this thread is more for the Hmmm category here on GDS, but I’ll push it here in Philosophy coz huge amount of philosophical knowhow is derived in this way, actually many if not most of the political or ideological peers were driven in this way, if we can take for granted that as consumed by the lust for power or pride many indeed dind care how would secure it [1-3][1-1010] so lets see how correct is the claim in the title of this thread!
I’ll say most famous emergence, and not just in modern but all history that is known to us, while in same time that directly affected whole planet, were the Vril band of witches’ [2][2][2][3-3][3-2] to which only somehow compares the “white” witch VangyaG [4-4][4-5] or the clairvoyant EdgarC [5][5][5] but “deir” influence is far from direct influence on world processes, tho guess (its logical) political elites as in ussR so as in usA did use “deir” services, dont have to bring footnoted prove about, but dont ask twice if could wouldnt be tempted even nowadays such emergence to be consulted by the current elites!?
hm, is there indeed white vs black witchcraft!?, as is pointed through the example of VangyaG such medium by defualt is in hands of demons’anathema’to’them!, simply it take even little so someone would end up hijacked [6] what about someone to long for etheric or astral interaction!, on top that to drive his will and knowhow, hm, even elders in Orthodox Christianity will be always cautious when in contact with Angels even tho serve Our Almighty Lord Jesus Christ and by default are protected by Him, yet even with open spiritual eyes one can end up in delusion, i.e. prelest [7][7][7] and not that we cant be inspired by The Holy Spirit example, but the line is very thin as inexperienced to be hijacked whether coz pride whether coz selfesteem, simply every step of whatever astral share if tempted should be examined by a Spiritual Father and then after further by other Elders eg. in case of visions [8-4] its clearly said to us by The Holly Fathers know that even anathemago can appear to You as angel of glory while just by trickery twisting of the nous [9-4-10] again not that every alert should be taken as wrong but examine it with Your Spiritual Father, do carefully check this 8th footnoted thread on the gift of prophecy!
this sounds somehow wow, while in essence is quite fake demonology!, especially if we know who is basis for “deir” romantic teuton mantra i.e. the viennese GuidoVonList [1-5][1] what makes all the hype kind of clownish, still dont underestimate demons’anathema’to’them, in this case on top we are speaking for elitist european alchemical trendsetting that lasted for half millenia, that in this case was used for building utopian indoeuropean mythos that will fuel rise of the new’atlantean’age, actually what is interesting is that behind all that hype main driver was city’of’london, if we know who pushed ww1 behind the scenes [2][2][2] which logically later again did it with ww2 by financing nazis [3][3][3] strictly business some will say, nah, it looks like attempt to be reached ultimate control of whole world by city’of’london through corporation’zero’beic&co alike stooges, while in essence behind the scenes is utopian n’w’o strive [4][5-19] so knowing “who” is “deir” true’puppet’master then its not hard to grasp that we are witnessing indeed metaphysical harvest of souls [6] and as in The Bible Revelation is stated behold many calamities will follow … So, seen from such perspective, suddenly vrilerinnen along all nazi occult agencies, which “dei” didnt saw it as lodges or groups, but scientific institutes [7] sounds scarry demonic emergence, and oh werent “dei”!?, as machine, maybe one of the most deadly that existed in the known history, right behind the army’of’beic i.e. earlier financed by city’of’london global colonizator, kind as if “dei” transferred “deir” experience to “dem” for upgrade!, interesting day after while reforming again and again whats left from “deir” nazi hype, as sabeans did brought nato in similar neopagan artistic mood [7][7][7] so it wasnt just paperclip spin in question but also another new’colony’stooge inertia towards n’w’o as more slower&cunny globalization attempt of “deirs”, or better said “him” coz its word for sinister force, which feeds fuel and boost the very same agenda, which with nazis drop in fast&furious socialist mode!, and thats why as Christians we are constantly on various and shear attacks on every level, luckily it could be pointed to, and hope such points will provoke useful response in defense [8]
now, once we know that the pivot for all this is city’of’london its not hard all this through rosicrucians and templars to be chased around the medieval european realm, hek even right after the fall of the roman empire and the emergence of merovingians [9-4] yet to say germans got the most wierdo witches somehow sounds bit shallow, it simply got popularized through various stories and ufo hype around, but we cant be sure for granted for what kind of european’isis’muses was question earlier!, actually all of “dem” didnt fell in potent trance solely by meditation and summoning demons’anathema’to’dem but also by human sacrificing for which teutons mastered as claim some supposed franciscan monk [10][10] thus it can be logical why such potency, or why such mass’jewish’genocide!, what if to us looks like horror, for “dem” was just necessary possession gateway as neopagan occult n’w’o faction, actually all of “dem” are, just differ how “dei” execute “deir” sacrificing!, hm, wasnt the latest deadly vaxing such skim!?, or child bloodbath around the world recently with such spin, hek ultimate one is abortionism [11] but that alone without continual neopagan esoteric and occult strive from all european alchemical peers woudnt be case!, after all hermeticum appeared in venetia, while the first official alchemical university emerged in Pisa [12][12][12] so guess the alpine witches were not at all some epheremal emergence, altho in popular culture are not extra praised, coz usually have back vocal role, altho in my opinion crucial coz “dei” were direct link to demonic messages!,it could be said that such emergence was MadamB mids the italian revolution when probably as fresh graduate from the Rosicrucian’Basel’Box joined garibaldi&co probably fueling somehow the flow [13-6][14] but which is not rarely tied to the official alchemic nest around the Alps what would be the austrian occult hotspots like Prague, where by fraud emerged european alchemical rex RudolphII [15-2] which neopagan influence, later as causality through patronage brought to life name like Agrippa [15][15][15] which tho think was more like occult physicist, as LeonardoDV was occult engineer, or Nostradamus occult botanist, etc. alike from renaissance till enlightenment era european magoi, but for woman it was rarely left place to raise to status, even we would have not learnt about vrilerinnen if nazis didnt fall, while we all know about the visions of nostradamus!, actually there is one name that is trumpeted but which could be also falseflag [16] still very small drop that reached the public eye!, imagine RosaL prepared potent revolutionary tea [17] anyway, not that I care, but it somehow points that even nowadays woman are underestimated altho extra close through regular succubi interaction to the evil side [18][18][18] and somehow nowadays, if we try to make scan where falls the majority attention eg. of music idols, we will easily notice that that are woman, the question is which among those write own songs, and which like that can reach greater pull [19] practically modern spiritism is part of the music industry but guess as open occult vibe more bursts in the gaming industry [20-11] what push on further rise of witchcraft!, coz altho in music and movies it can be projected witchcraft theory and practice neatly [21][21] still through games it becomes personal experience, and in case the player is hooked to the game, its guaranteed deep unconscious nlp programming!, due to constant mind vibration of some magic spells, kind of life in a glass jar where Grace cant reach easily, hm, luckily are those that as Orthodox Christians from time to time will enter a Church or went to Liturgy …
hm, maybe sounds shallow the label “fake demonology” in the first sentence above, even as point about “deir” cheap neopagan norse syncretization of mythos, and not just coz GuidoVL but also MaxM narrative [1][1] practically whatever needed was piled in “deir” mantra of ubermenschen narrative, which gave mist of victorious stroll of societal sacrifice coz higher cause!, the very same stupid fakery that even nowadays in ukrainian trenches is used for self’meat’grinding motivation!
on other hand, as fake as it is from perspective of invented mythology, its also genuine empowered state of consciousness, guess in the beginning is such possession when consciously some medium is firing trance tongue states and/or divination techniques, but guess once the medium accepted to become host for given spiritual parasite, as in case of the witnessing of babaVangyaG she is exiting with soul from the body while demon enters in it and prophesize!, and logically coz it was “someones” selection process in question, interestingly appears just once in the first meeting some templar figure in now infamous “café schopenhauer” [2] then we can assume the most versed witches were brought in selection!?, to be even more scary the same potential is blooming even nowadays among many akashians [2]
further, chasing the fakery around the nezi mythos, which again was based on invented physic medium interpretations of given runic archeological findings, and those further by demons’anatema’to’them through greedy means projected to hijacked by default stupid mediums, stupid coz in the end demons’anathema’to’them steals the soul for eternity, it was built narrative that suited many to chase survival whether as occult healers that has some special story behind “deir” potions, whether as artists who needed mecenae for new musical adventures eg. Wagner [3][3][3] dont forget the time the context and who kept the vaults, eh, even nowadays billions are thrown on popular occult lore, or seers “demselves”, what about then when superstition was ace of a every famous medieval space, guess tarrot didnt became popular game from fun [4] thus the fakery is certain, but the problem remains the same even nowadays, coz “someone” continued to chase the very same new’atlantis’mythos as own utopian agenda, guess “who”!?
btw, if havent seen how it looks such scribing possession, here is one afghan magoi arrest by Taliban where the very same technique is exposed by the practitioner!, tho guess when in total trance mode that the messages are shared in far tremendous atmosphere, yeah clouds swirling around the pen hm dont ask for it [5][5][5] dont forget there are many in Your own vicinity, hek, when “dei” thrive in Islam, what about secular joints!?, yep, witchcraft is real deal, tho what happened in medieval europe with the inquisition, was geopolitix purge [6]
bit offtopic post, but for first time in context I’ve run again to this next c’o’l ww1 logic, the quote after this paragraph, just not sure how valid are the same as claim titles and names!, maybe someone can conform validity!, hm, only logic in context goes around the announcement of deir’great’reset by Charles earlier, along some hype around him [1-4][1] but again as black’nobility’band “dei” can have nowadays completely different hierarchy and/or position in city’of’london!, hek, if this is true, then why british royals earlier needed to wait 20 minute at the entrance of the city in every Magna Carta ceremony [2][2-4][2-333] what eventually was circumvented more recently on small door [2] yeah supposedly like that making claim of the city [2][2][2] tho we can never be surprised from “deir” stupid ceremonial theater in the londonian’dragons’nest [3][3][3] while the existence of the place predates all elites among londoners [4][5] said in context of templar hijack guess [6][6][6] in the end dont forget there was templar present at the thulean branching of vril circle, but how so thule society end up in Edinburg, hm, “On 9 May 1930 Dr Karl Hans Fuchs, a former member of the Thule Society - the occult/mystical group that flourished in Munich in the early 1920s and which was closely associated with the origins of the Nazi Party - visited Rosslyn Chapel. While visiting the Edinburgh Theosophical Society, Fuchs informed the members that he had been sent to Scotland.” [7] so forth and back, werent the same golden’dawn’aliceInWonderland rituals of mediuming present at vril, tho it dont needs to be wonder where emerged hellfireclub alike sex magic and sacrifice coz better empowerment!, so indeed the franciscan monk theory about factional alignment has logic [8] the problem as always would be how to grasp how so such black’nobility’elites had and have blood lust coz greater demonic possession [9][9-2][9-14] rolled either as ceremonial sacrifice of innocent children, or nowadays systemic as abortionism consequently institutional submission, topped by mass global wars alike even before ww1 [10][10] wonder what had have nostradamus mediuming with the severed heads of the queens children!?, somehow logical or [11][11][11] in essence many are not at all aware that such methaphysics at all exists, what about that “someone” is carefully puppeteered to execute it, probably coz stuck in mechanistic’cosmology’blindpost in his horizons between the known and unknown reality!
now, if this is true, then who is main royal seer in windsor, maybe some popular brit singer, is there competition who among similar will receive audience, or maybe the royal seer now is some a.i. oracle with cyborg stamina!?, anyway, I really wonder how so mi5 and mi6 headquarters were in city’of’london, were “dei”!?
somehow this bugs me always, i.e. how so woman are almost always seers, we can exclude nostradamus coz his visions are under influence of hallucinogenic plants, while plain mediuming goes under possession of demon, thus its bit strange why so woman are the regular witch, since pythia onwards, altho in delphy also were used hallucinogens!, hm, probably it has something to do with the menstrual cycle maybe, coz by spilling blood become more easily exposed for/to hijack, as g.a.i. summarize “in “deir” logic, the menstrual cycle is a peak time of rhythmic vulnerability” [1][1] but also the vigor of lusts in womans hearth are more present which in essence are food for demons’anathema’to’them, at least thats what Saint are claiming [2] while we can notice that that is case if we force ourselves on abstinence when we are becoming enraged i.e. seeing that fasting is eating the spiritual parasite, but till we reach effective fasting we need to boost it and support it by Prayers, simply coz eventually The Jesus Prayer is chasing demons away [3] what opens space for cleansing as of the Soul so as the Body, what essentially comes through The Sacred Mysteries Of Confession and Eucharist when tho I’ll add that even one thing to be hidden intentionally with knowledge whether from shame or fear then that very same hideway become open entrance for those demons we’ve expelled, after what usually from inexperience in the spiritual struggles even Saints as young monks knew to employ corporal selfpunish as defocusing or extreme fasting approach [4]
here is interesting excerpt from the transcript of Jay&JamieDyer talk about SATANIC AEON? aleister crowley, “the hidden god” & the new religion of the goddess
here is one strange example of exorcist, which as he claim started as self thought, but later says was welcomed to join and became ordained as exorcist priest in the anglican church, which altho sounds unbelievable knowing how woman became priests there, then why not layman to become exorcists!?, it sounds like spiritism gone wild among anglicans if so, especially coz this pall made tv show from his “job” [1][1] now the things he elaborates sounds very genuine as seen in by those with open spiritual eyes thus people do take him as credible [2] yet coz tv popsicle probably he got prepped what to say, and there is some debunking that he was officially part of the anglican church [3] which as well could be careful distancing coz his statements are outrageous in context of Christianity eg. claiming reincarnation is regular real deal [4] which not just that is not true but is very antichristian to state or even more embrace such beliefs, hek, then whats the use of Life in Feat, or fear from Final Judgement, why at all Jesus Christ would need to bought off our Salvation through His Sacrifice On The Cross, why not just stroll around and left booklet for deliverance!?, now, is such claim ultimate heresy so he couldnt help people just by using regular exorcist means, as he is presenting his bag [4] …
… hm why not, simply even You Yourself are not worthy anyhow as Christian but living like whatever wicked or idolatrous people, solely Yourself by embracing Jesu Christ as Savior and calling up His Name for deliverance through Prayer Chanting or even Graffiti indeed You will be helped, simply demons’anathema’to’them are burned down by the Name Of Our Almighty Lord Jesus Christ!, this is not just some witnessing that I’ve heard about, but my own experience in effect as regular daily practice as Daily Christian Prayer Rule or in need!, yet, living Orthodox Christian Life in Fullness [5-23] cant be compared to sporadic pull out from the shackles of anathemago!, still there are many popular exorcists in every place and every religion, lets say local shabans, here in balkans “deir” regular trait is to be surrounded by Icons in “deir” ordination, where most usual patients are people that have not at all clue how Christianity works, or are drawn by interest for seers’demonology and how instantly results are pulled, so, here we can say this is also case, on top hyped by tv shows, spiced with talk like “He claims he acknowledged his ability after realizing his imaginary friend was a ghost.” [6][6][6] which points he got tempted to follow demons’anathema’to’them till got versed experienced and useful spiritist i.e. psychic!, isnt …
… why I say this, simply to Angels is not allowed to contact us not even indirectly in dreams, what about directly in this realm [7] so, add to this that he became famous psychic somehow, and here we go marketing surely needs own poster’fun’boy [8] but, how tin is the line for him to end up delusional, or at grave danger heading towards oblivion, even worst to pull other souls with him!?, still, desparate people tend to hook to fancy plots, eg. the priest from dusk till dawn sounds like Yo karma brought him around [10][10] but that per’se is not always helpful even that was indeed case!, coz the authority for casting demons’anathema’to’them comes through righteousness along ordination, yet if someone is in apostasy as is the anglican church, where due to it even freemasonry got infiltrated [9][9][9] then whats the odds that we are witnessing effective demon slasher!?, tho this with infiltration of freemasonry can be seen everywhere [10][10] yet in Orthodox Christianity didnt appeared ecclesiological slips as was case with vatican or among protestants [11] so in the end, how in totality some evil is expelled, or better said, why cant be expelled, by this or that even regular Priest, what about some spiritist!?, as could be seen even catholic church is under massive demonic attack thus gay or paedo priesthood not rare occurrence [12][12][12] what about those to cast other demons and cant own!?, now go compare to it others like protestants which dropped even in greater astray from the True Orthodox Christianity and get well quick!, altho I’ll say OC myself, even here if some Faithful is not firmly focused on Salvation and eg. tend to sit on two chairs as inchurched along party eg. boy, not that will not clean his hearth, but even worst it will become far dreader than clown!!!, that dont means en’block he will be expelled from the Church as Community, but it needs to get sober and receive penance so would be delivered again and again, coz in essence whole our lives are bound to fall&rising up until we dont position ourselves in firm Prayerful Consecrated and Featful OC Life … here under OC should be seen tendency to live as much as possible with pure conciseness, following the Law but also to Forgive from Love even unforgivable things, thus with nonjudgemental hearth we indeed are coming as close as we can through Liturgies to Blissfully Blessed Posture that eventually will lead to higher Contemplation i.e. Logos Theoria [13][13] firmly secured soteriological posture through Divine Metanoia [14][14]
nice typo, yeah he convinced himself he has open spiritual eyes!, while self-taught would be if he took crash courses about the spiritual world that is basis for this one, and by learning from the experience of others he became experienced!, similarly myself trying to learn Orthodox Christian Ecclesiology not by reading books from Saints, but listening apologists like JayD on yt, so would learn something from something but in correct way, instead diving deep in mine pirouettes of discerning what exactly means what in that weightless heavy water!, stil crash courses that are plain knowhow about written public approved blessed by Saints words!, while in case of IanL it looks like he learnt from some anglican exorcists maybe, or books and interviews from such or similar exo’cobblers, some which eg. among the catholics did step up in public, which must say indeed sound catchy [1] the problem is that people can easily fell in trap imitating them, and probably IanL is such example, maybe his grandma was such local herbsman etc. alike causality that pushed him in such exorcist mode since smallest legs!?, but even he was “genuine” charismatic&wonderworker [2] once step out in public simply wanted or not from/coz pride eventually will loose whatever gift he has of such nature, i.e. expelling demons’anathema’to’them through authority of worthiness, so through the very same commercialization of his gift actually he is inventing own church, coz in True Christian Church we dont make show from the misery or hijacked position of others, while when that happens anyhow, that is work of anathemago!!!, but who is aware that, as we can see, there are not just healers, but also seers in modern western christianitY!, yeah woman priests, cmon [2] whats next pachaMzumba dancing ceremony for Christmas!?, vatican says why not [3-6][3-6][3]
anyway, regard learning from others, or chasing gifts through Prayers, indeed start searching apples and eventually You will find them, but that dont means then after You will become instantly knowledgeable how to prepare apple pie or juice or jam etc.!, tho must acknowledge there are indeed people that coz various reasons get open spiritual eyes, some say 1 on 10k has such gift, but hm in my opinion that would be more curse than blessing!, yeah go see how demons’anathema’to’them stroll around or enter and exit people or torment and manipulate them, or how attacks You, and at best You will end up in asylums, or worst drop dead after while if try to fight “dem” back by Your own, i.e. in such case, one against legions [4] while in essence it should be followed The Good Orthodox Christian Church Praxis and ask for deliverance through Consecrated Inchurched Life in Feat [5][5] coz in essence just through the Holy Mysteries comes deliverance, yet if we make the very same mistakes coz whatever trap the next level cleansing is harder and recovery longer even more if keep some filth in our hearts and didnt slash it through the Holy Mystery Of Confession, practically the illness, even more when pumped up in continuity through sin, will eventually lead to addiction, even tho we’ve approach regularly to Confession of sIns, simply whatever wrong we do as Faithful, especially that goes through pride and even more special case when is done against some in the Church, it will progress as illness even heavier than if we werent part of the Church and had have Spiritual Father [5][5] tho we are all rarely aware that even then, after got cleaned up, we are not closing all the doors that pull us yet another fall day after, one of those nowadays eg. fakebook, however useful it looks [6][6][6-111] simply its self-entrapping going carelessly mids vortex of liberalism and wide exposure along total tantalus alike entanglement among profiles and a.i. interlinking IoB tech!, the same could be said also for the public vortex of IanL, and its kind of strange how so those psychic walk free, while not having constant prayerful hearth, plus on top from pride commercialized their “job”!, simply they are not under demonic attack coz are in manipulative mode, and through them flushing in the world wrong temptations so people would seek help from underground seers healers herbsman etc. alike evil or at best superstitious traps for the soul!, tho lets say in this case, maybe he is not taking money thus like that harnessing extra graceful fencing, yet again baba Vangya is such example while in the end it became obvious by various clues she was not from God … actually there are many seers that use such “free’of’charge” skim as marketing bait that “dei” are blessed coz dont have fixed price or not charge for the services i.e. people should leave by own will how much they want, but that is fallacy by magnitude, coz even those seers were ascets like yogis in India eventually will score something and by obligation would tie the costumer to hang idle at disposal when needed, simply in the demonic realm (and those that hook to it) whatever comes from “dem” nothing goes free, finally the higher price is Your souls, so in one or another way You will be grinded if use “help” anyhow from seers!
probably it would be useful to note, that this exorcist case in question, is used more like example how its problematic everyone to rush upon exploiting whatever spiritual gifts he has, even less to commercialized them, yeah anathemago will surely ask for toll!, except if those exercising healing as Christians done that by Blessing as part of the Church, tho go grasp which Christian Church has the authority nowadays so You would seek secure cleansing of Your hearth, for what as more than useful apologetical direction can come from hand JayD coz divine help from Above comes in fullness when its passed by true cup, i.e. compare nowadays Christianity to musical analogy like Orthodoxy is traditional flow, while Chatolicism pop’remix of it (newish modernization), and Protestants would be something like turbofolk hype (futurist modernization), and not that Holly Spirit will not reach up those that twisted the true traditional flow, simply where are two or three in the Name Of Our Almighty Lord Jesus Christ there is Himself Jesus, yet if we speak about totality of Grace we need to rise up in totality of Orthodox Christianity, tho as we know even OC’s ourselves we are not without mistake eg. ethophyletism as nationalistic heresy that splashed us since the rush of enlightenment era and emergence of the luciferian concept nation that got all by suspenders mostly in the past century [7] yet here in question is solely outerfit error tho we are warned by Jesus and His Saints that even that deprives us from fullness of Graceful Potential, what about inner rewiring of the True Early Christian Ecclesiology that through the Early Church Councils reached firm consensus of soborian standardization [8-8-5] hm, maybe these digressions are not so important in context of this thread, yet knowing that many drawn to chase deliverance by wrong means, I really need to point Yo Wake Up and stop being manipulated by anathemago and “his” seers healers or ghostbusters [9] but turn to Orthodox Christianity if want to break free from “him”!, but, dont forget above all its Your free will to focus on Salvation what eventually will sharpen if You start interesting about catechesis for what with firm assurance I’ll suggest use it as pivot JayD [10] or Patristic Faith [10] and/or by Blessing from Your local parish OC Priest for some useful baptismal jumpstart literature like sayings of the Desert Fathers [10] eh its really smooth learning curve nowadays and fast climbing feat to focus on Salvation nowadays than eg.10 years ago, simply reading books its not ace for all, nor if read per’se will understand what is written, while in essence all that needs is correct interpretation of what Jesus Christ is witnessing through The Bible so the praxis would be more effective, what in essence sometimes can come solely in form of reminder or warning watch not to loosen and be pulled by whatever that is not coming from Jesus Christ … in such context I do find useful the protestant approach of videoart reminders, tho we should and can find will to explore the topic how and why such even interest about pagan or neopagan knowhow opens us for demonic hijacks and total enslavement which as next phase comes once we are becoming devotees fans or spectators of fallen’spirits’knowhow eg. like astrology, i.e. like that we are continuing eating the apple even in our fall!, but Dont Judge, and instead give a hand by Prayers to those in need!, also dont stumble in arguing with those that are tied up, its like trying to chisel their hearts by force what eventually will hurt them coz in question its free will, so yes do lay Your argument but dont argue about, when its better to Pray for clarity and wakefulness than trying to bring down a dam of ignorance, futile even in question are Your own brothers and/or sisters … hm, dreamcatchers here we come, hm hm hm, are such lucky eye amulets hooks for yourself or else!?
hm dont ask for it [