more elusive logic how possible mind control can be executed by elf waves is if supposedly is used bio-feadback as some claim like AndreaP did  (or use some mkultra knowhow of his  tho I would not put anyhow credence on him as niner  yet the term bio-feedback sounds similar to the soviet one “time-reversed death photons” pointed in the second 10th footnote at the end of this post) but stil this is not even close to holodeck simulacrum but eventually for pushing us from alpha till theta brainwaves (i.e. from trance till astral) turning people in sleepwalking zombies yeah that would need to boosted with prion side kick to become real zombies ’ (in this last archived transcript switch pryin with prion while pizza with piezzo ~ simply its utmost important info for those who rest their hope alone on nutritionism) yet such possibility is not effective even as weapon unless is introduced some genetic regionalization  yet as we know every current empire has own jabs but also gmo is forbidden in Russia while China has own, thus only eU or Japan can become collateral to eventual zombification by usA if anyhow show fierce unobediece, still even this is possible its more logical to be introduced by 5g/6g tech than elf/vlf one coz the second can be always jammed promptly!
now how goes the jamming of haarping, in the first 4th footnote HaraldKV points that the chernobyl woodpecker was jammed by asraelys  probably got the info on some conference where is mentioned as time’reversed’waves  yet knowing that since '60s usaf already had have elf/vlf tech  hm this Werner Altnickel assertion could be just public derailing of usaf guilt or maybe bragging how zionists since then have share in the game coz simply cant be found any other info on net about except possible bumps  so it looks like speculation, unless got “spied” blueprints from general electric for what would be normal assumption  through eventual british pipeline for what tho exist only later analogy …
... about the eventual british connection
… later analogy  or maybe if GE even earlier crossed in rockefellers hands (I’ll speculate since 1933 when moved officially its office in his center as statement of ownership, probably due to the banking diversification back then ’) I’ve listed these assumptions just to point how problematic would be anyone to allocate this kind of logic even more eg. in context of the last 9th footnote where also is shared suggestion that ea-determinists had have hit fukushima plant (altho plausible in context of geopolitical blackmail ) still what if was the case it would mean that “they” struck own boilers what would be bad marketing - tho opportunity too  I really need small font for these digressions!) maybe it could be that the fukushima plant was used as shield and just like the proposed case with chernobyl some wave to got cut out and burst back!?)
another speculation how eventually as tech could got in zionist hands earlier it could be through ussR i.e. once was standardized in ussR and coz zionists there in that time had have grip  first the same knowhow ended up in asraely hands and then after reaching usA (in reverse process probably the atomic bomb knowhow reached ussR) …
now the question is is’ that TR waving effective just as weapon or it could be used for mind manipulation, and here we can also just speculate having some earlier info from ussR  but somehow while seeing some bump about timetravel in context of the freemasonic agitprop or better said “their” projected wet dream for timetravel  guess some surely assume TRW it could be used for such trips too, to them hm potentially only one spammer response can give greater side kick  yet however this looks possible to someone still timetravel for me as Orthodox Christian is mere neopagan lust resting on the past clairvoyance reincarnation mediuming by the fallen-sperits-anathema-to-them, and not that is not possible but for sure will be forbidden by Our Almighty Lord Angels if we are aware that this world is our chance for Salvation thus cheating and avoiding Judgement with timetravel is lets say not allowable, let me be clear, if we need something to know that is that we are Creations thus as such cant escape our earlier fall from higher realm thus as such even it was possible timetravel it would not be allowed, unless its allowed from Above coz whatever reason to whomever, but to/for neopagans hm think not doable even by trickery, and indeed “they” have used only imaginative ways to do such stunts either in stories either in dreams, tho never stops to amuse me the passion to tilt in place  imagine someone can travel back and while in same time having at hand some haarpean toy click the dino asteroid would be now then we having trexs instead ea-determinists, dont have doubt slavs like NikolaT would know maybe followers too 
holidays are nearing So here is nice article about NikolaT ’ translation of some archived link  plus some info how was done  and when searched the names its obvious that the article is mix of various sources predominantly the japanase involvement  but it has also slip from ThierryM -----, interestingly on his site it could be seen few public slips by LeurenM and YoichiS guess someone needed to stir his info further  probably good shows for listening, but its strange how there is no further exploration on this japanese connection in the past decade, even less assumption that was similar event as chernobyl in question i.e. something or someone cutting out the radar vibe shielded by nuclear plant … in my opinion that was noone from the states but here it would be too small space to elaborate that plus to make sense that elaboration … I mean we are still thirsty for physical revelations about the mechanisms and mechanical workshops what about chasing metaphysical beforehand, I mean as public, military labs surely chase metaphysics too, anyway can someone share some thought how correct is David Guyatt reasoning about japanese russian connection in '90s, or is it word just for agitprop so people would be defocused from the rest prevalent agendas and producers!? some connects in that time the darpas mitre with haarp thus we can speculate about operative mind manipulation experiments that fired back through such pipe in Kobe, who knows, I can just speculate in this respect coz haarpen mind manipulation knowhow would even deeper buried in the mil.labs than the weapon use! ----- must apologize wrong grasp of the names it was no slip from ThierryM in the text (tho probably came handy those 18-20 footnotes and the assertions along) but it was word for Harry Mason in the second part of the original article  probably there are anexes to this  and  two part article on the forum of Deep Politics where as I can see David Guyatt is admin  tho dont have time now to search for, plus guess this kind of info it would be rare to be debated freely, even less as such to stay further alive on net, at least not as puzzleout big picture … and if anyone has good ontopic dotting site You are welcome to share it in this thread … what is interesting for contemplation regarding metaphysics is whether ancient people as spiritually awake had have potential for using resonant energies eg. for building megalithic structures, or it was word only for simple physics in question after all  maybe combination of both!?
I find this next info of DavidG as worthy for examination, predominantly about the control group in “their” experiments i.e. how indeed we are just statistics mids “their” agendas, tho its question whether here is word only for buzzing by non’leathal’weapons or mind manipulation too!?
During 1989 CNN aired a program on electromagnetic weapons and showed a U.S. government document that outlined a contingency plan to use EM weapons against “terrorists.” Prior to the show a DoD medical engineer sourced a story claiming that in the context of conditioning, microwaves and other modalities had regularly been used against Palestinians.