mandela effect here on GDS got few threads [1] and few mentions [1] but it can get few more so we would dedicate title in this category too, useful coz there is also mood for chase through philosophy [2] while I can just give assumptions coz in essence I havent anyhow dedicated nor will nor effort to explore it up until now, tho even now will not put extra effort coz dont have spear time at hand ahead, tho maybe others would join and expand it … but I can try to point to various directions as pivot for research … so, at the beginning I’ll give closest philosophical similarity to protagoras reality eg. about beliefs [3] but also how ‘someone’ by trickery can skew such reality eg. JFK case [4] when we would get at least false positive if not else, tho knowing that fraudalism is one of the core principles for ‘someone’ [5] then we can as well accept that in question is genuine protagoras example at play [3] what would be rigged mandela effect in question, as if all could not drop in fraud from one [5] or another side [5]
also we can speculate there are other types eg. like erased causality or reality due to intervention from above what would be metaphysical possibility due to pardoning of sins in Christianity, or eg. in our reality exist doubles of ourselves due to ‘someones’ attempt to hijack our reality, some will say clones [6-3] or body snatchers [6-1] even mirage for our eyes [6] eg. Angels could make appearance like that … not sure just whether the last footnoted video is not a.i. somehow the intonation and the moves look like editing, tho this raise good point that ahead or before knowing how a.i. is bit older tech than most of the people are aware [7-16] that it could be already used for manufacturing reality!, after all if the moon landing was faked in 60s [8] why not to assume that deep fakes werent at play even earlier, even live one!?, 9/11 comes to mind, tho there was used aerial holography also, maybe as chemitrailed aerosol silverscreen!?, coz at stake was need for mass houdini alike spin [9][9-7] that would trigger instant middle eastern geopolitical positioning by trickery, while all half to one million deaths of Iraqees from start to be labeled as collateral but without any guilt coz supposedly there was antiterrorist motive!, what would be fraudalism at its highest till now, and still kept under the rug, tho blue’book’project alike would be ultimate [9-6] tho for that would need to be at play first mass cortical modem hiving so whatever glitches popup would be removed easily from the brain hdd!, tho one good approach for reverting such spin is to make sketching storyboards like daily graphic diary that later would serve as reminder hint even all were lobotomized, simply coz noospheric memory cant be manipulated by digital means [10-3][10][10-10] tho when many will eg. forget You tomorrow dont expect that will get back easily [11] eg. as time goes by while we live in fast pace we are easily forgetting nowadays on the deceased, somehow as if there is extra burden on the bioresonance too except memories, at least I cant revoke smells as I could earlier … maybe some double of mine stole it, or annulled the flavor thus now its not recognizable among memories!?, hm, from other continent double to do such thing, haha maybe from another dimension!?, tho if such possibility is real, it is due to some astral or aetheric noospheric imprint, while now through hive mind tech to be transposed, and like that messing with own memories!?, wild guess would be also that through fakebook bioresonance such skim could be triggered!?, anyway not just storyboards that can serve as hint, but also hardcopy books too, thats why maybe ‘dei’ are trying libraries to become relic of the past [11] while digital books usual text format, tho for such stunt would need manufactured’ice’age so people would burn all their pages for good!?, but didnt anyone made book about NelsonM original death back then?, as I can remember I’ve also got hiccup when NelsonM appeared again, like hm didnt he died in prison earlier!, tho if anyhow such causality is erased from above then surely even the books will change!
now, from JPFs side except the proposed threads in the first footnote, I’ll add quote from question at WalterB open debate episode … [12] and after that earlier interview on the subject …
SH: I was told by somebody back in 1992 about the Mandela effect of course they did not call it that at that time um and at the time I did not believe this individual uh this individual made several claims to me uh that was just one of many um but over the years you know since the Mandela effect came about uh I reassessed what he told me um I have myself experienced the Mandela effect literally because I am one of those people who do remember uh Mandela dying in the early 1990s okay so Joseph does what about you Walter do you remember that
WB: specifically not you know Mandela’s death but absolutely as as I’ve discussed with both of you independently other events certainly okay
JPF: I remember Helen Thomas dying
SH: the big one for me was and I can’t remember whether it was before after I had the realization about Mandela uh and at the time let me say I didn’t think anybody else was uh having this memory uh it was only quite uh a few years later where I began to say oh they’re calling it The Mandela effect and everybody you know not everybody but you know large numbers of people were having this memory uh but I also had another one I have actually more memory about and that was the death of Rod McEwen
JPF: oh yeah you’re not the only one said okay I have a friend that has said the same thing about the same person
SH: okay so good company there my uh so my memory went like this uh we remember that uh Rock Hudson died of AIDS I I believe that was 1985 isn’t it wasn’t that 85 there I am and so it was just a little bit after that happened that uh on the news it was Rod McEwen had died and he had died of lung cancer and um I was surprised in this sense that I was always under the impression that he was gay and that you know if he died at early age maybe he died of AIDS like Rock Hudson did and that was my thought I said no he didn’t he died of lung cancer um and that was that and I assumed what Rod McEwen was dead for a long long time until I heard you know I can’t remember what year it was just a few years ago Rod McEwen has died and I said what no he died of lung cancer way back in the 1980s no he died of complications from pneumonia it’s interesting that it is still a lung illness this indicates something about the what we’re calling the Mandela effect is that it’s not capricious um there’s a pattern to the thing uh and so it has to do with the similarities of that that uh uh what’s happening is it’s a resonant it’s what I’m trying to get at you know it’s a resonant type of phenomenon in other words uh when the other event happens there’s some similarity involved there and this is you know what I’m referring to with the uh the time harmonics that I refer to uh that uh it’s analogical
JPF: yes
HS: and uh and it but it is uh you know in in sound harmonics you have the principle of the scale you know the do re mi scale of eight you know um it seems to me okay in what I’ve studied of the time harmonics is that the nine figures in very uh significantly that’s not to say that eight doesn’t figure into it as well but there seems to be this organizing principle of nine where the analogies fall with a structure of nine [13][13] um so you know I’ve read a lot of debunking about the Mandela effect um and it doesn’t hold water for me it reminds me very much of the UFO debunking uh the very heavy-handed stuff out of the 60s the swamp gas explanations people have been drinking you know anything they can pull out of the bag you know
WB: sesh would you say that people that are experiencing the Mandela effect are those who are sensing the that there has been a trans-temporal conflict or activity going on is that
HS: I think so where you’re because I think that there is an element of anxiety
WB: they’re sensing that these these timelines are shifting, Joseph what what do you think on The Who would know um or does know
JPF: no I I think I think you can you can narrow it down to certain types of groups uh I think that there are people within the more hierarchical ritualistic churches that know
WB: okay
JPF: I think there are definitely people in the field of finance and economics that know and I’m thinking particularly of people that view things in terms of long wave and I mean very long wave Cycles I think they know uh I think that there are people in the intelligence agencies particularly in those departments that are handling propaganda or you know let’s say let’s say the CIA has an operation Mockingbird Department if there’s a particular place in that particular agency that I would look for people like that to know something that would be the place
HS: Joseph do you think that CERN might be involved with this phenomenon
JPF: let me put it this way uh I have I have gone on record many times in interviews and in my website vid chats not only on what I think is happening with Mandela effect but with CERN and what my hypothesis has been is you’re dealing with a a macro experiment on group observer effect that is being conducted by these types of people and particularly in cern’s case I have I even wrote in my book The Third Way when I talk about CERN I’ve written that if you are experimenting with an accelerator that alone just one little aspect of it and and it’s not the only aspect I’m concerned with but let’s just pick one the enormous powerfully localized magnetic fields in that accelerator I mean they are far beyond the local magnetic field of the earth that you would experience anywhere on the planet they are far beyond them now what that means to me is you are going to upset the electrical cavity or you’re going to be able to affect the electrical cavity of the planet in some form or fashion through sheer resonance alone and through sheer resonance alone you might even be affecting via the coupling of the magnetosphere to that of the sun you might even be affecting the Sun
WB: wow
JPF: but as you are tinkering with the electrical cavity of the earth to such a degree you are also going to be running experiments on are there social or human behavioral correlations of statistical activity and please note the term statistical that correlate with this thing being turned on or at such and such a power and so on these are the types of experiments I think they have been secretly running in CERN and I do think that the Mandela effect is itself a mega experiment on what can we do can we observe actual physical system state changes if we Tinker with a timeline that has a massive group effect
HS: yes
JPF: and the answer is I think yes
HS: yes and I just add real briefly that the source I spoke to did give a picture that a lot of people knew about this already and uh so what Joseph said right on target uh that it is an Open Secret at the top and a lot of people …
WB: I would agree
HS: … on leadership positions know about it and the propaganda machine is in place to buffer the effect and to debunk it [12]
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this one I think I’ve heard it earlier, for granted [14] tho cant remember the exact explication, yet, I’ll add if protagora in antiquity was certain that such momentum is possible, then nowadays even more easier by bioresonant means, there should be just enough belief massage and many will follow with some manufactured reality!, didnt ‘dei’ convince many to swallow ‘deir’ experimental jabs as safe by blind belief in ‘deir’ rigged’peerreview’process coz given covert yet plain transhumanist&technocratic agenda of ‘deirs’ [15-2][15][15]
yeah till its not verified by some OC Elder I’ll never give even glimpse of credence … but even then I’ll seek to consult many other Elders …
