clear head from emf molesting!) anyway I am going with my flow while exploring particular topic thus not rarely from wonnabe discussion my threads are switching in forum blogging Yet what think finally for a while will be put in Chill Out Mode … simply I need to focus on more important metaphysical issues like slaying the dragons that have wounded which now want revenge, yeah “they” see my decimation of “their” neopagan fakery of n’w’o waiting to happen as bloody act thus now are trying to paint me evil coz “their” evilry, and that asks now for lets say Spiritual Battle per’se but also will of Martyrs Feat if in parallel act through Prayers and Demystification for what hm maybe I am not so prepared coz dont live in fullness Consecrated Life due to various stupid local traps that were prepared for me by the local sold souls of poltroons to euroatlantic determinists and “their” demons-anathema-to-them!, anyway, It was Pleasure being part of this Community for a while Stay Safe and Live in Grace through Christ thus do get Inchurched would be my Message Of Hope Love and Salvation …

hm I find it bit interesting to share one point about UBI hype i.e. why it could be rolled out by euroatlantic determinists, which if we know that had have inherited malthusian mindset in their n’w’o stamina and depop is firm pivot in that agenda, then why “they” would introduce UBI spin which defacto will bring population growth!?, hm hm hm one thing that could be taken away from the next snapshot from “Robonomics - principles, benefits, challenges, solutions” by StanislavHI [1][1] is that like this potentially globalists will resolve easily the issue of nationalism!, i.e. by introducing UBI in the western world alone (defacto cant in whole) will pull immigration waves to the western realm and like that simply will corner easily and quickly any nationalistic mood especially in europe for federalization once the haterate will boil and clash between different cultures will emerge, what could eg. serve for easy marking and removing of all patriots that oppose such inertia thus in essence the spear of any eventual opposition for federalization of european union to be decimated by trickery, I’ve saw that happened in my country recently but on other political level when before hand was balooned patriotic street mood that once suppressed (by jailing the protestors which were framed to storm the macedonian assembly) bit later when it was indeed needed as opposition such vibe (mids the forcible unconstitutional change of the name of our country by the local globalist stooges) almost as noone got out to protest (with respect to the unbelievable few that did), its kind of before hand exhausted resistance balloon coz later greater skim!, hm judge by Urself!, coz UBI dont have any logic mids this kind of system, eventually NFT one [2][2] where we will be all shipped in some simulacrum of reality due to some global cataclysm and to it the technocratic response would be to share coupons for all so would balance out any eventual hysteria by the current wealthy elites that are not among the infamous 1% but enough motivated if end up bankrupt and open all the cards about the whole past illusion of democracy and prime fraudulent levers of the current plutocracy that logically will secure “their” position in the next announced technocracy of 4th industrial revolution!, anyway, maybe this assumption is wrong, but smells on rotten tomatoes somehow, simply coz indeed I dont see any argument that will prove my hunch wrong!, especially knowing that all of their skims regards the n’w’o inertia are fraudulent spins eg. pushing co2 economy while main culprit for the global warming is ch4 [3] also claiming digital economy is secure way ahead while even before ChatGPT broke the 192bit cryptographic key it was logical that even by EMP hack it could be leveled whole any eventual full digital economy etc. etc. fallacies that are part of “their” great reset that cant be excused anyhow democratically but just logically seen only as elite ea-determinist strive towards new’world’order!

so read in this page from that paper, wouldnt be mass emigration provoked by UBI hype!?, think without second question, the answer will be by magnitude of continental storming!, hm be friendly and give a though on this logic!?, maybe I am missing something?, could be this also shortcut for voluntary shout “mark us all mark us all so we would be safe from those savages that occupied our country and after hived us expel those usurpers”, but yeah “they” will mark U and Ur usurpers too but will leave them so nationalism would reach multiculti form mids what selling out Ur sovereignty completely to the eurobolshevics will be fix (for now is sold to some 40% of mandatory compliance with “their” commission directives)

as I see the context of the last post couldnt be understood clearly without the photo text above, so if someone wants to read it need to right click the photo and open it in new tab … how else to get the UBI point from the position we are all in!?, almost if we all cant accept what daVos projected for us!, who would think in his right mind that such UBI shift is possible, we take for granted that we are secured and reinsured by default to stay free, altho even now we are not at all free but hostages to the neopagan’euroatlantic’determinists when through blackmails we are kept maneuvered till submission to “their” will, what about our offspring if we embrace UBI shift!!!

You are talking about “universal basic income?”

What is your vision for that?

@bahri … television, in slavic tele means calf, yep the golden calf would like to UBI all!, coz like that we are chasing heaven’on’earth, tho by the shear wrongly employed free will even mids socialism people are pulling graceless life and like that sodomah&gomorah is secured so sooner or later disaster strikes, Macedonia is one good ex-yu example for that, specifically coz is Holy Slavic Land from where was unraveled and started Baptism and Literacy of the Slavic Ethnos upwards to Russia till China … still due to particular wrong inertia mids romanticism when as all the rest embraced freemasonic and beic support for instigating revolutions also the local patriots put knife&dagger on The Bible as oath and bulk of their leaders (voyvodi) became freemasonic meisters even grand meisters of regional masonic lodges, coz they were from this Holy Slavic Land altho everyone got liberated from the Ottoman Empire and made own state, we here end up emptyhanded!, later ofcourse mids ww2 altho tried to unite all earlier partitioned lands (in the ww1 balkan wars) again didnt suceed!, and finally when we entered socialist federative republic of yugoslavia (the Vardar part of Macedonia) and collectivization industrialization prosperity hit the bell yet again due to promiscuity on steroids, which altho became norm everywhere in the federation, in our republic only disaster strike!, here I am pointing on the causality how came to that, tho the reason for the quake came from elsewhere [1][1] and most notable resemblance to elf weapon is the frying of the ionosphere thus extra heat pressure beneath [2][2][2] (now Bahri dont go here offtopic about this, instead quote the passage and reply in the main thread, say hello to Ur americorps frinds from me :)) its interesting whether its enough mids commie-socialism (sfry alike) elites to be corrupt (eg. by promiscuity) so disaster would strike, coz mids republicanism the sovereign is not the party but the citizens [3-6] hence if west get UBI on their shoulders and the elites are corrupt yep disaster will strike, the same could be said also for any future Tsardome etc., the point is that the prime initiation are “some” sins i.e. as higher as someone (or something) is in hierarchy so is the responsibility higher to be errorless on all levels, and on Holy Grounds hm that is even more (not sure how much) factor, eg. all to join nato coz stability for macedonians that would be destabilization!, aside that some time ago “someone” put in the epicenter of Skopye (across the pentagram assembly) statue of prometheus (lucifer) [4] yeah we had have once ubi but now if happens here again it will be sealed by the most disastrous earthquake, and I had have saw some vision like whole town in ruins (whole) but with visions is always 50/50 [5] i.e. they given to us for Repentance and will we Repent dont know, lets say prometheus could be dismembered by citizens (for now had have put him underwear) [6] but how to bring back justice to the sovereign (people) and by constitutional norm retroactively citizens to count themselves through referendum whether will stay or leave nato coz by trickery were pushed in, by “their” by trickery elected representatives (local stuff: dui put norm that only winners among ethnic parties could make coalition but broke the deal, yeah now are barking how so when end up aside)

anyway, this UBI hype, in slavic languages ubi means to kill [7] and how now I am projecting that can provoke wrong causality coz this or that, as logic can be also applied on us individually as persons i.e. if we dont repent we will get illnesses (as motivation for repentance) till get cancerous, will we repent hm its up to us, especially problematic for those that are Christians and especially if are living sinful life intentionally altho aware that that is grieve sin even more for those that are Inchurched even greatly for those that have Spiritual Father, as higher in hierarchy one goes so as in eternity will be greater punishment!, so be clever end in time Repent [8] collectively that would mean vote and elect for Clean By Hearth except strong by intellect Persons … if not prepare for the next stage usually in time projected by/on television … whether it came by softpower (plandemix/economoclysm) or hardpower means (ordo’ab’chao scenarios as controlled or not chaos) as means for gaslighting Christians to accept “their” n’w’o skim [9] think not just twice but again and again till its not too late!

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This is kind of difficult to understand what you are talking about, could help if you can use a little shorter sentences and paragraphs.

Universal basic income in theory seems like that could be a good thing, if resources are available to provide basic housing and food for folks.

The resistance usually seems to be from people who work and pay a lot of taxes don’t want their tax spending to go to help people who aren’t working.

on “white” papers UBI sounds nice, utopian startrek equilibrium, where I want it al I want it now gomes with push of a button!, the problem is that along all there is glitch called push’d’button people [1][1] and that hm its lets say only neopagan wishful ideal, but also Orthodox Christian Heresy i.e. The Gift Of The Free Will to be manipulated to manipulate others and that to bring happiness, what at best will be ridiculous, practically impossible!, doable only by force and with certain negative causality, depending on the weight of the manipulation, seen from Christian perspective once someone is Baptized then is manipulated The Holy Spirit by force, and that has huge consequences, what about when someone has other Holy Mysteries on his sol like Marriage like Unction like living Inchurched Consecrated Life, then bounces back The Wrath Of Our Almighty Lord thus even someone had have good intentions in the end the fairytale will turn in eternal nightmare!

on other hand we should have in mind that this kind of system is doable and possible, but if its instigated by consent in some community, and without manipulation, but Free Choice who how is willing to accept it, libertarianism comes to mind along full local decentralization, and when one by one many will join similar or willing to accept such reality to be reached in some places particular UBI ideal …

now is this UBI anyhow western idea, think not!, or maybe!?, surely marxism is western’utopian’oil, just experimented on others before its peddled to own broilers [2][2][2] the problem comes when this will be pushed by trickery and some of the elite western factions are not willing to accept it, simply “they” have issue with “their” honeycombing of power, while consolidation of the same eventually could come only through controlled ordo’ab’chao so by blackmail to be reached western commie consensus, and that hm is far from possible in these times, except if indeed its not instigated the MAD scenario maybe by mass altered perception yeah on all frequencies shared d’albe hallucination [3][3][3] long story short Fear is “their” only god cumulatively as western power factions, so “they” would seek by any means to compact and secure “their” power if indeed its certain that the world is heading towards deluge [4] in which case “their” malthusian reflex kicks strongly in “their” heads [5] and see no other exit but to colonize whatever “they” can, some say Africa is the jackpot [6][6] and thats why we are seeing push for global UBI projecting instead western one and then after one by one the rest to be invited in “their” utopian simulacrum!

I said I’ll pause, but necessity made me rethink my choice, not about any need for hook with google a.i. [1] tho it could be said the inertia became also demanding so I would distract myself and others from the wrong waring hype currently steaming in the middle eastern realm, but foremost my motivation for this was Why I didnt explore the risks from full’digital’economy and “deir” economic agendas bit more neatly, i.e. how all that will drop sooner than we expect if we keep tilting blind!

must remind You all, be clever Dont Panic if “dei” push all instantly towards such full digital economic reality, but focus how to decimate its cost-benefit and risk management along exposing “deir” particle physics fallacies!!!

would “dei” push till end such inertia for full’digital’economy by any and all means!?, we are warned such event will happen in future, i.e. those that will not have specific mark will be neither able to buy or sell, but will that be tied to digital kind of mark as eligibility for digital trading, hm, cant say for granted, coz in Orthodox Christianity there is completely different approach for explaining that revelation [1][1] tho again in a way the same is tied to some possibility that will push Man in one or another eschatological stream, yet probably that is not the case, coz first needs to happen various tribulations then after emergence of the false prophet and just then after all to bow in front of that abomination of desolation creature!, we know that that will be some among the man, but also we know that the same will have specific image of given beast, thus we are speaking about total hijack by demons-anathema-to-them, what logically could happen through transhumanism also, altho it could happen as well due to shear apostasy!, and all that will happen but that now that that will happen hm, not sure, yet I am aware that now is laid the ground for that same future, and Blessed are those that keep their Mind towards Salvation and Watchfulness not to be peddled, but paranoia is not useful event, especially not coz the same is result of lack of Faith and Patience and/or plentitude of Fear and Disorientation, in my case also, i.e. I am not clear that “dei” cant peddle us towards some neopagan skims through full’digital’economy and digital i.d., while in same time we are more tempted to fell in apostasy by regular consumeristic corporatists or capitalist skims, when for the love of money and hooked on its idolization (mammonism) many are ready to embrace evil ways, thus in effect choosing side!

  • and while waiting someone among the Faithfull to warn about any eventual risks from full’digital’economy and digital i.d., I dont have doubt that “dei” are pushing specific agenda and the very same is luciferian one!!!, will “dei” succeed to roll it, that depends from various factors, among which our naive and reckless mindset not to debate as societies in time about any eventual risks from full’digital’economy and digital i.d.!!!, tho its understandable why noone from the academia or politicians is willing to do so!, and only fringe geopolitical jugglers will jump in with CAUTION hype … now, how soon is now, hm, “dei” need such digitalization reality not coz “dei” cant survive without it, but in my opinion so would continue playing Christians even by greater (digital) margin!, rest assure we will be played hard!, and only (secure or final) way out from that trap is being patient and wait all “deir” ordo’ab’chao scenarios to faint!, tho so we would survive the same, we need to focus in/to huge personal if not joint collective Agrarian feats, as sooner so as better … I mean if we succeed to break free from “deir” traps, that dont means that in despair “dei” will not pull total ordo’ab’chao card, which eventually later directly or indirectly will influence such marking reality!

this throws us in need to chase and find safe exit from “deir” beast systems, and what is guaranteed if we are selfsufficient!, but are we!?, maybe some logic about will be found in the AFT explorations of mine past interactions of Q&A sessions with g.a.i. tho cant say for whom what means self’sufficiency personally or collectively!, crtl+f > Econom or ordo’ab’chao in the next links [2] what would be also useful adjunct to the previous post tagged link logicism … so prepare for various scenarios, i.e. Hope that the most ok will unravel, but also expect as well that also can drop the most unbelievable!, yep I dont find logic about, but there is huge blown till ceiling logicism!, from top of my head, first most wrong side effect eg. exhausted pharmacy and medicine, and due to it wide panic, along “deir” (or alike) problem-solution bloom from all sides, Thus Be Watchful, and in time foster to reach if not else useful knowhow how by natural means could be cushioned whatever scarcity of big’pharma’jokes to which You all got hooked and/or from which are dependent!!!

the problem with marking is willing acceptance of some system, i.e. the beast is the state power, what is logical by JayD analysis about similar earlier in history appearances of antichrists [1][1] thus not all will accept such reality, aside that so the same would survive it needs to hijack Orthodox Christianity and that as we speak its not case, thus its survival as future beast system alone depends by my logic not from digital money but analog acceptance, i.e. how we as citizens would be ready to embrace whatever contract is given to us!, the risks tho are from various nature, i.e. personal hijack can come in various ways drop by drop, as is pointed by g.a.i. through various emf shock&awe of combinations that should deprive our free will from effective awareness eg. 5g 6g 7g radiation along led light entrainment plus by subliminal projections secured passivization if not hijack!, so eventually drop by drop we ourselves can astray in apostasy even without any full’digital’economy tho the same is guess needed so any eventual awakening would be easily detected and silenced, animatrix come to mind, which tho eventually as is kind of showcase how such future can end up, in same time is one nice except fine predictive programing, that needs to smooth out any resistance of man’machine’merger by cultural means [2][2][2-3] why at all we would be afraid from homo’silicone’hype “dei” will project in “deir” scifi agitprop, as if we must follow “deir” utopian agendas or perish, as if “deir” apotheosis is ultimate omnipotent idea that will bring heaven’on’earth for all ready to embrace it, as if “dei” are gods that we should be afraid from if dont follow, as if without “dem” we are sentenced on perdition, even need to be ready “dei” to tweak our heads and souls to fit “deir” mold [3][[u]3[u]]

and just like that we are ready to follow “deir” great reset, isnt, the plandemix didnt secure the same, tho ordo’ab’chao scenarios after should, but coz the ukrainian spin didnt flush, now the middle eastern “dei” hope would, whatever is needed so “dei” would introduce “deir” n’w’o that through “natural” political or economic meltdown would secure the masses for follow up [4][5] the question is why “dei” are so certain that “deir” tech is so powerful!?, “dei” really got confused if not overestimated “deir” true power, practically an program longing to become programmer!, in which movie that is case [6][6][6] hellraiser for granted i.e. demons-anathema-to-them seek to deprive us from salvation coz “dei” eventually fall due to “deir” lust to become gods!, almost impossible “dei” to be “dei” in totality, i.e. those that pull the string behind the scenes in the euroatlantic realm to be demons-anathema-to-them!?, and lets assume that is not case, then nothing scary, but what if that is exactly the case!?, eg. euroatlantic elites hijacked enmasse to work out “deir” agenda, logical, no, factual, yes!, I mean who are freemasons and to whom “dei” bow [6[6]][6] to what looks maybe kind inviting “deir” future shock for someone [7] but defacto is skim against which JFK did oppose [8] the question is would maga be tall enough to become like his gama, yep Pray for and Miracles do happen [8] altho people usually are willing to chase d’evil along river [9] instead to clean the river from it [10] what by all means as Christians we are doing it exactly through Prayers instead throwing rocks!!!, simply if someone now as Christian can step on the tail of “deir” utopianism in birth as full’digital’economy inertia towards, that is exactly DonaldT, so dont waste time and push him in Awakening Mode i.e. Pray for him to be delivered from “deir” grip, eg. Our Almighty Lord Jesus Christ be Merciful to all evangelicals in usA especially the leaders that are under hijack by luciferians!, dont forget dispensionalism per’se is not kabbalist infiltration in protestant Christianity, but luciferian one [11][11-3][11] probably is known the skim of albert’pike&co, the letters to mazzini [12][12] thus how more easily that to be stirred than through manufactured reality about rapture alike spins and the need for Christians to provoke the second coming!?, finally the skims are in plain sight but spinned in such way that its hard to tell who exactly how is pushing what mids “deir” euroatlantic cauldron as factions, tho its undeniable “dei” chase similar if not same utopian eschatology!, not sure would “dei” still sell debt cancelation by trickery [13] or the trick will cancel the debt by nft digital clearing!?

now regards the latest clearing of “deirs”, in context of Q-Day Huston We Have A Problem, and the evaporation of my ontopic post [1][1] I need to put emphasis on eventual risk management of “deirs” and why that will be case!, i.e. “deir” inertia is driven by specific antichristian spirit, tho not coz “dei” can impose it upon us, but coz our blind acceptance as result of our lust “dei” as neopagan bancorp euroatlantic cartel to fuel our desire for progress through “deir” indebting, an secularization of our will and like that exposure to various risks as Christendom!!!

  • per’se “dei” are Lost’in’Space [2-6] but that dont means “dei” are spineless tho currently smileless for sure [2] where now probably from ego and not pride will move “deir” will to power [2][2][2-15] thus logical move would be coercive hiving probably by ordo’ab’chao means!?, for what only assurance would be prophecies so we would be clear and fine [3][3] yet that would be bit irresponsible from my side coz could easily predetermine inertia towards some outcome, altho I am aware I cant change anything regards such causality, coz simply “dei” are what “dei” are, and as neopagans probably will never back off from “deir” utopian agendas, if not else from fear that if “deir” skims are not peddled the same could peddle “dem” down, isnt!?, yep in “deir” mind “dei” know only for such power till ubermenschen principle even seen by nihilist eyes, tho I really hope some less nihilist interpretation of “deir” neoplatonism would emerge [4][5][5-18][6] and due to such awakening we all to reach some balance as modern civilization instead path of noreturn eg. the grieve consequences of the next 6th footnote causality …

… yeah hope can never evaporate, even “someone” by trickery pushed all in delirium for a while, when as Mankind we need instantly to raise in Prayerful Feats instead delusional fears, so “deir” demons-anathema-to-them to be restrained expelled and anihilated by Our Almighty Lord Jesus Christ coz its up to our free will indeed while in same we did lost enmasse Grace how we’ve quietly follow “deir” covert transhumanist & technocratic agendas eg. tempting the Youth that its normal to choose sodomah&gomorah as by elitist kgbt blueprint granted right tho first by excessive psyop nlp’ed in their Young Minds as modern choice that catapult them towards free joyful and progressive future, what became norm on west even on academic level some say [5][5] probably so later by molded graceless broilers would be secured such by design elitist systemic fuse for cultural control of the kgbt narrative and its further flush down the education drainage, tho we know the same skim is choking even western military as “deir” cursed agenda etc. etc. power echelons from politics till economy, i.e. debauchery became mark for the western realm [5-1] what would be secured path even towards greater apostasy [6] altho what sounds as too generalized condemnation coz it cant be quantified, but as probability how all are keeping quiet its inertia that will exponentially rise till such apostasy levels that eventually will provoke Our Almighty Lord Wrath to be released upon all of us as indifferent regards that temptations of “deirs” which we accept it without any at least personal conscientious objection but exactly keep quiet so would not anyhow stir wrong superstitious maybe debt burden, how to explain such circumstances dont know, i.e. Christians to accept sodomah&gomorah by default so would be eligible for smoother grants or indebting in “deir” bancorp cauldron, hypocrisy, no, co-conspiracy, yes, tho ask Yourself to which peril!?

wow I didnt knew that insider trading was finally legalized in usA, yeah its not, but as I could see Whitney Webb throws such claim, tho something that always was normal as under the table swap for ussA plutocrats and the stooges of the 1% ea-determinists, which as plutocrats or stooges illiterate for financial casino roulettes would be rewarded by such fast boom or if not obedient bust!, cant imagine there is no safe way so such skims to be covered, and probably or usually pop up on the public radar coz given blackmail or revenge, (hm eg. as omnipopular cook Martha Steward refused to popularize gmo or printed food and got slapped, etc. alike from sleeve brought examples so would make my claim, altho far from certain or factual example thus dont make fuzz why finally I’ll throw uncertain shells in some context [10][10] which actually should trigger critical thinking for the rest ultraspeculative info in this post) … almost as by default this kind of speculation would fall in regular believed or not logic, but it do sounds probable if we know that “dei” will seek to exploit every possible hijack&blackmail option to future out DonaldT in “deir” cauldron!, So would it be wild speculation if we assume that like this now “someone” hit the sweet spot of DonaldT&co [1][1] altho think that that “someone” in case of DonaldT logically would be usaf [2][2-2][2-1] so logically usaf is pushing now whatever future technocratic hype [3][3] but yeah as was JFK betrayed by military so is DonaldT, the question is who in usaf is “deir” main stooge now [4][4][5]

hm I didnt ever bother to check whether McN as ford buddie (or his relatives) were somehow earlier connected to the gehlen corps in cia usaf dia, but it looks as weak link for JFK in case knew what dullith&co as bankcorp stooges would welcome as “betrayal” hype to “deir” n’w’o agendas or whatever comes from “deir” menu!, hm, g.a.i. brought some interesting logic that eventually even “dei” doped JFK, or even throwing curses, or playing him from all sides ~ stil due to his back injury “dei” couldnt hijack and sway him till full’obedient’plutocrat, tho I’ll also add as I aware he personally didnt have direct lucrative boost, at least not as we can see in earlier or later presidents in usA, altho his dad JoeK did bow in front of city’of’london thus in play was far greater skim than lucrative net, even greater than regular bancorp stooges can catch ~ check the links in posts #82 and #87 in DTT kennedy’s thread [6][6][6] yet his Sons surprised all, foremost coz JFK and RFK as pick from start were not polished for that position, while their deceased older brother should had have been pushed by JoeK, and just then after these naughty boys raised as Devoted Catholics by their mom expressed unobedience to c’o’l&co after what “dei” made example from them!, now, DonaldT cant be compared in his 2nd term as mirror to JFK, but if he check up “deir” a.i. maybe usaf stuff could convince him not to put blind faith in “deir” assurance sidekicking him from all sides, simply he embraced “deir” science as pivot for progress of usA and along by such sweet spot “dei” can play him from all sides, even his close one, hm, didnt Melania welcome recently robot officially as first white house machine guest!?, hm, how many onofficial drop there as cyborgs can anyone guess … JoeB comes to mind!

(I’ll went extra offtopic in this paragraph ahead, so if want to respond to it, Please do quote it and open new thread about, so we would not choke this ontopic OnEconomy thread) now, why this past paragraph above matters, simply so I would point more heavy to the causality fact that when referring to some current events now, i.e. always have in mind past causality, especially when narratives shift and factions realign!, eg. who would say that even nazis were after modern asraely state in Palestine in “deir” own time [7][7] or that there was some 6 mil number before the world wars, what sounds like kind of mass sacrifice, something that as info is completely new for me, probably neatly suppressed when appear earlier thus hard to be cached, similarly to the quiet suppression of the teuton’yulian’theory [8][8] or the hype that hitler was british stooge [9-3] who would say the bombing on London then was genuine and how indeed v2 rockets couldnt be navigated in swarm to ever hit at least one royal palace of “deirs”, not sure how city’of’london was affected, but surely hitler went rogue and turn to “its” puppet masters once made direct link to some demon and start imediatelly to hallucinate regards the mapping of the frontlines etc. alike swayed by angels mind, so “dei” decided to remove “him”, and that indeed enraged him, hm, why “dei” didnt use some ss aid by witchcraft line, how he escaped “deir” influence unless the teuton faction is indeed above “deir” freemasonic (rosicrucian) witchcraft!?, hm, now what bothers me, is why evangelicals cant flip “deir” lead in usA, maybe some bionics is shared in time thus all potential saving valves for DonaldT lowered in their graceful potential, what has logic how since ever was infiltrated by “dem” protestantism, and on top its word for direct link acceptance of Grace, i.e. could pastors help DonaldT if he joke around them or mock them through his kabbalist buddies!?, what about Melania as catholic, hey, even she couldnt keep him quiet regards his rants around the pope!, something fishy maybe is beneath his skin, can someone guess for what kind of biotech is word, maybe some from zeta’reticuli :slight_smile: shared on the usaf menu [10-2][10] jokes aside, but is there any elitist’power’clan made to which his father Fred Trump made some allegiance!?, maybe some causality in such context finally hooked him to “dem”!?, wild guess can go till mindboggling claims for which probably even DonaldT will have nothing against [11] how he built up personality cult as populist and wonnabe empire builder, or better said building founding fathers alike stamina, hm, so would secure his business, if not for his clan some long political elitism ahead, maybe for Ivanka as successor and later Jr as continuation, hm, doable, no, or if and only if he remove “dem” all for good, what tho cant be assumed even as scifi a.i. scenario how smoothly is played up this mandate as framed with ease plutocrat, i.e. if earlier he was peddled by DoD when took the warpspeed bait with ease, this framing with the iranian war passed even easier, altho we should not forget that he indeed gave extra resistance in his first mandate and reset many of “deir” skims from acta and ttip [12] till Syria and Afghanistan, etc. etc. positions that were fix for “dem” but he instantly swept the same out!!! and practically, whatever entrance “dei” have under his skin, eventually the same it could be weeded out easily as I’ve pointed if citizens of usA start Praying for him as their president, maybe by some popular means [13-4] for his family and coworkers too, coz after all as citizens they will feel too the consequences of whatever wrong or evil that would come from “deir” hijack of him as president of usA!, can we speculate that even his dna is affected [14][15] hek maybe patched by xenobots too [16][16-1] simply he went openly and publicly after draining “deir” swamp, so by all means “dei” would have seek to make example from him, isnt!?, hm, the same could be said for DavidW, i.e. that after became too greater risk for “deir” alien’psyop’narrative and potential whistler (so would secure safety) he was beforehand silenced, coz in question is too big to fail skim!?, hm, surely even his thoughts and not just wires were monitored if by any means David was part of “deir” alien’psyop’agendas, altho it could be as well that he was classical cia stooge that now just served gaslighting purpose coz whatever need i.e. he worked out with half truths as “deir” asset, just by the book [17] while the bulk of his info was skewed [18][18] to what some say GigiYounG is also similar case [19] so if “deir” own (lets say) pawns are removed by rude ways, then what about whatever “deir” opponents, from which respect after the failed assassination attempt couldnt remove DonaldT but hijacked him anyhow “dei” could, yet that anyhow it could also be reverted anyhow too, but asks as I am pointing in the 12th footnote focus and greater sos vortex …

while piling suitable counterculture videos for the last post playlist in the RSE thread [1] run over few interesting older and new videos [2][2][2] that havent or cant remember I’ve saw it, and altho per’se these are not about economy, still are touching upon some core strings behind it as past or future pull, wonder why the recent fuzz with legalization of psychedelics [3][3] that looks also like kind of agitprop gaslighting, tho along diverting Christians in huge pitfall coz easier systemic hijack as checked psi’broiler’later through Your closest personal a.i. psychiatrist, yeah IoB somma delivered by m’rna greeting directly dozen in Your brain [3][3] eventually at least kind of systemic psychodelic spin through which if can “dei” would push’all’asleep so would pull even more easily “deir” full’digital’economy great’reset’hijack or whatever “dei” need … hm, are You still dropping in wtf this Pelister is hallucinating, or its already obvious that now “dei” dont waste time anymore for pushing by various spins&skims “deir” agendas, eg. Lost’In’Space a.i. psycho boost maybe [4-5]

ctrl+f > economy in the next video transcript also, its kind of small but important suggestions coz predermined smoothly the need for pass towards full digital economy of “deir” as Fox label it as “DoomsDay Cult” that is “dopamine addiction where you get you’re so upset you know you’re so worried and it’s kind of like exciting” what as quackademics and plutocrat puppets like that being with ease driven by “deir” master eurotalantic determinist which yeah chase “deir” apotheosis hype, i.e. whatever is done is done towards that momentum where “dei” are fooled to end up and pull whoever “dei” can in oblivion!, hm, there are eg. many Orthodox Christians that refuse to accept the reality that there is such apotheosis skim, while even they are not aware that are called for Theosis, what about the rest which even further are far away from the purity and the essence of True Orthodox Christianity, so dont blame noone, and if can help be clever how giving hand to others is most useful … hm, how some that has open hearth even lust for transhumanism ideals would be awakened for the risks from all trials&errors till whatever safe bionics ring the bell, or maybe they are willing to be guinea pigs for “deir” apotheosis lusts!?, hek, even “dei” brought some inertia ahead towards “deir” deistic ideals, still that will be such painful molesting and grimoire reality that its question whether someone will at all enjoy such emergence in whatever form, oh, forgot “dei” would with smile claim we are not mengele alike, and thats why “deir” last plandemix vaxing wasnt widest coercive and largest covert genetic&bionic invivo transhumanist experiment which appeared in the known history of ours, when even without any technocracy and scientific dictatorship in place but mids democracy through neatly layed agitprop many got fooled to accept “deir” skim!

edit: the second 2nd footnote link needed repair, so here I am, and not that its word for some extra important video, but I find interesting that Richard Grove appearance decade ago … that video led me to another interesting link i.e. about PaulGH who led the ECA bureau that distributed the funds for the marshal plan in europe after ww2 [5] and while searching him did find some interesting link about cultural marxism that I find interesting as ideological globalist meme [6] than eventual political zionist skim as is portrayed in that find, where You can ctrl+f > Paul G. Hoffman [6][6] hm, someone could say zionists are globalists through “deir” pax’universalis but defacto “dei” are just freemasonic stooges and nothing else, subordinate by default [7]

just if we’ve listened to all that transhumanist frying in the tagged video above, just then when entering this thread we’ve be reminded later that the recent global Economy is always tied to “someones” motives for better future society, and when that someone is lets say known occult 300 bancorp dinosaurs, tho the numbers can vary [1-5][1] and clones multiplying [1][1] (tho pawns in hands of dragon alike puppet masters), just then we can recognize that there are driving motives behind the scenes!, altho motives that per’se are not main when some agenda is revealed, eg. A’21 or A’30 etc. alike along all its narratives [2][2][2] but just then we can see (or at least recognize the countures) that that driving force is Transhumanism (Ubermenschen) [3][3][3] so so so once You are aware what is the background then You will always easily navigate around the roots of the problem, and recognizing with ease “deir” gmo solutions, and/or what kind of effects will bring the same when some economic push is evident or economic side effects imminent!, lets say always the driving ideology behind some economy is the one that dictates all logical or illogical for the observer events, kind of aha moment without which whatever happens is fogged by lets wait and see what will happen, while when clarity hits the bells and demonic fog of transhumanists evaporated, eh then we can more than easily chase solutions for “deir” by default dystopian proletarian wonnabe solar colonization broiler societies where prime motor for existentialism would be the agenda to be selected most useful and beautiful eugenic gineapigs of future ubermenschen!, I mean for a moment we would all say nah “such” monstrous mengele alike dinosaurs are relics and there is no such emergence among the infamous 1% among “deir” dragonfly globalism, but defacto are, and dejure “dei” are occult neopagan deists thus by default seeing all of us as disposable broilers which existence means sacrifice towards greater superman future, tho “deir” x-man hype is “deir”, i.e. even at best we could be just guineapigs while “dei” waiting for the most stable patch version series of drugs and/or tools&mechanics that will make “dem” and “deir” offspring as 1% rulers of/in this world, yeah gods’of’euroatlanticism which coz now got bit in panic, why the eastern bloc dont follow anymore in bulk the same ubermenschen mantra, simply coz of that “dei” indeed got afraid that as inheritance will loose the long planned utopian new’atlantis’inertia thus making obvious mistakes, along due to speed dissonance clear revelations of “deir” true stamina, what in effect even more is awakening the masses under “deir” modern exploitation euroatlantic joke, and what even more exponentially raised such causality i.e. “deir” error <> Our Wakefulness pace, when what is for us dopamine kick as revelation for “dem” is craving panic due to eventual later scarcity i.e. “deir” deep subconsciousness fear of eventual flipped reality where “deir” mighty 1% will end up under the feet of the future antieuroatlantic revolution, as ideological children of the chaos (the french revolution) that is “deir” imbued existential fear that the three of liberty from time to time should be watered, simply wanted or not “dei” as euroatlantic elites now see whatever momentum or emergence of sanity > as wonnabe revolution against “deir” fixed positions in “deir” fixed utopian agendas now and ahead > i.e. what means potential wonnabe loosing of “deir” might power and wealth if “dei” dont push till extremes, isnt!?, eg. if needed securing of “deir” agendas, “dei” dont see why ordo’ab’chao should be seen as problematic approach, yep horrible for us but necessary by “deir” standards for “dem” option!, hm, and how that would be evaded then, would be the next question, what cant be anyhow explained unless indeed we dont awake for the fact that “dei” are stringed by dragons-anathema-to-them, thus the need we to focus attacking ‘dier’ power, logically by the Might Of Our Almighty Lord i.e. Orthodox Christian Prayers and Chanting (so get Inchurched) i.e. Jesus Christ as Our Almighty Lord respects Our Free Will thus if or not we would use His Help its solely up to Us alone, simply it will be by the measure of our repentance from everything “dei” convinced us that is normal and necessary so we would thrive eg. decadence now [4-13] or eugenics later [5][5] i.e. the logical problem solution dialectics of the rosicrucian neopagans that couldnt anyhow by other means to peddle us as Christians so through few centuries will come till total submission to “deir” utopian agendas, eschatology that tho was helped by vatican, yet its hype that was storming our reality as from above so as bellow in the central and western european realm for few centuries [6][6-12][6] … (as could be seen by this first 6th footnote about teuton and julians suggestion link as northern and southern european waring factions (above&bellow but joint) the rest links are evaporated, so when and if come across such dead footnotes do try revoke them through archive,is or archive,or eg. [1][1] which tho also nice feats in OnEducation thread [1][1] around the History of Transhumanist Thought for chasing x-man alike hype tho in this case by medieval lobotomy of children, “deir” schools for “deir” broilers, i.e. powder them since smallest legs and by pavlov reflex logic they will all jump up “we want all ur damned utopia!”, idiocracy, no, neopagan stupidity, yes!)

while posting on other topic about DavidW tragedy, run on some interesting classic meme about dollar going cheap due to others chips, fear usually kicked by chinese bond bag [1][1] but this time an japanese skim was on horizon, is that indeed case!?, if so how soon till usA occupy Japan, maybe colonizing japanese brains!?, jokes aside, this looks indeed as someone is pushing the global economy in collapse by various designs so day after would instantly introduce problem solution full’digital’economy!?

~ https://forum.gizadeathstar.com/t/those-missing-scientists-and-dr-john-brandenburgs-post/27466/18

the response of paTryots in usA then would be maybe necessary as clone wacking gaslighting, eg. the true DavidW now enjoying pool parties somewhere on Bahamas, yet many promptly defocused from raising panic till oblivion!, who would tell!?, tho I cant claim this is case!, but I am curries who was enough bold to encourage Japan on such move, maybe some city’of’london hyena or jackal!?,

now, could whatever skims be cushioned by euroatlantic’bacorp’cabal easily by various financial instruments, surely [2][2][2-8] under assumption “dei” want to cushion the global economy, but what if “dei” want to pull financial ordo’ab’chao so would secure as response full’digital’economy!?, so people, do get ready, by/as whatever insurance or reinsurance for Agrarian knowhow … or for future social’credit’system of “deirs” when/where coz economic existentialism if forced many will accept given social’engineering’trends which knowing that “does” who lead the game are transhumanists eugenicist malthusians etc. euroatlantic utopians menas huge risk for Christians which should be leveled by shear libertarian means from place to place in case global’economic’collapse happens, coz for sure many will embrace such exit strategy coz with or without manufactured reality towards many citizens due their wrong addiction habits will shtf instantly and many also as response will by themselves cry out for such social’credit’conditioning solution [3][3][3][4][4-4][5][6][7] fintech lobotomy for all ages cultures and ambitions, just do it, and total recall awaits You in the new solar system mining colonies!, how else colonialism 6.0 would emerge, be supportive, or else!?

  • should we repeat few footnotes from two quotes, yes we should … the first one pointing why sudden cbdc tilting [1-1][1-6] i.e. the google’panic’room regards encryption in this first footnote …
  • while, this quote below, is the one from the centered link in the previous post, tho which need reemphasis, simply coz I've run on some strange haiku interpretation [2]

this last footnote its exactly wtf, is this possible, especially problematic if we have in mind given causality [3][3][3] i.e. would city’of’london allow such kick, history proves otherwise [3][3][3] thus in context some recent earthquakes we can speculate messages are already sent!?, if we assume such are regularly used for conditioning obedience of Japan [4-2] aside that if cia could plunder japanese grabs earlier [5] why would not now japanese interest!?, since ever “dei” are playing all on “deir” casino floor [6] so why we would not assume that Japan will not be played too, maybe turning on them army of sharks from another dimension, northkorean spin comes to mind also as probable fear mongering tool, while for blackmail maybe would be used some virus fearporn [4] after all all modern zombie predictive programing around resident’evil goes with japanese umbrella, isnt!?

reCently posting on the reCent chinese techno hype, I was aware China has leading pace in the hardware realm [1] but I didn expected that this is case with the A.I. innovation and market share [2] and what to say, how this next video sounds, I dont know to what would put first and to what extra emphasis, simply its wow, is this at all possible!?, yeah going by wrong or faulty physics what else we can expect to unravel, yep the grrrrr causality catch up the speculative mayo [3][3] then why such hype in usA for a.i. investment that could make havoc in the bull market, except, yeah pentagon needs it, so its worth the risk, but what makes it even worst ponzi than the nft hype if the video bellow is correct [4][5] especially knowing the innovation model in usA goes through private incentives on universities, that day after are rolled like private startups, so all involved would have extra profit, and like that even more motivated to push the innovation spirit, yeah, but that as well could be boost for corruption or laziness, even intentionally hidden bolts, so further bonuses from the state would follow, thus faulty materialistic approach, than its eastern imperial counterparts where the motivation for innovation stems from idealism like patriotism instead lust for personal gain!, and thats why example usA is lagging behind Russia in case of heavy weapons innovation, or bringing faulty raptors etc. etc., while in case of China simply lost the small tech or clean tech race, now coming thus as the next video claims we are close to a.i.bubble, along all by magnitude for who knows which reasons boosted data centers!, hm, usually avoid to post centered videos, but this one is huh, I really didnt expect such alarm … altho to this risk alert, the western response can come only in form of hoop hoop hooray chinese are also in own risk spiral [6] forgetting that ccp can instantly order extra inseminations of half population if needed, tho probably it reasons in term of future waves of southern migrants mids whatever next global great economic depression, eventually hooked to irrational urban growth by some long planning spin, hek why would throw fishes in desert if there was no idea!?

so, finally, would (now) usA respond with useful risk management like revelations around Aether Field Theory, among other so would give boost to the lazy and hazy market expectations, or even for that will wait on China [7] or at all who asks usA, knowing that city’of’london is the ultimate boss on west!?, edit: tho usA can intervene, so if tariffs and trade deals can be driven by DonaldT, then so as revelation of exotic tech too, otherwise western a.i. hype indeed looks like house of cards in context of the current cost benefit models [8][8]