Can HAARP experiments do greater good or greater evil?

[pelagon]

one might say “they” are aware about the fiasco with one century old mainstream astrophysics [1] thus know what “they” are doing ~ eg. coz playing with “their” ufos for a long time [2] are aware how to manipulate plasma thus know also what are doing with their haarp alike tech, yet the recent malfunction of “their” jwst is proving that that is not case [3] one would say its impossible such waste if “they” were aware about the flawed particle physics model and approached from electromagnetic universe perspective too thus would anticipate the risks, yet by the jwst malfunction obviously that was not case!

except if there is need to hide that einstein fiasco (what are 10 billions for “them”) coz various of reasons and let the mainstream scientist further to chase that same nonexistent rabbit eg. risks on the citizen belief in “their” scientificism as most progressive vibe in this world which now as such is utmost needed coz belief in “their” next technocratic system waiting to jump out from “their” euroatlantic deterministic menu, actually as modern alchemists “their” whole exceptionalism rests on the assurance of “their” unflawed empiric stamina on all levels, yet when the same rests on flawed model like that of enstein&co logically all derived astro and plasma physics will be wrong …

… hek just how much money is spent till now on physics and physicists that were wrong till bone So if by any chance “they” would reveal that particle physics is wrong that would be ultimate risk for whole of “their” science methods and laws to be questioned and by domino effect all “their” exceptionalism to burst as bubble, name it chemistry biology mathematics even economy could get revision momentum, so “they” are keeping any challenging hype down so the flock would follow even the long imbued mainstream phantasmagories, the problem is that its 21 and not 19 century so “their” vacuumed fog cant be sold like popsicle! not that i negate in bulk whole science but defacto “their” exceptionalism dont leaves place even for debate, yes there are many improvements on all level of technology since the industrial revolution but that is engineering knowhow and per’se not fundamental understanding of all reality but derived perfection by trial&error, what on small scale lets say is understandable as acceptable (aside all unethical measuring when experiments involves biology) but when the same is employed as such on global level the risks from disastrous debacle coz technical and colateral errors are exceeding any reasonable acceptance of “their” lusts for ultimate control and harnessing of forces like aether but through “their” flawed physics!

[pelagon]

can haarp alike tech be used for ionizing our atmosphere till level of silverscreen for whatever projecting purposes, think yes. check the 4th footnotes and those after till the 9th so would catch this logic … disclaimer: I am not devoted researcher on this topic So dont take me as some authority, simply trying to grasp the possibilities by fractal reasoning through all available info on net, is the same possible doable and true for that time will tell how much of my assumptions are real …

anyway in context of the previous post I’ll add ~ “they” will fool us till “they” need until “they” can logically till “their” empire dont collapse, its simple propaganda is “their” main tool and simply with too many fraud in place what else “they” can do but gaslight all 24/7 [1][1] and “they” will exploit it till can especially when “their” long term utopian agenda is in question i.e. the wrong neopagan ideal for superhumanity achieved by “their” exceptional scientific mindset [2][2][2] after all the conditioning with superman and x-man movies its hard now to stop, altho the alien hype will go along so as much as possible would accept “their” narrative coz reaching safe “heaven’on’earth” as “they” hope, but wrong science brings wrong utopia for granted, probably thats why brainwashing by all means is “their” only safe solution for “them” now, the question is how will stage “their” skim, hm, can the sky be turned in plasma monitor, guess depends on the charge!?

I just cant grasp for what would use blue beam alike projections fear&submission or fun&acceptance of “their” technocracy in birth [3][3] in a way ionizing projections are possible i.e. “Lasers Ionize Mid-Air Molecules to Make Moving Holograms” [4][4][5] but this is just commercial effort to bring such possibilities to the market, altho there is no mainstream media hype, while we will be for sure not informed how advanced projection tech “they” have in the military labs [6][6][6] and if “they” use such spin the question is could starlink or will the next google bulk of satellites be used for wide projection mapping on the sky? still so the consistency of the projection to get real probably would need some focusing ahead [7][8] homosillicone is now not some transhumanist paranoia so who knows maybe soon in the m’rna boosters such nanopatches will hit the eye ~ sorry for my projecting like this but its fact that now only by trickery “they” can pull “their” great’reset wheter through fear or fun. altho for fun think lost the momentum … hek how technology is ff’ed in hedonistic treadmill context I really would not be surprised to see projected holograms in our heads [9] and altho one could hope that tech is and will be used for good defacto the most advanced as usual is used for submission control and manipulation normally by default when in hands of neopagan elites ruling above Christians what else could good come from that than greater evil skims!?

[pelagon]

maybe I sound as proponent of the electromagnetic cosmology how I’ve started to point to it, yet I cant claim that I am anyhow insightful of it i.e. anyhow ontopic researcher, just know particle physics has huge problem while indeed exist alternative cosmologies, and as observer I can just wonder why such exceptionalism among current mainstreamers, what by inertia puts me instantly in opposition mode i.e. while millions are even now starving the bulk of wrong science is throwing billions in bin while chasing free energy example by wrong basis and methodologies!

maybe “some” are aware and probably are that all of “their” approach is postulated on wrong alchemic basis, yet not just from fear that “their” exceptionalism will crumble but also from fear how “they” would control the masses the current wrong if not fake narrative is kept in place, as morgan stressed to tesla if I cant put meter on it whats the use of your invention [1] here probably we need to have in mind that the bank’corp cartel as jekyl island monster seeking to put lid on all through private fed were resonate in one voice through morgans head, guess if there was agenda how to control all through “their” monetary black magic that also popped up one to control the science world thus invested extra funds in whatever “they” could just to be suppressed teslas inertia, altho in same time normally tried to get what is in his head, keeping his knowhow for times when “their” inherited freemasonic dream would reach crescendo as superhumanity through eugenics and technocracy through controlled scientific dictatorship, and thats why we have still in place such wrong science as mainstream authority, aside the fact that from the very first moment as neopagan enlightenment momentum was put in wrong esoteric shoes!

in essence parallel to the wrong mainstreamers hypes, probably through the military groups were tasked in covert blackop teams to work with different physics models so whatever would come out from those would be kept in vault for future when will be secured “their” current system from any potential popular risks who could overthrow easily “their” plutocrats if are not indebted or have spare time on their hands, so “they’ve” pushed hard to get everybody occupied by various means while pushing for “their” neopagan new’atlantis blueprint, almost seen as joint enlightenment goal of all euroatlantic neopagans culminating now when is obvious “they” cant manipulate whole world as “they” were doing it one century ago!

now what “they” can reveal from “their” military labs so would impose further exceptional authority as elites its really question, but seeing how defunkt are “their” transhumanist jabs coerced without mercy even for newborns that gives hope that “they” will fail to stay in power, if cant jab all of us why expect will control all of us, and even whole world to be thrown in homosilicone reality again that will not bring nor superhumanity nor heaven’on’earth but only misery, the problem is that they are willing to bargain coz are certain that ahead we are cornered as by anthropological and political so as by natural cataclysms thus dont even care what will happen now with us solely from reductionist stand point, while from esoteric neopagan inheritance there is not small majority among “them” that lust for total’reset and bringing new’atlantis as risen phoenix from “their” ashes, just cant understand that after few failed attempts in the past century for reaching such n’w’o why “they” are so stubborn and expect that in world bound to causality that “they” can bring equilibrium anyhow, simply waste of time energy and will, yet elites without plan cant have meaning in “their” life thus thats why we see such stupid determinism, what a dumb momentum to expect that coz bionic&genetic revolution “they” and those ready to become lab rats for “them” would get smarter now, no tilting on wrong science will just make all even dumber indeed leading to idiocracy if anyhow “they” bring “their” utopian dreams alive, but havent already done that with this system and “their” bots of plutocrats!? if JoeB is epitome of “their” philosopher king then good luck! what I know tho is that “their” utopia will not last long enough even to be felt as way of life, for what we are warned in The Bible Revelation as comforting message not to chase future miraculous fake one love ecumenical christianity and the false-prophet-anathema-to-him that probably will steer it the same from behind and on the scenes!

[pelagon]

while posting disclaimer about mine scientific stamina in the thread jwst [1] used Roger Spurr ideas as lever for my logic, and must say regarding his atomic theory that he has point around the frequency as locking mechanism for stable bond [2] that in effect can be keept or disrupted by ionizing tech i.e. the point about frequency weapon used on the twin towers in 9/11 to vaporize them as is suggested in the last 6th footnote docu in post #16 above, tho the same could be used for good too eg. healing as is suggested by the “quantum medicine” mistaken label actually for electrotherapy [3][3][3][3][3] think the problem with label quantum arose due to the need explain this effects by merging them with the current wrong mainstream physics, even scalarwaves come in line like this when someone tries to put some theory [4]

yeah experiments never enough, as I am pointing in post #3 above there could be risks like this with oxidized water, the question is why scientists cant focus at least in this medical context probably not all are on big’pharma’payroll and its chemical balance [5][6] misconception of healing!? and if this dont becomes case then trial&error or better said trial$error will be norm also for this potentially unique approach of healing, but how when “someone” rushing to depop us til golden billion [6][6][6] are “they” willing to risk our health to be so easily reparable, yeah risks to “their” medicine as control mechanism even when alone CBD is in question [7][7][7]

I have never really experimented with plants and how potent can get, altho possible know how could be reached from good vibe and animals [8][8][8] while about wrong frequencies can be found logic in wifi side effects [9] in a way we are so polluted by bad vibe from “their” standards&tech that now we needed just ionizing elf/vlf radiation so would rest assure that oblivion follows how “they” play “their” haarp!

[pelagon]

when I am close to the electrotherapy … its interesting that there are earlier reports about Neutralizing Venom Poison With Electricity in the body [1][1][1] (was that last study published by dr. Roger Guderian) yet as could be seen somehow they are disappearing from net, and subtilty are debunked [2] altho one cant escape the feeling that in the same field intentionally is suppressed any research even private [3] long story short if we can brake poison by electricity then surely haarp alike targeting and 5g or 6g tomorrow in quiet way are disrupting our organism, yet we dont know how quick in which circumstances!

… sadly but even md’s can do evil in this way eg. earlier electroshocks misused by psychiatrists for lobotomization [4] and one can just speculate when science is in neopagan hands till which extremes can be used wrongly, still for now greater unknown is why electrotherapy is suspended field of research around the world except in Russia, but its obvious in the euroatlantic realm the public health is not goal but the public patients means for profit and like that medicine far from reachable, hm maybe better if we know what kind of generic molesting is prescribed as response! hm probably if alchemist didnt experiment with chemicals in pharmacology electrotherapy would have greater chance [5] yet again its question how darwin&co would apply it for eugenics!? anyway shamely at the end of the past and predominantly in this century we can see in Russia there is trend in this medical field tho if big’pharma get crippled by the next rigged economic collapse maybe we will see rise of research, altho one cant be certain how now all those vaxed with graphene oxide will react to this kind of therapy [6][6][6] actually the bloodclots are due to wifi or eventually any emf exposure of those that are vaxed … at least we know it could be disposed by l-gluthation [7] hm was GO released so we would stay dependent on big’pharma even after “their great’reset” cant argue didnt existed such variable in “their” eugenic labs!

Dr. Konstantin Korotkov: GDV Bioelectrography - XX years of development

[pelagon]

if there is such effective way for removing toxins the question is why is not extensively researched, and only viable answer would be even if it was simply coz the globalist need for population control its thrown adacta so longevity wouldnt be obstacle to “their” ideal for golden’billion’earhlings that with effective toxin removal as tech [1] is far from reachable, on contrary we would get more and more healthy and as consequence more and more multiplying …

@pelagon

[6] and if “they” use such spin

this docu indeed raises eyebrows in context of this thread, was used elf weapon on the twin towers to vaporize them, was ua’93 flight downed and melted as well, or was pentagon fuselage also buzzed, the question is from above or beneath coz the strange roof damage!? also on 1h37m in the docu the witness has interesting observation …

~

… all of that aligning with the next video from RogerS about sprites …

The Case for Reality pt3 Strange lights investigated

here we can speculate just whether such weapons can be initialized from above or bellow, from bellow would be as pressure to faults or loosening bonds of particular minerals and gases in the earth eg. the first footnote logic above, tho when we are in dark regarding this plasma physics we can just guess like this trying to grasp whats happening and what are the risks …

~

… more interesting point is that “their” trials and errors lasts all over the world for a while, and one thing is when is experimented with ships planes cars etc. but another with cities, about what I have some strange suspicion that started with 1963 Skopye Earthquake …

@pelagon

[3] ~ in this last footnoted video that is footage from '63 Skopye Earthquake which somehow think is the first victim of ionizing haarp alike weapons that could be resembled by few details like 1. unbearable heat that morning (typical for places whit similar manmade shock) also 2. emergence of seismic s-waves but also 1. the timing of operability of the first such base in usA 3. but nonetheless the following reconstruction by euroatlantic funds as never before or after seen international “solidarity” with whatever city stricken by earthquake in the world [4]

was this just accidental collateral or some showcase for the new ally tito, maybe greeting not to seat on two chairs after turned to west, eventually ussR retaliation for his stubbornness to withdraw from politburo, but if soviets targeted Skopye surely Kennedy would arrived first on the place instead Khrushchev … but what is more strange is that even nowadays Macedonia was coerced on nato submission by force integrated through rigged plutocratic selfdenial [2] once victim always victim, or. yes but causality rulz in this world and surely sooner or later will fireback to “their” intentional or unintentional skims!

[pelagon]

in 50 years timespan normally this tech would reach various applications, with certain possibility to be used in mind’manipulation psyop too, my belief is that in the wake of forcible name change of Macedonia as country we were cooled down as citizens resistance exactly with this kind of tech but exercised on grander scale i.e. as riot control weapons function on narrow group in this case was applied wider radiation for lowering down mass will for resistance through demonstrations, almost unbelievable how just few took out on streets to protest that forcible canceling of our Sovereignty by local globalist stooges coz nato integration, if other nation would be even attempted to be suspended like that on small door without referendum for sure unrests would tear apart the country even 50/50 were the citizens about the issue, yet here the majority was against such lobotomy but the same eventually passed on without any huge citizens protests, at least we are example that “they” have means to cool out any protest momentum where have or want to put “their” colonizing nato flag!

probably till now mastered various applications of this tech, as ionizing weapon or conditioning vibe, I just have doubts whether dimensional gaps can be done altho potential analogy through philadelphia alike experiments exists, the question is whether there is huge momentum as in the space race earlier, what its quietly existing on west for quite some time [1][1] while on east just recently we are seeing some signs [2] at least there is no particular bulk of eastern evidence …

the problem is that as citizens we are not informed for what this is used experimentally or practically, also how safe or how useful is to experiment with the ionosphere and atmosphere, and in such clarity to be enacted some limiting if not banning un resolution against haarp alike tech, tho how un is in globalist hands normally the same would be tweaked to be easily braked and in the end its question if at all someone will respect it or how can be forced to! but think the main problem towards eventual such goal is mainstream particle physics and the need to be rewritten so the same could be reached otherwise who can prove that the experiments are dangerous!? handy towards such momentum could be ideas as those of dr. RogerS hm his has many [3] but without whole academia to jump in demystify mode and accept that physics was wrongly skewed since einstein&co onward defacto we will not reach anywhere and left mengele alike minds to experiment with all of us without any liability!

[pelagon]

not that I am prone to revolutionary vibe anyhow on contrary I think nowadays the same can be easily misused as spin [1] so per’se I am not implying that the canceling of Macedonia as name needed to be opposed by burning down the pentagon assembly house, but knowing how we were denied as nation for two centuries and persisted that pressures now so easily in half year to be canceled coz nato integration wow that cant be storyline even for comic! but is good warning that all of You individually or collectively are next on “their” suspension menu while “they” rush to complete “their” n’w’o agenda!

yet here pops up one peculiar question, if “they” can use this tech for cooling then certainly can use it to for igniting anger and that is known as narrowed to individuals buzzing them coz whatever reason mostly experimental or dissident one, but what if with the same are trained plutocrats on blind servitude or Patriots to loosen or burst!? simply we are at mercy of “their” will and as consequence causally if this world is hit by disastrous solar storm or asteroid surely that is the reason So “their” wrong mindset would be removed promptly!

also emp frying of “their” elf bases could be case if ww3 reach hot phase, and probably thats why there is backdoor safety agenda for 5g infrastructure which as local and widespread can easily reemerge day after and through it at least population to be controlled by push’of’button, dont need to explain the possibilities or!? are there elf bases in cities nowadays? if so that would be wrong target mark of “their” own population! but are “they” at all tied to any nation or as euroatlantic neopagan determinist elites just hold as hostage all western Christendom, think yes!

[Bahri]

I don’t even have a concept of who these “they” people are, who are they?

[pelagon]

if You were part of americorps as foreigner (as You say) that gives good answer why havent heard who are “they”, watch not to end up like a.i. bot if its not too late anyway probably many similar guests on the forum will have issue with who are “they” so maybe these next footnotes will give suitable answer [1][1]

if by chance someone wants to narrow the scope on “their” owned plutocrats as deePState [2] it should know that all are tied in one dark bubble [2] thus its not useful to search among “them” and “their” stooges someone to judge but try attack the true’puppet’masters-anathema-to-them what ultimately is doable by Prayerful Focus … [3]

• the risks from not getting now Inchurched and like that leaving “them” more and more free space to act are beyond food control as lever for stirring rigged economic crisis [4][4] per’se as always in time like these spiritual reasons are always prime pivot altho hidden far beyond the scenes!

[Bahri]

Who is a “foreigner” is relative, but I was born in america.

I’d guess you are talking about the Martians, are they the “they”?

[pelagon]

whats the point with the spamming, open new thread, starting offtopic chitchat from one assertion is wrong thing! anyway I’ll throw another answer so this would not be waste of post! hm its fine with me You can call “them” if You like martians, tho there is good projection for “them” in independence’day through the vaporizing weapon (9/11 indeed just without nuke and cloaked ionosphere ship) [1] that could had have been even more ontopic if was added to the ships “their” ancestors phoenician swastika which wrongly “their” nephews thought is aryan [2] altho I am not sure from which neolithic culture “they” took that ornamental motive which later sailed around the world [2]

~

@Bahri

I can’t tell what your reason in posting here is, if you prefer that no one responds to you why don’t you just turn off your internet and write with a pen and paper?

look keep ontopic and everything is fine, I’ve spend whole thread earlier to point why the fakebook alike chitchat is illogical for eforum debate, dont prove the exception, or maybe as “their” bot like this chase bonus, what else to think!? share some idea support or debunk some ontopic claim just leave the chitchat for soc.nets

[Bahri]

I can’t tell what your reason in posting here is, if you prefer that no one responds to you why don’t you just turn off your internet and write with a pen and paper?

[Bahri]

@pelagon

look keep ontopic and everything is fine, I’ve spend whole thread earlier to point why the fakebook alike chitchat is illogical for eforum debate, dont prove the exception, or maybe as “their” bot like this chase bonus, what else to think!? share some idea support or debunk some ontopic claim just leave the chitchat for soc.nets

Ok I don’t mean to be disrupting any conversations by posting random off topic nonsense or anything, it’s just difficult for me to understand what you are talking about. Thanks for posting all this, I don’t usually click links but if there is stuff you want to talk about I can try to answer any questions you may have.

My understanding about Mars is that the most recent civilization there was taken over and destroyed by a.i. beings, and I hope to prevent that from happening again here on Earth.

[pelagon]

if You dont follow the links probably is hard to understand what I imply eg. how to grasp what are sprites if there wasnt for the RogerS video etc. so its better to avoid the thread till dont get some courage and look into the proposed footnotes that are the most compelling as argument to my assertions altho many times I am linking mine older posts where are shared other footnotes so will need to have patience, really its difficult again and again to repost all links so I am taking the liberty to use some older footnoted posts too so would make point supported by some source simply coz I am nor expert nor anyhow authority on top in topic that is still mystery for all of us, including the mainstream science!

not that You cant digress but do that creatively eg. try find some ontopic point to for debate and inbetween throw some digression to juice up the reading yes we are not in classroom so yes we can loosen a bit, but to throw the threads completely off rails that is hm at best defocusing spin! when evoked the a.i. mars suggestion I must admit You sound to me as a.i. bot

tho it has some aetheral greeting even that! lets see, if “their” mainstream scientists are not on firm ground about the plasma physics and trial&error is still their main approach, then knowing how nowadays for models “they” not rarely rely on computers that are or can be additionally boosted by a.i. algorithms then what I can sense is machine went wrong scenario if its allowed a.i. formulas to be spewed from wrong mainstream physics chewing, for this ColonelZ posted good link today [1] and must admit this is scary how wrong it could get! hm maybe a.i. spit also “their” current m’rna agenda yeah as needed step towards complete screening of all of us so would share later better manageable social control solutions!? why not using it just for aicaramba stunts and leave it alone till we figure out why and where enistein&co got wrong! maybe if we see quantum physics just through electrons instead various particles maybe then more quickly we will exit the current relative loophole that q has with r [2] seeing entanglement possible only for electrons will bring if not else for start more clarity after all the same momentum is measurable! simplicity of electromagnetism bears way greater opportunities than the complexity of current partical physics …

[justawhoaman]

3-D Holographic Display Using Strontium Barium Niobate – Brutal Proof

Why not use HARRP to create holograms or effects made with electro/magnetic pulses?

[pelagon]

eventual spin can be used for psyop but only if all world empires have same agenda, and probably thats why the rush now is for holograms in the brain for what the nanobots in the m’rna jabs can also help, anyway how popped up BBBook as conspy concept in '94 [1] it could be said either someone was ultra inventive even back then or hopes were to high that quickly whole world will end up in n’w’o and by consistent projection all will be summoned on submission, but as we can see still west is alone regarding this projection altho the tech is getting more and more advanced two decades ahead [2][2][2]

and yes probably as psyop useful for warfare and consumerism, but to deceive all yep nanobots and graphene oxide could had have the potential for secured deception through elf waves too, I’ll not go offtopic to explain how this is possible [3][3] but this explains why such hysterical hype to jab us all instantly through “their” past failed plandemix, so useful as biotech not just for control but manipulation too!

but as always will be combined different tech - as above so as bellow like freemasons want to say [4][5] as suggested in 3rd footnotes tech that can I guess also involve m’rna cell printed drugs [6] and we dont have to have doubts that freemasons as neopagans lusting for few centuries to erase Christianity are wiling to go to such extremes so would reach “their” utopian dream for “heaven’on’earth” aside that for “them” sacrifice is seen the human blood, so be clever grasp who are “they” and whether “they” dont have grip on the current euroatantic system [6][6][6] who would say that pikes letters are not genuine [6] now when we are seeing whats unravelling in front of our eyes as genetic&bionic revolution ignited by great’reset agenda! can we hope “they” will step back hm can exposed wrong ideals allow itself to faint away or will try to plot till extremes So we cant rest loosely coz now “they” hit a wall!

[pelagon]

in the 3rd footnotes above is pointed to optogenetic and sonogenetic activation of proteins targeting specific neurons that can be achieved by laser and satellite beams or elf (haarp alike) waves, yet is not offered more understandable ontopic explanation but few studies just as pivot for further research, so think the next videos can get handy to all that still cant understand how is possible to be reached mind’manipulation by particular tech …

Sound Waves Give San Diego Neuroscientists Control Over Brain Cells

“Sono-optogenetics”: An ultrasound-mediated non-invasive optogenetic brain-computer interface

[pelagon]

another useful point for reemphasis would be that vlf/elf bases are decimated indeed 5g/6g microwave tech will be reserve substitute for any next panopticon, even for greater precision as street level network coz not sure that with elf or vlf can be reached such precise ultrasound propagation and scanning as with microwave [1][1] actually the second could be prime option if nanobots are already in place (logically dod darpa jabs) that when have braingate’cortical’modems in place for all citizen will not need to chase them around but just greet them eg. with fear or delirium if somehow are unfit for the system agendas!

the possibilities are endless (“they” think) if internet’of’bodies (euphemism for homosillicone transhumanism) is reached with the bionic&chimeric jabs, as noted previously by specific proteins the consistency of the projections probably will reach higher resolutions for the holodeck around and probably thats why all that gmo noodles must be secured by whatever means (droughts,failed’supply’chains,chemtrail’metal’poisoning etc. crop failures) in which place normally after rigged economic collapse will be shared the right cans (guess full of chimeric gmo proteins and bionic graphene’oxide nanobots) and thats why rural selfsufficiency matters! but what if for enforcing such agenda are used bionic delivery mosquitos and thats why elections matters!

Holography of Wi-fi Radiation

[Bill10558]

Wow, establishment of an inventory system would be mighty helpful to run the business of life on .